shane will be the fastest most powerful and just plain best fighter that floyd has ever fought
mosley has the potential to ktfo mayweather or anybody at ww... floyd knows that
I think Floyd knows a Mosley fight will be tough.
Ask yourself:
If Floyd wasn't absolutely sure that he could beat Shane, would he have chased a fight with him all this time? You guys say that Floyd is a cherry-picker. Well, Floyd sees something in Shane that makes PBF pretty confident that he would beat Shane.
Remember, Floyd first called Shane out when PBF was at 130, and SM was on his way to WW.
The second time was when PBF was on his way to 147, and Shane was in his Jose Cruz/ David Estrada era, and was suffering the post-steroid effects, and asked for tune-ups.
The third time was after the second Vargas fight.
Now, if Floyd is chasing a bigger guy like that, what does that tell you? Mayweather felt he could make a name off that guy. And that he would win.
It's amazing to me that so many of these bloggers are even wasting their time analyzing a fight that the great Mayweather obviously don't want to take. Right now, you can't make MW get in the ring with a proven fighter of Mosley's caliber. He will use all the excuses available to him to get out of taking that fight. Boxers know those who are serious threats to them. Boxers know what their vulnerablities are. MW knows SSM possess the speed to catch him, the power to hurt him, the ring intelligence to match him and the experience and physical strength to rough him up and make him use energies that he never had to use. Any intellegent boxing fan clearly understands that MW is not Margarito. Shane would have to use a whole different strategy in fighting a runner and counter-puncher like MW. But for those haters who are simply begrudging Shane for their boy MW, they know in their heart of hearts that Shane is clearly not washed-up and is fact the most serious threat to MW's protected undefeated record. It is unconsciousable that this guy has been allowed to get away with fighting the fighters he has faced in the last 6 years. How can anyone one continue to support someone who is obviously avoiding the most serious challanges to his perfect record. While I do admit I am an ardent SSM fan, I'm also objective in what he brings to the table in a potential match-up with MW. I see Shane having some difficulty finding MW over the first half of the fight. But be it known, Shane is not a blown-up feather weight fighting MW, he is a real, powerful and skilled champion. SSM would eventially catch MW with something real powerful and brutally get him layed out on the canvas or make his corner stop the fight between rounds. If this fight were to happen within a year SSM wins this one hands down--unless MW decide he's going to avoid contact all night and call it boxing. Until MW get's the intestinal fortitude to sign for the fight, all of his fans need to just be quite about how great he is. You are not great because you proclaim it. Boxing greatness is about utilizing your skills to beat the BEST fighters available skills.
If Floyd allows that guy to beat him, then FMJ should go back into retirement.
I'll have to admit that Mosley didn't look very good in that fight. He flickered his jab like he always did earlier in his career, but in the Margarito fight he got to throwing it the right way. The only thing that makes me think that Floyd would have an edge is the fact that Mosley sometimes gets in the habit of throwing wide punches.
equal size??
dawg he look way bigger then FRAUD BUMWEATHER in that post fight interview
they are both WWs aren't they? don't pull that "floyd's a small WW" bullshit! if he's a small WW he would've made 144 lbs.
Yes, that is exactly what I mean. And it is very easy to draw Shane into a brawl... even when that doesn't suit him.
yes, mosley isn't the smartest boxer, but mosley's physical attributes make up for that deficiency
Shane has never met a boxing strategy that he can execute.
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he don't need a plan, he just needs to outwork floyd.
Have you only seen Shanes fight with Margarito. Steriod Shane has looked like shit for years.
wtf? he only lost to winky (too big) and forrest (got his number)... I don't see floyd beating either of them either.
mosley got robbed in MSG.
mosley was outweighed by 20+ lbs against mayorga.
in other words, nothing---mosley has power--yes---mosley has speed-yes---mosley is stronger---maybe---as far as physical strength goes---but floyd is much sronger mentally and mosley fights stiff as shit and has always done so---floyd would school that clown....mosley closes his eyes a lot when he swings---floyd's best weapons are his eyes and would cunter shane to death and floyd throws much sharper punches tha shanhe has ever thrown---fighting like shane does will have him off balance against floyd all night--he's too stiff---striaght up and down--floyd beats shane in his prime and out of his prime---
equal size??
dawg he look way bigger then FRAUD BUMWEATHER in that post fight interview
Yes a bit bigger...and this is actually a disadvantage for Shane. He'll kill himself trying to make weight for WW. and Floyd, even in the rare event he gives Shane the favor of a fight...would never fight shane higher than welter.
SSM brings handspeed, power, a good chin, and 12 rd stamina. He just ain't got the legs to beat Mr boat buyer. He takes 4 rds 4 sho, maybe 5, but he loses a UD. Mr boat buyer's footwork would make the difference.
12 round stamina? lately, it seems to me that he has looked like he gets tired earlier...that could just be me though.
SSM brings handspeed, power, a good chin, and 12 rd stamina. He just ain't got the legs to beat Mr boat buyer. He takes 4 rds 4 sho, maybe 5, but he loses a UD. Mr boat buyer's footwork would make the difference.
Depends which Mosley would show up, really.
People are assuming he will be the same as he was when he dismantled Margarito. But the thing about Margarito is he let Shane wind up and heave these massive shots with very little opposition offered back, or defense/evasion to speak of. Margarito was shell shocked indeed and just basically stood there and took punishment. Floyd would not do that, even for a second. Floyd is one of the most composed and calm fighters of this era. He would not get shell shocked. I think part of it is Shane was offended that Marg almost used illegal wraps on him and wanted to pay him pack, so it was personal. But a far different Shane shows up, given the fight. I don't find him the most consistent of the bunch, though when he does choose to, he can really shock and awe some opponents.
I think Shane would try to impose his strength on Floyd by doing alot of infighting..holding and hitting...cutting off the ring, trapping on the ropes..trying to forcefully just shatter Floyd's defensive structure. Sort of ala Castillo I. Staying right in front or on the outside and throwing bombs would not work on Floyd like it worked on Margarito.
But Shane is a powerful WW, and would have a chance against Floyd..Though, I would give Floyd odds, because we are dealing with a whole new kind of Mayweather nowadays..Bigger and stronger. Just as fast and elusive, if not more. Mosley is passed his prime despite some flashes of brilliance and I feel Mayweather is sitting right at or near the pinnacle of his prime.
How did he change his style? Not disputing it, just want to know, I must've missed it.
sat down on his right . which made his jab hook and combos better . i can tell you more if you really wanna know PM me .. i dont like telling my secrets..
mosley has the potential to ktfo mayweather or anybody at ww... floyd knows that
agreed...that's why fraud will duck him. i lol when i saw the video of the post fight interview
Mosley would be fast enough to stay in Floyd's face all night, and has the power to knock the block off anyone at 147. He would make Mayweather let his hands go and fight which no one has made him do since the Castillo fight.
I don't think Mayweather can do that anymore. The fact Sugar Shane is a brawler works to his advantage here, he won't try to outbox Pretty Boy. People assume because Cotto outboxed Mosley Floyd would do it even easier, I don't see it that way. Mosley was nailing bombs on Cotto that Mayweather wouldn't be able to handle, even if he only got hit with half of them. Also, Cotto wasn't just boxing, he was nailing big hooks on Mosley that made Sugar Shane back up, which Mayweather can't compare to.
good post.
mosley is a speedy-brawler but can box on his toes if he has to (but that's not his best stuff imho). mosley can't adjust in the ring based on his opponent's tactics.
Yeah but Gatti-like intelligence? He made great adjustments in the Winky rematch and even more in the Forrest rematch. I also think he adjusted very well in the mid to latter rounds against Collazo. Same with the second Oscar fight.
its funny how these floyd heads want to downplay shane, when they know good and damn well when floyd hits shane, shane's fast enough to hit him back...that's what shane brings to the table..
Mosley would be fast enough to stay in Floyd's face all night, and has the power to knock the block off anyone at 147. He would make Mayweather let his hands go and fight which no one has made him do since the Castillo fight.
I don't think Mayweather can do that anymore. The fact Sugar Shane is a brawler works to his advantage here, he won't try to outbox Pretty Boy. People assume because Cotto outboxed Mosley Floyd would do it even easier, I don't see it that way. Mosley was nailing bombs on Cotto that Mayweather wouldn't be able to handle, even if he only got hit with half of them. Also, Cotto wasn't just boxing, he was nailing big hooks on Mosley that made Sugar Shane back up, which Mayweather can't compare to.
Gatti's boxing intelligence? Why do you say that?
mosley is a speedy-brawler but can box on his toes if he has to (but that's not his best stuff imho). mosley can't adjust in the ring based on his opponent's tactics.