Is a though one but...
I'll give it to Bernard Hopkins cause is the only one that has ever beaten Pavlik... and the fight with Calzaghe was very close.
I've got to go with Jones on this one, based mainly on the fact that he has spent the bulk of his career fighting naturally bigger guys. Bhops best wins are all over guys moving up in weight, maybe if Bhop had fought some more lightheavys then I would give him more credit.I still cant figure out what happened in Jones fight with Calzaghe though, its like the dude gave up after rnd two.
Or better yet fought and beat one other heavyweight, like maybe even Mike Tyson (who wasn't the same anymore). He could have retired 50-1 with his one loss really being a win.
Fighting even a washed up Tyson would be a dangerous move, but yes could you imagine? He would be a top 10 ATG, no doubt.
B-Hop
Even if Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya were WW at one time, history will Show Trinidad and De La Hoya at JMW and how Trinidad dominated JMW for the time he was there. DLH at SMW was really good too.
B Hop has the better Resume and took out two RJJ conquers Glen Johnson, Tarver. Beat Winky. Beat Lineal MW champ Pavlik who will move up in weight in a couple years. Maybe after the SMW tourney.
And his amazing run at MW beating 16 top ten MW in his 20 defenses. Impressive.
He is easily top 50 all time. and maybe could crack 30-40 imo in some cases. But if he was to get that 3rd weight class. Then he would easily be 30-40.
And the funny thing is Hopkins prime was from around 97-2002ish. He isn't even in his prime no more, and still gets it done. Its amazing to watch. and you see Roy Jones out of his prime, and see he is a shell of himself.
DLH was a SMW?? just messin... I pick B-Hop based on his title defenses, quality of opponents, and longevity on the P4P lists...
Has Hopkins got a win over Vinny Paz?
Don't think so.
That's what they were referring to on previous replies..
Roy Jones between 1990-2000 was the best new kid on the block...
He hasn't been that great since then.. Instead of putting Roy Jones against a fat and retired Tito Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins was active, was and still in the top 5
B-Hop
Even if Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya were WW at one time, history will Show Trinidad and De La Hoya at JMW and how Trinidad dominated JMW for the time he was there. DLH at SMW was really good too.
B Hop has the better Resume and took out two RJJ conquers Glen Johnson, Tarver. Beat Winky. Beat Lineal MW champ Pavlik who will move up in weight in a couple years. Maybe after the SMW tourney.
And his amazing run at MW beating 16 top ten MW in his 20 defenses. Impressive.
He is easily top 50 all time. and maybe could crack 30-40 imo in some cases. But if he was to get that 3rd weight class. Then he would easily be 30-40.
And the funny thing is Hopkins prime was from around 97-2002ish. He isn't even in his prime no more, and still gets it done. Its amazing to watch. and you see Roy Jones out of his prime, and see he is a shell of himself.
History will always put Jones above Hopkins because he was the more celebrated of the two.
Even though I disagree and think Hopkins is the better fighter ; I'm cool with that.
I know his place in History was cemented years ago.
All this post 40 shit is just icing on the cake.
Roy in his prime was a sight to behold,but he was born naturally talented with superb reflex's and speed and coordination!!Which he used very well,on a natural level he is better,was better hands down!!
B-Hop on the other hand has aged better and is a master of the craft!!He wasn't born naturally gifted like Jones,but he studied his craft and learned to be a great fight and in the end outlasted Roy as an elite fighter,so B-Hop is greater!!!!
That was very thoughtful but I like it and in someway agree with you
Done to death. RJ will be remembered as the gr8er fighter historically. Bhop has just aged better than he has. RJ's crash takes away a lil bit too much of his overall career shine in some people's minds. But he's above Bhop imo, and that says a lot cuz Bhop is a legend himself.
Roy in his prime was a sight to behold,but he was born naturally talented with superb reflex's and speed and coordination!!Which he used very well,on a natural level he is better,was better hands down!!
B-Hop on the other hand has aged better and is a master of the craft!!He wasn't born naturally gifted like Jones,but he studied his craft and learned to be a great fight and in the end outlasted Roy as an elite fighter,so B-Hop is greater!!!!
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