Valuev vs Haye, Over 100 lbs weight differrence. No way Haye can win right?

if hayes stamina in check i see this one goin UD to haye, he'll be fighting for his life in there tho ;D :boxing:

Chagaev has a more solid chn,defense and genral skills than Haye though. Ye that solid defense that we saw when he thought Vlad.

Chagaev is smaller than Haye and weighs a few lbs heavier, Chagaev beat Valuev, so why not Haye? Many reasons. Tactical discipline,gameplan,styles,etc. Not saying Valuev will win but it's not like that easy.

If Cotto is to big for Pac and PBF was to big for JMM Then certainly Valuev is to big for Haye. You be a fool to think Haye has a chance of beating someone 7 inches taller and 100 lbs bigger. :bsflag: Not wise wearing a turtles Hoodie there mate but I agree 100% lol. Valuev is so much heavier than Haye he can literally punch through his guard

Well he had 95 lbs on Holyfield, and 11 years. Honestly, I can't see any way that Haye loses this fight.

So if Cotto domoinates PAC, youll acredit it to Cotto skills being to much for PAC and not him being "to big" Yes I will. Whoever wins that fight is the better man, size has nothing to do with it. The size difference isn't that big. Whoever has the better skills wins this fight.

Chagaev is smaller than Haye and weighs a few lbs heavier, Chagaev beat Valuev, so why not Haye?

You can't compare the divisions. The main difference is in speed; PBF and (probably) Cotto were/are at no disadvantage due to size alone, although I think Pac is naturally faster than Cotto. Valuev, although his skills are underrated (he has good defense and a great jab), is sloooww.... you have to be when that size. For a HW, even a bulked-up Haye is unusually fast and to win he just has to do what Holyfield did, only using his superior speed to land more punches. If they have to be on Valuev's gut, that's fine. It should be comfortable unless he gets careless too often. Valuev is bound to wobble him at some stage, he needs to keep together enough to take to his heels long enough to recover. Haye by reasonably close UD. With the lil' guys, Pacquiao over Cotto as, stature or not, he is IMHO faster, more skillful and bangs pretty much as hard. Mayweather is simply a better fighter than JMM, size had little to do with it. He and Pacquiao are a class above all the rest; and I'd sell the cat and mortgage the wife for a ticket to see a fight between the two of them; legendary stuff. Thats my point. If size mattered as much as some try to make it, Valuev would be an ATG and the undisputed champ. Skills>Size. If cotto beats pac its not because he was bigger,its because he was the better fighter. Same with Pbf and JMM.

If Cotto is to big for Pac and PBF was to big for JMM Then certainly Valuev is to big for Haye. You be a fool to think Haye has a chance of beating someone 7 inches taller and 100 lbs bigger. You can't compare the divisions. The main difference is in speed; PBF and (probably) Cotto were/are at no disadvantage due to size alone, although I think Pac is naturally faster than Cotto. Valuev, although his skills are underrated (he has good defense and a great jab), is sloooww.... you have to be when that size. For a HW, even a bulked-up Haye is unusually fast and to win he just has to do what Holyfield did, only using his superior speed to land more punches. If they have to be on Valuev's gut, that's fine. It should be comfortable unless he gets careless too often. Valuev is bound to wobble him at some stage, he needs to keep together enough to take to his heels long enough to recover. Haye by reasonably close UD. With the lil' guys, Pacquiao over Cotto as, stature or not, he is IMHO faster, more skillful and bangs pretty much as hard. Mayweather is simply a better fighter than JMM, size had little to do with it. He and Pacquiao are a class above all the rest; and I'd sell the cat and mortgage the wife for a ticket to see a fight between the two of them; legendary stuff.

Cotto's skills and Mayweather's skills are way better than Valuev's. He doesn't use his reach and height and allows his oppenents to get inside on him. So if Cotto domoinates PAC, youll acredit it to Cotto skills being to much for PAC and not him being "to big"

Mayweather and Cotto are good fighters. Valuev sucks. Holyfield beat him, Haye will also if his chin holds up and he doesn't get caught with anything stupid.

I think Haye is just to fast for the Neanderthal.

:rofl: If Valuev clinches and leans into Haye, Haye better move to the side or something, because if Valuev trips and lands on him or something, God have mercy on him. The fight could very well be over right then and there. If i was Haye as soon as that big hair giant tried to lean on me i'd fall to the floor so that I'm not wasting energy holding his big hairy body up. If i was Wladimirs opponents I'd do the same thing because I notice Wlad likes to lean his weight on top of his opponents too.

Cotto's skills and Mayweather's skills are way better than Valuev's. He doesn't use his reach and height and allows his oppenents to get inside on him.

just like hatton was too big for pacquiao

A smaller weight difference to a smaller guy makes the same difference as a bigger weight difference to a bigger guy. They are naturally bigger so there frames can handle it more. so 5-10 at ww is = 50-100 at hw? Thats not correct.

Holyfield and Chageav already beat him.

Its amazing how 100 lbs difference means shit, But PBF whoops JMMs ass and I garuntee if Cotto wins its because "he was just to big" LOL A smaller weight difference to a smaller guy makes the same difference as a bigger weight difference to a bigger guy. They are naturally bigger so there frames can handle it more.

If Chagaev can beat Valuev then im more than confident of Haye doing the same. Chagaev has a more solid chn,defense and genral skills than Haye though.

Given a possible lack of stamina and a weak chin i really rate this fight 50-50 atm.. Valeuv leaning on someone is no joke.. :rofl: If Valuev clinches and leans into Haye, Haye better move to the side or something, because if Valuev trips and lands on him or something, God have mercy on him. The fight could very well be over right then and there.