R1 JMM 10, PAC 9
R2 JMM 10, PAC 9
R3 JMM 8, PAC 10
R4 JMM 9, PAC 10
R5 JMM 10, PAC 9
R6 JMM 10, PAC 9
R7 JMM 9, PAC 10
R8 JMM 10, PAC 9
R9 JMM 9, PAC 10
R10 JMM 9, PAC 10
R11 JMM 10, PAC 9
R12 JMM 10, PAC 9
My final score was 114-113 Marquez. I thought JMM won it by a point.
I feel that Pacquiao won the first fight clearly. JMM couldnt get round that first 10-6 round but i think he should have won the 2nd.
What was your score for the fight guys? Please post.
Thanks.
anything 115-112 or 114-113 for either fighter sounds good.
when you start getting to 116 or 117 range......somebody is seeing the fight with rose colored glasses for their guy.
Yo Tua, i think its even difficult scoring it 115-112 for either fighter. The fight was closer.
Lederman gave that last round to Pacquiao and i dont know how the **** he saw that!
114-113 to either fighter is pretty fair, but this fight was more of a draw than the first.
They need to have a 3rd.
you have a point there too, brother.
on video, theres some scenes that its hard to tell if the punch really landed, or the punch was really strong.
some say @ ringside, you can really feel/hear the impact of punches.
Often if a punch lands into the shoulder or arm it can sound great, like a solidly landed punch when it was in fact blocked. Hard to tell everything at ringside too. A punch that connects with a glove can also sound really loud and hard.
115-112 Marquez
round 1 10-9 Marquez landed the most significant punch in that round. (Swing round)
round 2 10-9 Marquez
round 3 10-8 Pac
round 4 10-9 Pac
round 5 10-9 Marquez
round 6 10-9 Marquez
round 7 10-9 Marquez
(7th round) Marquez controlled the first 2 minutes of the round and then pac started swinging and bouncing for about 20 seconds into the last minute but I felt Marquez fought on even terms with him in those 20 seconds and landed the harder the shots in the last 40 seconds of the round. I cant see how people give this round to pac but to each his own.
round 8 10-9 Marquez
round 9 10-9 Pac
round 10 10-9 Pac
round 11 10-9 Marquez
(11th round) Marquez was throwing and landing more shots than pac in this round. Even thou pac did a good job at blocking he didnt do enough to win this round. this round is even more clearly marquez than the 7th round.
round 12 10-9 Marquez
115-112 Marquez.
if I give my swing round to the Pacmonster I still scored it 114-113 for Marquez.
R1 JMM 10, PAC 9
R2 JMM 10, PAC 9
R3 JMM 8, PAC 10
R4 JMM 9, PAC 10
R5 JMM 10, PAC 9
R6 JMM 10, PAC 9
R7 JMM 9, PAC 10
R8 JMM 10, PAC 9
R9 JMM 9, PAC 10
R10 JMM 9, PAC 10
R11 JMM 10, PAC 9
R12 JMM 10, PAC 9
My final score was 114-113 Marquez. I thought JMM won it by a point.
I feel that Pacquiao won the first fight clearly. JMM couldnt get round that first 10-6 round but i think he should have won the 2nd.
What was your score for the fight guys? Please post.
Thanks.
Revisiting Manny Pacquiao v Juan Manuel Marquez II
Eric Sloan
Boxing Examiner
May 25, 2009
On May 8, 2004, Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez fought each other to a standstill in a fight that represented one of the greatest comebacks of all time. On March 15, 2008, the two men laced up the gloves again. This time Pacquiao was able to secure a split decision victory; however, to many boxing fans, the matter remains unresolved. Will we see a third and final chapter to this trilogy? Here is how I would have scored Pacquiao-Marquez II:
Round 1. This was a much different first round than was the case in the first fight. Manny's defense has improved noticeably and Marquez is still smart and dangerous. The two fought each other closely, but Marquez received my nod. (10 to 9, Marquez).
Round 2. Marquez made a lasting impression at the end of the round; however, Pacquiao was the more effective fighter. The Marquez counter shots that were so troubling in the first fight are now being picked off. (19 to 19, even).
Round 3. Until the last twenty seconds, I had no clear winner. Everything changed when Pacquiao dropped Marquez. 10 to 8 round for Pacquiao. (29 to 27, Pacquiao).
Round 4. Neither fighter landed any significant power shots, but Manny landed more scoring shots. Even though boxing judges are not punch counters, it is inevitable to a certain degree when the connect percentages are one-sided. (39 to 36, Pacquiao).
Round 5. I am tempted to go 10 to 10 on this round because both guys landed some great shots. I am going with Marquez though for the sole reason that shots appeared to be the more damaging. (48 to 46, Pacquiao).
Round 6. Comparing Manny to himself, he took the round off and another round for Marquez. (57 to 56, Pacquiao).
Round 7. This round required serious focus because it appeared that Marquez was landing many more shots that was the case. Manny blocked a significant portion and scored more often. (67 to 65, Pacquiao).
Round 8. The 8th was by far the most one-sided round in favor of Marquez. (76 to 75, Pacquiao).
Round 9. Marquez rallied at the end of the round, most likely in response to a new cut, but it was Manny's round on my card. (86 to 84, Pacquiao).
Round 10. Manny's best three minutes since the third round. Marquez almost hit the canvas and he bled more than Sissy Spacek did in the movie Carrie. (96 to 93, Pacquiao).
Round 11. Pacquiao's best work came at the end of the round, but he did block a high percentage of shots. On my card, it doesn't matter because Marquez was the more effective fighter. (105 to 103, Pacquiao).
Round 12. The war ends on Marquez's terms. My final score is 114 to 113 for Manny Pacquiao.
Two of the three judges disagreed with me. One judge had it 115 to 112 for Marquez and another judge had it 115 to 112 for Pacquiao. The third judge turned in the same score as my card.
In both fights, it came down to one knockdown to make the difference in my irrelevant scoring. Before there will be any serious discussion about scheduling part III of this trilogy, Juan Manuel Marquez must first get beyond Floyd Mayweather, Jr. on July 18th. The odds favor Mayweather in that contest; however, odds matter little to Marquez. Expect him to bring no less to the ring on that night than he has in the past.
http://www.fightjudge.com/user/Britton/329/scorecard.png
this is my scorecard from last year. i'd like to score it again sometime this week and see what i'd end up with now.
u dont have to score it again, u were accurate the first time.
http://www.fightjudge.com/user/Britton/329/scorecard.png
this is my scorecard from last year. i'd like to score it again sometime this week and see what i'd end up with now.
Get off this shit already. It was close, and Pac got the lone KD to steal it. Dead this shit FFS.
Come on mangler, we aint bitching or moaning or calling robbery... were just giving our opinions on a close fight and who we thought won, some people gave a close decision to Marquez some to Pacquiao.
Just scored it, looks like this...
Round 1 - 10-6 Pacquiao
Round 2 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 3 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 4 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 5 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 6 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 7 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 8 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 9 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 10 - 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 11 - 10-9 Marquez
Round 12 - 10-9 Marquez
Final score - 113-112 Marquez.
Judging by other peoples scores saying 114-113 Marquez I don't know whether I made some kinda typo or mistake in it but it looks right to me so I think its okay.
I had JMM scraping it, but some of the rounds were pretty close and could have gone either way so the fight could have gone either way I think, gotta give props to JMM for getting up after those knockdowns though and winning so many rounds... the more I watch these guys the more I become a fan of them. :boxing:
if youve never experienced to score the fight @ ringside, just STFU
What are you talkin about you could probs get a better decision with a video, can rewind n shit....even people at ringside dont get to see everything you know....