There's No Reason the Klitschkos Can't [potentially] Be Outjabbed

Klitschko's can be beat with pressure. they don't know how to handle pressure fighters. Sanders proved this with Vitali in the first round, and Sam Peter proved this with Wladimir. But this style requires good conditioning and a powerful punch. they haven't faced anyone with both yet. I have to disagree. Vitali seemed to handle Corrie's pressure OK, and took some of the biggest left hands I've ever seen thrown in this sport, pretty well. You could tell he wasn't as comfortable being pressured, rather than being the one applying the pressure, but I thought he handled it pretty well. Considering that Sanders was probably the most dangerous (in the first 4 to 6 rounds) southpaw heavy that's ever fought in the sport, and in my opinion, in the top 10 heaviest punchers as well, had lightning fast hands, iron chin, size and reach....I really didn't see any problem with Vitali's performance. Additionally, on a good night, and if he came to the ring in shape and motivated (like he did against Wlad), I'd have picked Sanders to have a 50/50 or better chance of beating any heavyweight in history, ever. Vitali has certainly given some mediocre performances, but his Sanders fight wasn't one of them, at least in my opinion.

I think Vitali can be straight outboxed. I remember seeing Herbie Hide lighting him up for a round. Obviously he was KTFO'd afterward. But good footspeed, handspeed and a high boxing I.Q would give him problems. He will hit people with that right though, it's mesmerising nobody can get out of the way of that thing. Wlad, you need to somehow counter that jab. Wlad is looking very good right now, I don't think anyone can beat him aside from the usual 'punchers chance.' He is fighting in a comfort-zone, it takes him about a round to blow-away that kind of anxiety that he used to carry and still does a bit, then he's behind that jab, nice and safe. I don't think the punchers chance even extends out of the first two rounds, he's kicking your arse all night after that. He certainly has been recently. Vitali can be got. Especially at 38, with a creaky body.

Not sure how someone can say the Klitschko's are dodging anyone. Seems to me like top contenders are the ones who dodge them. They seem to take on all comers and go out of their way to fight guys with hype. I mean Haye doesnt really deserve a title shot, but he'll get one to shut him up. So who is this big strong fast and conditioned heavyweight out there who wlad and vitali are ducking? You tell me a name. I don't see any fighter with power, skill, speed, chin and discipline to match the Ukrainians. Both Ks are fast, experienced, strong, and technically top-notch. It speaks bad for the division right now that there are no true challengers for them. But at the same time, both K's are worthy (if boring) champions.

One important this you need against Wlad is footspeed, quite a few of his opponents have head movement but they don't have the quick feet needed to close the gap to get past the jab, most of them manage to take a step forward after slipping the jab but by the time they finish that step Wlad is two steps away again. Or you have to be tall enough or long enough to get to Wlad on the outside which not a lot of people can do, Corrie Sanders did it but he was a very quick handed 6'5 southpaw.

All you need is some head movement, and a counter right hand. 3 words ; Eddie Chambers, son. If he can avoid the right hand, I like his chances to make a go of it. And with his tight defense and good head movement, he should be able to avoid most of those rights. I'd feel a lot more comfortable if I knew whether or not he could take one when he had to, though.

Anyone can potentially be outdone at sumthin.

All you need is some head movement, and a counter right hand. and some balls not to get discouraged after getting hit by the first punch.

Yeah, I know it's a mixture of things. But it ultimately boils down to who has the gonads to go out there and do it, and be focused at the same time. Even Lennox was being outjabbed by Bruno and Mercer. Bruno was very fired up for that fight , and Mercer had the gonads to go out and put authority in his jab, although his chin certainly helped as well.

People make far too many excuses. The fact of the matter is that the Klitschkos are good fighters who haven't faced quality opponents. There's no excuse for the likes of Rahman, who has an 82'' reach. Saying the Klitschkos are only successful because of their size is barely a half-truth. The fact is that they're big and quite talented. Their opponents should be going out with power jabs and really going for it. Most of them aren't good enough. It's not about size though. That's an excuse. Klitschko's can be beat with pressure. they don't know how to handle pressure fighters. Sanders proved this with Vitali in the first round, and Sam Peter proved this with Wladimir. But this style requires good conditioning and a powerful punch. they haven't faced anyone with both yet.

for the klitschkos its about speed, timing and distance, when controlling a fight with their jab. the threat of the right hand means the jab is given less attention. distance allows only them to land a punch and the speed allows their punches to land efore an opponent can move or land their own punches. it isnt only about size, which does help, but i think that helps less than speed, timing, distance as well as the threat of the right hand. nikolai valuev doesnt have nearly as good of a jab. i dont know much about historical giants technically, but i dont think they all controlled fights with their jabs as especially wladimir but also vitali does

All you need is some head movement, and a counter right hand.