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Klitschkos resume' v Lewis resume'
Winners are shown in bold
Ross Purrity(31-20) Oliver Mcalll(51-9) Better record bigger name
Chris Byrd(41-5) Shannon Briggs(48-5) Better record bigger name
Barret(34-7) Andrew Golata(41-7) Better record bigger name
Corrie Sanders (42-4) Michael Grant(45-3) Better record bigger name
mccline(39-10)Evander Holyfield(42-10) Better record/Better resume' Bigger name, hall of famer etc
thompson(32-2) Gary Mason(37-1) Better record, equally meaningless career
brewster(35-4) Tommy Morrison(48-3) Better record, bigger name
shufford(20-8) Frank Bruno(40-5) Better record, bigger name
Ellisio castillo(20-3) Zeljko Mavrovic(27-1) Better record, equally meaningless name
wolfgramm(20-5) Razor Ruddock(37-5) Better record bigger name
larry donald(42-5) Henry Akinwande(50-4) Better record, equally meaningless name
kirk johnson(36-2) V. Klitschko(37-2) slightly better record, slightly bigger name, possibly a HOF
sam peter(30-3) 23 KOs David Tua(49-3) 42 KOs Better record, bigger name, More KOs
vaughn bean(45-6) Mike Tyson(50-6) Better record, bigger name, hall of famer
Common Opponents
(shot 41 y/o RayMercer) (Prime 36 y/o Ray Mercer) LL beat him 5 years earlier
(shot 35 y/o Phil Jackson) (Prime 29 y/o Phil Jackson) LL beat him 6 years earlier
(Shot 36 y/o Rahman) (Prime 29 y/o Rahman) LL ko'd him 3 rounds quicker:fing02:
(Old sloppy Botha) (2 years younger Botha) LL ko'd him 6 rounds quicker :fing02:
In addition to crushing both Klitschko resume's, Lennox also has the distinction of never quitting on his stool and he didnt need an older sibling to help avenge any of his losses. Its really amazing how his brief 44 fight resume' is deeper and richer than the combined 94 fight resume' of both brothers. I like Vitali and Wlad but they just come up short when compared to Lennox Lewis.
Lennox Lewis makes the top 10 ATG Heavyweight list thru a respectable number of people's eyes, and top 20 in just about anyone who knows anything about boxing's eyes. Wlad or Vitali still have more to prove to even earn being in the top 30. Not much more to prove...but more. If Wlad gets KOed by Haye he can forget about it. If Vitali's injuries cause him to get stopped again he can also forget about it.
Vitali's current success only makes Lennox look even better imo. It shows that Lennox was able to hold his ground against the next guy in line. Not many atgs are able to say that..
Young Johnson beat Jeffries
Young Dempsey beat Willard
Young Marciano beat Louis
Young Holmes beat Ali
Young Tyson beat Holmes
etc
and then...
Young Klitschko gets his face f#%ked up and loses on cuts to Lennox. In boxing, cuts caused by punches trump scorecards. And a decisvie KO trumps cuts, scorecards, and everything else. If Vitali had the spirit of a champion he would have used the cuts as extra motivation to KO his guy before the fight was stopped(like Marciano did on so many occasions.) He didn't.
When Vitali failed against Lewis he was basically saying: "My best barely reaches your worst, and this next era of heavyweights is going to absolutely suck.... Please fight me again when you are 40 so I can have a better chance of competing against you."
Head to head, prime for prime, six years apart, resume' to resume': Vitali just does not measure up.
LOL at comparing those versions of Jeffries, Ali and Louis to the 37 year old late maturing Lennox. Of course according to your first post, Tye Fields has a better record than Lennox.
Of course LL has a better resume than both Klits, he's a top 5 ATG HW, what do you expect?
Joe Louis was 34 when he gave Walcott a rematch. Walcott was 34 as well....so not a very accurate comparison. Lennox was 38 years old, with nothing more to prove and a crap-load of money in the bank. He had avenged all of his losses, beaten his rival Mike Tyson and crafted his way to a tko victory against the next guy in line. What more can you ask?
Vitali was in his PRIME when he failed against an aging Lennox and he's going to have to live with that for the rest of his life.
The comparison is more inaccurate if you compare the degree of controversy. Vitali's loss was much more controversial than Walcott's.
in the same way as the great Joe Louis gave a rematch to Joe Walcott.
Joe Louis was 34 when he gave Walcott a rematch. Walcott was 34 as well....so not a very accurate comparison. Lennox was 38 years old, with nothing more to prove and a crap-load of money in the bank. He had avenged all of his losses, beaten his rival Mike Tyson and crafted his way to a tko victory against the next guy in line. What more can you ask?
Vitali was in his PRIME when he failed against an aging Lennox and he's going to have to live with that for the rest of his life.
Lewis resume is better than either Klit's. The era was just better.
Of course there is a couple of things that detract from Lewis and prevents him from being a top ATG that being those 3 devastating KO losses and his failure to give Vitali a rematch in the same way as the great Joe Louis gave a rematch to Joe Walcott.
Vitali's current success only makes Lennox look even better imo. It shows that Lennox was able to hold his ground against the next guy in line. Not many atgs are able to say that..
Young Johnson beat Jeffries
Young Dempsey beat Willard
Young Marciano beat Louis
Young Holmes beat Ali
Young Tyson beat Holmes
etc
and then...
Young Klitschko gets his face f#%ked up and loses on cuts to Lennox. In boxing, cuts caused by punches trump scorecards. And a decisvie KO trumps cuts, scorecards, and everything else. If Vitali had the spirit of a champion he would have used the cuts as extra motivation to KO his guy before the fight was stopped(like Marciano did on so many occasions.) He didn't.
When Vitali failed against Lewis he was basically saying: "My best barely reaches your worst, and this next era of heavyweights is going to absolutely suck.... Please fight me again when you are 40 so I can have a better chance of competing against you."
Head to head, prime for prime, six years apart, resume' to resume': Vitali just does not measure up.
@TUNNEY
Right now the names and records on Lennox Lewis's resume' stomp the living crap out of both K brothers. As the still-active opponents of Klitschko continue to lose and tarnish their legacies, the disparity of records and big names will only grow over time.
And you keep mentionng Michael Grant...Michael Grant was younger, bigger and undefeated when LL beat him 10 years ago. 10 years have passed and Grant still only has 3 losses and is ranked higher than Calvin Brock, and many other Klitschko opponents in the current standings. Any way you slice it LL comes out on top. You will need to combine a 3rd heavyweight to compete with him tit for tat.