pacquiao is a warrior but he is not stupid, why risk his health just to satisfy some dumb ass haters. this fight is fair no matter how you look at it.
haha, fighting for a non-title fight is more of a health risk than a Title fight? :rofl:
well,not everyon knows all the rules.....i just found that out not too long ago myself and if one did'nt know,you cant really blame him for thinkin it....
Yeah, I figured he didn't know that why I said I wanted to clarify it for him. That's why I didn't use the opportunity to personally attack him the way many would've.
boxers just need not to fight in ny anymore.....that rule sucks and does not make sense at all....
man you better go head with that new york is where is at homie now
roach doesnt have the confidence to put pac in the ring with a full fledge ww and thats why as far as for you uncle sam or what ever your name is cotto doesnt fight at 140 in years.....you need to watch more boxing not just one fighter watch espn tonite its friday nite fights cayo vs diaz on espn 2...study the sport and then comeback with knowledge
ok if you say so. like i said if he doesnt have to weigh 80 lbs mosley wins. or did u not see him knock out margarito? but pac has a better chin if forgot. get the **** out of here.
I hope and pray that this fight will not happen..F*ck it!!
Bring on Pac vs Mosley. instead....so Cotto can defend his precious WBO belt againts Michael Jennings again.
Mosley knocks pac man the **** out if he doesnt have to weigh 80 lbs for the fight.:boxing:
boxers just need not to fight in ny anymore.....that rule sucks and does not make sense at all....
I don't care for the rule either. Just clarifying the situation to your boy who seems to imply that Cotto is trying to hide something by not doing a fight time re-weight.
I hope and pray that this fight will not happen..F*ck it!!
Bring on Pac vs Mosley. instead....so Cotto can defend his precious WBO belt againts Michael Jennings again.
The reason why is simple.
Manny is in a position to demand certain stipulations in the fight.
Cotto is not.
Cotto is playing B-side in this fight whether you want to admit it or not. So when that's the case, you have to sacrifice a few things to your opponent.
That's just how it is.
The logic behind it is that Manny can get a big money fight with just about anyone.
Cotto, not so much. He's only really popular in PR and NY.
Outside of that, he's still virtually unknown to paying customers.
shut up bitch you are starting to annoy me !
If Pac wins, I'll buy you a gift on whatever account you're usin by then, ok son? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I'm sure Pac don't care himself, but Arum n Roach don't trust him tryin his hand as a full fledged WW. He shoulda just stayed at 140, but it is what it is.
Of course he will never be De La Hoya. He's not American.
The fact that he's even getting this much notariety and praise in the United States as a fighter who isn't even American speaks volumes.
People just love to watch him fight. Period.
The reason why Team Pacquiao can play hardball in the negotiations is because they realize that he is the most exciting fighter in the sport, and the fighter most paying customers (not internet boxing message board fans...there is a huge difference) want to see.
So knowing this, they realize that they can pretty much pick and choose who, where, and when they want to fight, and get a deal done because of the amount of revenue it will generate.
This is what I believe has ruined the negotiations so far. Pac's people think he is De La Hoya. He is not and will never be, neither will Cotto.
He is not nearly as well spoken, intelligent, business savvy, good looking, or appealing as Oscar.
Roach acts like Pac is the Golden Boy when in reality Pacman is just a really good fighter. He sells fights with his fighting not with his words or promotional abilities. Neither of these guys should have much leverage over the other. Yes Manny has some, but he already got the weight and the purse split, and that's enough.
I repeat PACQUIAO IS AND WILL NEVER BE OSCAR DE LA HOYA, HE IS JUST A GREAT FIGHTER AND A GREAT COUNTRYMEN, NO MORE
You forgot 1 thing.. He the face of boxing now... He not as big as Oscar.. but then again.. who will be...
But your missing the points.. Everyone wants to fight Pac.. just like everyone wanted to fight Oscar.. The reason why everyone wants to fight pac.. Is cause of the money just like Oscar.. So Pac is going to call the shots.. Just like Oscar...
The only difference is that Pac will never be as big as Oscar or make as much money...
Pluis I dont see many celebrity going out to watch fighters like , Cotto, Jmm, Mosley, But what I do see is celebrity coming from everywhere... to Watch Pac..
#3 Just like how Oscar called the Shots... Pac is now calling the shots.. Everyone wants to fight Manny.. for the #1 reason... money and to become the next person to call the Shots..
Example... If Cotto win.. he would be the next Golden Boy.. and everyone would like to fight him for the money.. and say someone like P-will wants to fight him.. he would make him come down to his weigh.. knowing that P-will would be weight drained for the fight.. And we would be having the same threads.. but it would be Cotto being called a Bitch.. instead of PAC.. but this is a big what if...
This is what I believe has ruined the negotiations so far. Pac's people think he is De La Hoya. He is not and will never be, neither will Cotto.
He is not nearly as well spoken, intelligent, business savvy, good looking, or appealing as Oscar.
Roach acts like Pac is the Golden Boy when in reality Pacman is just a really good fighter. He sells fights with his fighting not with his words or promotional abilities. Neither of these guys should have much leverage over the other. Yes Manny has some, but he already got the weight and the purse split, and that's enough.
I repeat PACQUIAO IS AND WILL NEVER BE OSCAR DE LA HOYA, HE IS JUST A GREAT FIGHTER AND A GREAT COUNTRYMEN, NO MORE
Because he dont want ti fight him at his best!!!!!!!!
whats pacs best weight. exactly!! cottos only chance is to outweigh him by 20- pounds and he prob still get beat
1. 138 is Junior WW not LW
2.Pacquiaos comes at 147-148, Cotto has never weighted 160 pounds let alone over that.
3.Cotto wont bringas much money as DLH, but he still fought Oscar at 147, so he should be able to fight at the weight if teh DLH fight was so huge for his status.
4.So why the first 3 excuses?
5.I agree with that!!!!!!!
#1 I said he can make LW easy.. not that he came in at LW...
#2 Are you sure about that?? He never came in 160+.. I swear he has in past fights.
#3 Just like how Oscar called the Shots... Pac is now calling the shots.. Everyone wants to fight Manny.. for the #1 reason... money and to become the next person to call the Shots..
Example... If Cotto win.. he would be the next Golden Boy.. and everyone would like to fight him for the money.. and say someone like P-will wants to fight him.. he would make him come down to his weigh.. knowing that P-will would be weight drained for the fight.. And we would be having the same threads.. but it would be Cotto being called a Bitch.. instead of PAC.. but this is a big what if...
#4 You wanted reason .. I gave you reason.
#5. At least we agree on something..