Where does Roy Jones belong on theATG list?

If he'd have quit as planned after the first Tarver fight..........top 15 easy, maybe to ten. Before he was concussed he took hard shots......the tomato can argument?? Look at all the other ATG's. He is in a no-win situation. He beat his best competition (Hopkins,Toney) too early and despite their claims, wanted nothing to do with him until he couldn't pull the trigger........like Calzaghe. If you look at him at his very best, he was as hard to hit as Floyd without as good a defense, more accurate and hit much harder......... It's too bad he kept going after beating Ruiz and Tarver. At that point if he wanted to keep fighting he'd have been better off at Cruiser. But look at the first Tarver fight and the fights prior to Ruiz. There's a reflex difference and as stubborn as he was, refused to believe it. But the fact he kept going too long isn't exactly unheard of. I'd rather have KO losses to Tarver and Johnson than, oh, say, Camacho for example.....and at MW to boot?? Dude was close to 49-1 (DQ brutally avenged by ko1) with 38 KO's going into the second Tarver fight?? He got to what should have been 50-0 as impressively as Floyd did and quicker........he was also one of the first to truly promote himself from the jump...... Go back and look at film if you haven't in awhile. I don't think anyone since Hagler even comes close. At LHW you have to go to Spinks or Foster........ I think he'll eventually get his due.........if Floyd gets KO'd by someone like Maidaina, suddenly his top 10-ish finish will be questioned too. BTW.......Floyd agrees:boxing: When asked about Jones he said "I think he'd be have finished near the top if he'd have stopped after Ruiz. But now he's probably top 30" I'd say he's the best athlete ever in the sport, likely troubles anyone of the ATG P4P at his absolute best with very few beating him.... Tough question. No real dance partners after shutting down Toney. Floyd still has at least one and I do think if that fight doesn't happen it will hurt him in the mythical list........but both are great. Since Ali retired, the very best fighters P4P have been Duran, Leaonard, Hagler, Hearns, Chavez, Whittaker, Toney, Jones, and Hopkins in a linear-type way......along with Floyd and Pac of course.......Ward will follow.......

Probably the most dominant fighter ever. 15 years of dominating every opponent he faced over 5 different weight classes. Thats unmatched.

Hard to say, he didn't build his resume well throughout most of his prime, and his legacy suffered more than any fighter in recent memory when he fell out of it. I tend to simply think of him as perhaps the most athletic talent in the history of boxing, and leave it at that.

jones should've just retired after the 1st tarver fight....he was slowin down then...he dimished his legacy with those nasty kos and his lost to glenn johnson(9x loser)for sure... I don't think he diminished his legacy any more than Ali, Robinson or Leonard when they suffered losses past 35.

Roy should be ranked VERY highly. His weight drained self shouldn't count, and he is the most extreme example of some one who yoyo'd their weight and he did it at the "no-no point" of a boxing career. 49-1 before the skid, you can easily argue he won 50 straight. Hopkins, Toney, Griffin, Hill, Ruiz, Tarver, etc.

You must be a fan.

skill wise he is bitch maybe...pussy.

I think that roy is the best of all time. But he dont have the importants fights to considerer it the P4P of all time. I think top 5 top 8 Roy isnt even close to top 10... hes between 40-60.

I think that roy is the best of all time. But he dont have the importants fights to considerer it the P4P of all time. I think top 5 top 8

I dont think he is a Hopkins or Calzaghe ATG more around the Mayweather level. Calzaghe :rofl: Yet you have the nerve to say ROY has a list of bums on HIS resume... This shit is priceless... keep em coming.

#88 - Bert Sugar's G.O.A.T. #44 - Ring Magazine's Greatest Fighter in last 80 years. Seems credible enough to me

Cats gotta dead this ATG list shit. He's in there, but who knows where exactly. Impossible to fathom individually analyzing 50 or 100 fighters' careers and placin em 1 at a time, which somehow every poster on here seems to have done. lol another ATG pick a number time. He's an ATG, somewhere between Robinson and (who's #100?)........

The Ring ranked him right inside 50 a few yrs back That was before he moved to heavyweight. Following his defeat of Ruiz, I remember them stating he probably moves into the top 15. Of course, that was before his defeats to Tarver & Johnson.

Cats gotta dead this ATG list shit. He's in there, but who knows where exactly. Impossible to fathom individually analyzing 50 or 100 fighters' careers and placin em 1 at a time, which somehow every poster on here seems to have done.

The Ring ranked him right inside 50 a few yrs back

Top 15-30. Probably closer to the latter but who knows?

I only named those 2 losses because they're losses that never should have happened really. Calzaghe loss is fair enough really.

Top 100, lost to the best fighters he fought and hell lots of cans on his resume. He lost to the best fighters he fought :rofl: Hopkins Toney > Tarver Johnson

Top 20 ATG? Crap at these ratings but if he wins against Lacy and Green then it'd sort him out. It's the losses too Tarver and Johnson which won't look good ini

i dont know about all-time... but from the 90s up... hes gotta be near the very top... along with hopkins, lennox, evander, JCC, pernell, PBF & pacquiao...