That's correct. I don't get why people don't get the business side of this. Not that it matters. I just want to see them fight.
Exactly, It's dumb to say, "Pacquiao has done more, he deserves more". What you accomplish in the sport had ZERO to that with a split.
Pacquiao is a PPV success and he has beat Floyds common opponents much more impressively, not to mention he does much better at the gate.
While Mayweather vs Marquez failed to sell out, Pacquiao vs Cotto sold out in a matter of minutes.
Listen to the dude :lol1:
I'd like it to be 50/50 for floyd vs Manny
Pacquiao on paper has done a hell of a lot more to deserve the bigger check though, but 50/50 would do considering the amount of money they would both make.
You can't deserve more because you did more in the ring; doesn't work like that.
I see your point bro and yes no one should worry about how makes what
I think these type of debates though are good because it does educate the masses about how the business side is indeed ran.
In a perfect world we would have every dream matchup our heart desires but we don't so thats why debates like these are good
Well said!
of course it is but fans shouldnt care how much each fighter makes . Thats for fighters and promoters to debate about . It just really pisses me off when people say floyd/pac shouldnt fight unless they get x amount of dollars , %ppv sales etc. Talking about which fighter is the biggest draw .They should just hope the fight happens ... no more no less.
I see your point bro and yes no one should worry about how makes what
I think these type of debates though are good because it does educate the masses about how the business side is indeed ran.
In a perfect world we would have every dream matchup our heart desires but we don't so thats why debates like these are good
Pac still gotta beat Cotto. If he does, he's beaten Cotto, DLH, and Hatton, and won 3 division titles in the last 18 months. Mr boat buyer has beaten a LW at WW. Arum will demand a bigger cut for Pac, Mr boat buyer won't accept that or even 50-50. Watch this fight not happen.
Would Floyd have any leverage with Arum if the shoe were on the other foot?
In other words if it were Pacman who was doing bigger PPV numbers than Floyd, would Floyd be justified in asking for and receiving a 50/50 split?
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Floyd & Manny = 55/45 Floyd ... I think this gets the fight done.
Manny & Shane = 65/35 Manny
Floyd & Shane = 65/35 Floyd
Floyd & Cotto = 65/35 Floyd
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What does everyone else think?
I'd like it to be 50/50 for floyd vs Manny
Pacquiao on paper has done a hell of a lot more to deserve the bigger check though, but 50/50 would do considering the amount of money they would both make.
shouldn't but its reality and probably the biggest reason why certain fights do not get made
you guys want to have blinders on so be it but its a very real part of the sport we love
of course it is but fans shouldnt care how much each fighter makes . Thats for fighters and promoters to debate about . It just really pisses me off when people say floyd/pac shouldnt fight unless they get x amount of dollars , %ppv sales etc. Talking about which fighter is the biggest draw .They should just hope the fight happens ... no more no less.
fans shouldnt worry about the money
who gives a shit what the fighters make . As boxing fans we should want the fight to happen regarless . I couldnt give a shit if floyd and manny got nothing , just as long as they fought.
Of course they should, if the fight doesn't get made someone needs to take the blame. :lol1:
shouldn't but its reality and probably the biggest reason why certain fights do not get made
you guys want to have blinders on so be it but its a very real part of the sport we love
who gives a shit what the fighters make . As boxing fans we should want the fight to happen regarless . I couldnt give a shit if floyd and manny got nothing , just as long as they fought.
makes absolute sense, numbers-wise E but i highly doubt PAC will take 50 or less...he himself is a diva when it comes to negotiations
oh I know and its comical how angelic Manny is perceived and how villian like Floyd is when it comes to the same issues
numbers dont lie and with the two projections for the Cotto fight for Manny I think both numbers are fair considering Manny (for whatever reason) draws about 27% less people to his PPV and gets about the same numbers $$$wise at the gate
no way Floyd takes 50% if he has out PPVd Manny and held court in terms of sales of the gate
as crazy as it sounds I did the math on this based on PPV sales. Taking Floyd's last three PPVs (where he started becoming mainstream) and Manny's last two with an added 1 million buys for Cotto (to be fair) it went like
Manny vs:
DLH: 1.25M
Hatton: 850K
Cotto: ~1M
3.1 Million buys
Floyd vs.
DLH: 2.4
Hatton: 850k
JMM: 1M
= 4.25 millions buys
Manny does about 73% of Floyd's numbers
~58-42 Floyd
now take the live gate
Floyd:
DLH- 19M in sales
Hatton: ~10-12M so take middle and say 11M
JMM- 6.8
36.8M in live gate sales
Manny:
DLH: 17M
Hatton: 8.8M
Cotto: hmm should be sold out like Hatton Mayweather so lets say 11M
36.8M in projected live gate sales
50-50 in terms of live gate not the expected "Manny does so much better at the gate" that some are thinking
IMO with the numbers given
56-44 in Floyds favor seems fine