Tommy Hearns vs Paul Williams at 147

paul will gets knocked out in the 1st

Paul is too damn hittable. I can't help but think with his defense, he gets laid out by Tommy.

And i have no doubts in my mind that Williams beats both Pav and AA. Hearns doesnt have the legs to give paul angles to cut his workrate in half....Tommy would try to FIGHT him rather then outbox him....and that plays intop Williams favor....Williams throws more...hes bigger....taller..has the longer reach...has the better chin. I just cant pick Hearns in ths fight. u are a tool. first of abraham beats the living hell out of williams, but thats another conversation. williams doesnt stand a chance in hell against hearns. i mean are u serious? the guy holds wins over margarito and a past prime innactive winky wright. u compare him to tommy hearns? TOMMY HEARNS!? tommy outboxed leonard, benitez and hill, i think he can outbox williams. as for those saying he never fought anyone as big as williams. FALSE, he fought and beat (outboxed) virgil hill, a solid 175lber who had a long career as a CW. Williams stamina..speed..workrate and power...and add in the fact that Hearns is also EASY to hit and has a bad chin='s a Williams KO hearns was easy to hit? okey u just went from igorant to straight retarded. hearns was one of the most skilled fighters in the history of boxing. very hard to hit. hagler hit him cuz hearns chose to fight rather than box. barkley caught him cuz hearns was so dominant he got sloppy. everyone gets hit, but hearns wasnt by any means easy to hit. those guys are WAY bigger punchers than williams who wouldnt do the same damage even if he got the chance. if williams fought at 160 against quality oposition he would get KOd himself anyways. king arthur would put him on a stretcher. youre so stupid i dont even know what to say. hearns toys with williams. this is a complete mismatch. hearns can outbox him all night if he chooses, or he can fight him and beat the shit out of him, or he can set up a big right and knock him clean out. hearns-williams would most likely end up like hearns-shuler.

I was waiting for this unbiased response. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: Nice one, Trav.

Williams was getting tagged a lot by Margarito. If Marg, who is very slow, loops his punches and is not particularly skilled, then Hearns hits him nearly at will. Hearns' supposed shaky chin is so overrated. He was hit by big punches and for the very large majority of his career took them well. He was only knocked out by guys with big one punch power, and Barkley was a guy with seriously heavy hands and he also much better skilled than people give him credit for. Three weight world champion from MW to LHW and beat some amazing opposition. Hearns doesn't need to worry too much about Williams punch output because he would be able to hurt Williams early on and would also bang his body a lot early on. Williams leaves his body open and has a very long torso making it easier to hit and Hearns had some of the hardest body punching ever. Not only that, but Williams could not win a boxing match. He is not nearly as quick or skilled and his only option would really be to try and knock him out which just wouldn't happen. At 147 Hearns went twelve rounds with a KO in the twelfth with no problem and also went twelve a number of times against pressure fighters with good stamina at 154. He outboxed them easily without tiring in the slightest because he was able to catch them on the way in with his jab. See, Hearns would catch Williams with his jab all night, which would make Williams hesitate and be overly cautious. If he didn't get KO'd in the first four/six rounds he would certainly feel the power and probably be hurt a number of times, slowing him down and making him throw less as he would get countered. Hearns simply has too much for Williams. Too good, too skilled, too powerful, too fast. The Cotto/Marg/Malignaggi examples are terrible too. Paulie couldn't hurt a fly, Cotto has bad defense and is much smaller, nor does he have the speed or power of Hearns. Marg very nearly beat Williams and was able to hit him a lot. The only reason he did lose is because Marg started so slow. Hearns would win all the early rounds with his speed and power and if he didn't KO him he would then proceed to outbox him winning a twelve round decision with relative ease. Great points. Side note ; Did you know Tommy still has his punching power? He fought his last fight in 2006, and won by TKO. I had no idea he had laced them up so recently.

I didnt say power..I said strength. And say what you want but styles makes fights.............its not cliche its facts. Tommy would be overwhelmed and his right hand would get smothered...Williams knocks him out. And for your examples..the Brawler that is Mayorga holds TWO wins over Forrest the slick boxer. Margarito absolutely owned Cotto. Cotto absolutely owned Malinagii. I dont get what your saying? Williams was getting tagged a lot by Margarito. If Marg, who is very slow, loops his punches and is not particularly skilled, then Hearns hits him nearly at will. Hearns' supposed shaky chin is so overrated. He was hit by big punches and for the very large majority of his career took them well. He was only knocked out by guys with big one punch power, and Barkley was a guy with seriously heavy hands and he also much better skilled than people give him credit for. Three weight world champion from MW to LHW and beat some amazing opposition. Hearns doesn't need to worry too much about Williams punch output because he would be able to hurt Williams early on and would also bang his body a lot early on. Williams leaves his body open and has a very long torso making it easier to hit and Hearns had some of the hardest body punching ever. Not only that, but Williams could not win a boxing match. He is not nearly as quick or skilled and his only option would really be to try and knock him out which just wouldn't happen. At 147 Hearns went twelve rounds with a KO in the twelfth with no problem and also went twelve a number of times against pressure fighters with good stamina at 154. He outboxed them easily without tiring in the slightest because he was able to catch them on the way in with his jab. See, Hearns would catch Williams with his jab all night, which would make Williams hesitate and be overly cautious. If he didn't get KO'd in the first four/six rounds he would certainly feel the power and probably be hurt a number of times, slowing him down and making him throw less as he would get countered. Hearns simply has too much for Williams. Too good, too skilled, too powerful, too fast. The Cotto/Marg/Malignaggi examples are terrible too. Paulie couldn't hurt a fly, Cotto has bad defense and is much smaller, nor does he have the speed or power of Hearns. Marg very nearly beat Williams and was able to hit him a lot. The only reason he did lose is because Marg started so slow. Hearns would win all the early rounds with his speed and power and if he didn't KO him he would then proceed to outbox him winning a twelve round decision with relative ease.

For all of the people loudly proclaiming Paul's great chin, answer me this ; Who the hell has he fought that tested it? Andy Kolle? Verno Phillips? Antonio Margarito? (Not a power puncher, just a volume puncher.) Carlos Quintana? Sharmba Mitchell? Winky Wright? Paul has never faced a guy with a serious punch. So you can't talk about how amazing his chin is. For fuck's sake ; I could look like Marvin Hagler in the ring if you put me in there against the likes of Paulie Malignaggi.

Hearns by KO early probably within four. williams wouldn't knock him out. hearns is only vulnerable on the inside but i see this as an outside fight. hearns has fought bigger people and hearns has fought faster people and thosewith a higher workrate. man hearnes hasnt face anyone with the work rate of paul, plus what you said proves my point...hearns being vulnerable on the inside because thats how the fight would be fought. a few things on paul: 1 I have never seen him hurt badly in a fight and he has a great chin. If hearns did catch him then I would agree he would be in trouble but pauls style wouldnt allow it. reason he would allow it is because if you look at the way hearnes caught people, there were in stationary positions and at certain ranges. Also he was always the guy with the longer reach so most had to work there way in with head movement thus leading them to get caught. Paul has the reach advantage and can use his reach to punch his way in from a distance and keep it and inside fight for a couple of rounds which would fustrate hearnes. I see tommie then trying to brawl and getting outboxed. Paul is one of the best at smothering people and closed the gap on fighers. This is a nightmare matchup for hearns in my book.

Hearns by KO early probably within four. williams wouldn't knock him out. hearns is only vulnerable on the inside but i see this as an outside fight. hearns has fought bigger people and hearns has fought faster people and thosewith a higher workrate.

pwill would beat that dude to a pulp...... i just dont see how hearns would be able to deal with someone with his size, and much superior stamina, and a better chin.....

:lol1: I'm not. This is NSB, remember? :lol1: Oh yeah....forgot where I was when I typed that. :alcoholic

:lol1: I'm surprised people actually think Williams would knock Hearns out. :lol1: I'm not. This is NSB, remember? :lol1:

Man I dont see hearns landing one of those vicious right hands on williams often. I hate when people bring that up. Look at the way hearnes lands his right hand. I have never seen a paul williams opponent land a huge lunging punch on him. Add that and the fact paul smothers his opponents and is head and shoulders a better inside fight than hearns and I really dont see this as much of a contest. also Paul punches his way inside and a lot of hearns huge rights are predicated on catching an opponent. How can you catch an opponent flush when he is always throwing.

We wrote the same thing at the same time. That would definitely be Hearns' plan. ya...except Williams has a longer reach than Hearns so he wouldnt necessarily try to get inside. He'd actually be more effective on the outside. As far as I know Hearns had never fought anyone in his career that actually had a reach advantage over him which could make things interesting. But williams doesnt always use his size effectively and tends to smother himself sometimes.

Hearns was a very underrated boxer, and he's capable of outboxing Williams. But if he did decide to fight Paul, that only spells more trouble for Paul with the way he leaves himself wide open during exchanges. Disagree with this. In an inside battle Paul's uppercuts are sharper and he throws more precise combinations than Hearns did. Hearns kinda just went all out and swung like a madman when his switch flipped.

Personally I think Hearns would be able to disrupt Pwill's workrate. Not necessarily because of angles or outboxing or whatnot but because for such a big guyWilliams doesnt always use his size effectively and tends to smother himself sometimes. Hearns on the other hand has that long flicking jab which is very tricky and could make williams think twice about opening up. We wrote the same thing at the same time. That would definitely be Hearns' plan.

I didnt say he was stronger....I said at WW he was as strong. And i have no doubts in my mind that Williams beats both Pav and AA. Hearns doesnt have the legs to give paul angles to cut his workrate in half....Tommy would try to FIGHT him rather then outbox him....and that plays intop Williams favor....Williams throws more...hes bigger....taller..has the longer reach...has the better chin. I just cant pick Hearns in ths fight. Hearns was a very underrated boxer, and he's capable of outboxing Williams. But if he did decide to fight Paul, that only spells more trouble for Paul with the way he leaves himself wide open during exchanges. Who wins these two matches?? Sergio Mora vs. Kelly Pavlik Mayweather vs. Williams Mora could beat Pavlik so long as he stuck to his gameplan. But he's shown a tendency to stray a bit from that in the past (Forrest II), so I'd pick Kelly but I wouldn't bet a wooden nickel on it. Mayweather would beat Williams by decision. No doubt in my mind. There was a time when I thought that Paul's freakish advantages in height and reach would easily win him this one..... ....Then I saw Carlos Quintana (only 1 and a half inches taller than Floyd) beat Paul to the punch and school him all night long in their first fight. That pretty much sealed it up for me. Don't get me wrong, Paul still has a chance with his advantages. But after the schooling he got from a lesser boxer than Floyd in Quintana, his chances got cut in half, at least.

Williams is more or less a straight ahead infighter, and with Manny "I make all of my fighters throw 5000 jabs a day" Steward in Tommy's corner, the plan is for Tommy to keep Williams off balance by throwing 60-70 of his patented come-from-anywhere flicker jabs per round. If Tommy follows that plan, Williams loses the early rounds on points, get frustrated, loosens up his guard while trying to get inside...and then BAM! Tommy starts to land the chopping right and it's downhill for Williams. However, Tommy is the more versatile fighter, but at times his heart gets the best of him and he bucks the gameplan in favor of trying to brawl his way to a KO. If that happens, I don't think his hands or his jaw withstand Paul's Punishment and he gets KOd in a war. Hearns has the advantage, but I wouldn't go anywhere near this fight gambling-wise.

Personally I think Hearns would be able to disrupt Pwill's workrate. Not necessarily because of angles or outboxing or whatnot but because for such a big guyWilliams doesnt always use his size effectively and tends to smother himself sometimes. Hearns on the other hand has that long flicking jab which is very tricky and could make williams think twice about opening up.

Hearns by TKO...