Higher ATG: Manny or Julio Cesar Chavez (Sr)?

Pac's accomlishments have surpassed JCC's by this point.

...pacman...

Julio Cesar Chavez fought 64 times from 1984 to 1998. This period covers his win over Ramon Avita (4 months before his first title win) to his second loss to Oscar De La Hoya in 1998. He had the 64 total fights and finished with 59 wins, 3 defeats and 2 fights drawn. During this time he campaigned at 130, 135, 140 and 147. Some of his best accomplishments: -WBC Super Featherweight champion (9 defenses of WBC title) -WBA/WBC Lightweight champion (2 defenses of WBA title) -Two-time WBC/One-time IBF Junior Welterweight champion (16 defenses of WBC title/2 defenses of IBF title) -Defeated one fighter currently enshrined in the IBHOF (E. Rosario) -Defeated other notable opponents like Mario Martinez, Roger Mayweather, Juan LaPorte, Bazooka Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez, Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho, Greg Haugen, Frankie Randall, Giovanni Parisi and Tony Lopez. ____________________________________________________ A little recap on the meat and potatoes of Chavez' career. The guy had an absurd amount of title defenses and fought more championship rounds than just about anyone throughout history. It IS complete bullshit when people say he fought nothing but scrubs. He fought several very good opponents and beat them. nobody will approach that type of record again....at least not with the comp. Sr. faced.

And Pac beat Barrera x2,Morales x2,Marquez,DLH,Hatton,Pac has the better names on his record IMO,everytime Chavez stepped it up he didnt look as good,Pernell took him to school and left him in detention and got robbed with a draw,Taylor was schoolin him until the controversial end Pac knocked out two of the best mexican fighters ever,Barrera and Morales Yea and they were both about 6 years removed from their prime, let's be real here. DLH, Barerra and Morales were not in their prime when Pac fought them and Morales beat him! JCC has the better resume up until now. It's like DLH or Tzsu taking credit for beating JCC....he was a done fighter by that time.

this thread is an insult to Manny. but comapring Floyd's resume is an insult to both Pac and JCC

oh shit. jcc is leading, line up all the pedicab drivers in gensan!! asap!

Chavez beat won 90 consecutive time with names like Rocky Lockridge Juan La Porte Edwin Rosario Roger Mayweather X 2 Meldrick Taylor X 2 Hector Camacho Greg Haugen And Pac beat Barrera x2,Morales x2,Marquez,DLH,Hatton,Pac has the better names on his record IMO,everytime Chavez stepped it up he didnt look as good,Pernell took him to school and left him in detention and got robbed with a draw,Taylor was schoolin him until the controversial end Pac knocked out two of the best mexican fighters ever,Barrera and Morales

i voted senior..

tricycle drivers charge more that's why. :D nope.....its because Valero already KTFO half of the tricycle drivers :smashfrea

Chavez beat won 90 consecutive time with names like Rocky Lockridge Juan La Porte Edwin Rosario Roger Mayweather X 2 Meldrick Taylor X 2 Hector Camacho Greg Haugen

is JCC sr. a 4 division lineal champ with titles in 6 weight divisions? Was pacquiao ever 90 and 0 with 27 world title defenses??

Damn. Dom really got ****ed up to those cats. From 21 points to being in the negative. You got to watch what you say about the pinoys around here.

get out of my thread post a ronnie "article" and i'll split until then, NO.

i think its time i told you who i really am.....just because of the constant bashing my articles get...it has to stop....registering here was recommended by the filipino ring idol himself along with his lovely wife you fukked up ronnie says "charming" not "lovely"

is JCC sr. a 4 division lineal champ with titles in 6 weight divisions?

Pacquiao. JCC fought about 90 taxi drivers. Actually he didn't....this is the biggest missconcepcion about JCC that he fought nothing but bums. He stayed BUSY and there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't matter if you fight 20X or 100X as long as you have credible fighters on your resume and beat them. JCC has beaten some great fighters and at this stage is better than Pacman. Pacquiao: Hatton, old DLH, Morales, Barrera, Ledwaba, Solis Chavez: Meldrick Taylor, Ramirez, Camacho, Haugen, R.Mayweather I think Chavez has faced better competition(then again if u have so many damn fights). Pacquiao is close thanks to Chavez beating a lotta cab drivers and Pacquiao being a 4 lineal champ. Chavez has beaten the better opponents though. I don't like these polls currently cuz the forum is overrun with too many Pac fans...u got people rating Pac over Pernell..smh Very good quote. I think Pac will be an ATG and am a big fan of his but if you look at his biggest victories it's been against fighters past their primes. Morales, DLH and Barerra all were past their prime and Morales even beat him one time. Pac will be an ATG but it's too soon to put him up their with JCC Sr. though.

there's no point. those guys that hit you have 10,15,20K rep power. people are even asking how to red k someone in that thread because they're new. miron is a pacland mod. a lot of the pacland guys have boxingscene accounts. he probably has a thread over there saying log onto here just to red k you. lmao You how do the pinoys have so many damn karma and e points anyways?

Pacquiao: Hatton, old DLH, Morales, Barrera, Ledwaba, Solis Chavez: Meldrick Taylor, Ramirez, Camacho, Haugen, R.Mayweather I think Chavez has faced better competition(then again if u have so many damn fights). Pacquiao is close thanks to Chavez beating a lotta cab drivers and Pacquiao being a 4 lineal champ. Chavez has beaten the better opponents though. I don't like these polls currently cuz the forum is overrun with too many Pac fans...u got people rating Pac over Pernell..smh On Pacquiao's resume of wins you missed out Juan Manuel Marquez.

i had a green bar, 21 rep power and got red k'd by pacquiao fans, i'm at 0 goes to show how many alts there are lol lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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