If you ask me, Sugar Shane should be #2 on every P4P list out there. Look at the wins he has. He has never been knocked out... he's coming off of a massive "upset" over Margarito. He's back to the old Shane. And I thought he fought a good fight against Cotto, even though I think Shane Mosley won every round after the 6th. He is a future HOF and is still one of the top 5 boxers fighting today. He deserves his props.
sidenote: (analogy)
Forrest is to Mosley::Marquez is to Pacquiao... a boxer whose only significant fights (in Forrest's case significant wins) came against a bigger named fighter. lol.
There are only really two throw back fighters of this generation. James Toney, and Shane Mosley. They will fight anyone anywhere anytime, no questions asked.
Balco
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He is a cheater.
why doesnt barry bonds get the credit he deserves?
Shane is good. He's an exciting and dynamic fighter who has won linear titles in three different weight classes, but when you put a jab in his face he turns pretty ordinary really quick. If you want to put him at #2 P4P go ahead. I just don't see it.
I'll agree on the jab thing. haha. but I'm just sayin, compare his resume to those ahead of him in the top 5. The only argument I could agree with is Hopkins being ahead of him. I feel everyone else at the top of the rankings have not faced the level of competition Mosley has faced and as many times as he has... other than Pac and B-Hop. And Mosley is still a beast out there.
If you ask me, Sugar Shane should be #2 on every P4P list out there. Look at the wins he has. He has never been knocked out... he's coming off of a massive "upset" over Margarito. He's back to the old Shane. And I thought he fought a good fight against Cotto, even though I think Shane Mosley won every round after the 6th. He is a future HOF and is still one of the top 5 boxers fighting today. He deserves his props.
sidenote: (analogy)
Forrest is to Mosley::Marquez is to Pacquiao... a boxer whose only significant fights (in Forrest's case significant wins) came against a bigger named fighter. lol.
Shane is good. He's an exciting and dynamic fighter who has won linear titles in three different weight classes, but when you put a jab in his face he turns pretty ordinary really quick. If you want to put him at #2 P4P go ahead. I just don't see it.
So he just did it for a bit of a laugh then.......?
Only he knows why he took it. He learned his lesson the hard way. I bet he's not doing it anymore though.
Good point. Yeah I do believe that did tarnish his achievements. But I personally don't see how doing 'roids really helps a boxer. I can see how it would help a weight lifter, football player, baseball player..etc. It makes you gain to much bulky mass and that byproduct right there makes it utterly useless to a fighter.
So he just did it for a bit of a laugh then.......?
The U.S is a sketchy place...this is the same country that killed JFK, and did 9/11. You think their gonna blink at suspending a boxer to make themselves look better?
I live in the real world.
What does the boxing commission have anything to do with JFK and 9/11??? man, give it up...
I suppose you think Margarito dominated that Paul Williams fight too, right???
I like Shane but it might have something to do with him injecting himself with an arse-full of roids..........maybe?
Good point. Yeah I do believe that did tarnish his achievements. But I personally don't see how doing 'roids really helps a boxer. I can see how it would help a weight lifter, football player, baseball player..etc. It makes you gain to much bulky mass and that byproduct right there makes it utterly useless to a fighter.
Mosley doesn't get the respect he deserves because he was always in ODLH's shadow, even though he beat him twice. I think Shane is more in control of his career now because Oscar is out of the picture.. he spent too much time trying to top what Oscar did. Now all he has to do is fight in his natural weight class. I still believe Shane has some fight left. He would definitely give any welter a run for his money.
That being said I also think SSM doesn't feel the need to jump back into the middle weight division to fight a Paul Williams. Shane already proved to himself that middleweight is not his weight. Paul will have bigger fish to fry with a looming Kelly Pavilik fight.
JMM is #1. And Plaster man doesnt apply. No proof Tony ever cheated against anyone.
Ok, so they suspended his US license for no reason??? kinda sketchy for the Americans to do that because Margarito was just climbing up the ladder to the top, right?
Hey can someone tell me where to find hand wraps that "naturally" hardens???
Antonio "Plaster Man" Margarito
37-5 when assumed cheating
0-1 when fighting fair
If you ask me, Sugar Shane should be #2 on every P4P list out there. Look at the wins he has. He has never been knocked out... he's coming off of a massive "upset" over Margarito. He's back to the old Shane. And I thought he fought a good fight against Cotto, even though I think Shane Mosley won every round after the 6th. He is a future HOF and is still one of the top 5 boxers fighting today. He deserves his props.
sidenote: (analogy)
Forrest is to Mosley::Marquez is to Pacquiao... a boxer whose only significant fights (in Forrest's case significant wins) came against a bigger named fighter. lol.
because shane didn't have the right promoters.
A month or two ago he turned the fight down. I can't remember the name of the thread...
Like I said though, they just don't bring enough money.
Edit: Yeah, I just remembered seeing a thread a while ago about Shane saying he doesn't have any interest in that fight. My mistake.
Cuz he's a cheater, cuz he has a basketball head, cuz he almost lost to a shot, fat Mayorga, cuz he lost to Cotto.
Cuz he's not good enough to be p4p #2. Thats Manny's spot.
He's lucky Tony didnt take the fight seriously and had to drop to much weight.
When Tony comes back its gonna be Mosleys ass.
If Manny is #2, suprise me with who ur #1 is.
And Tony as in... Antonio Margarito??? Antonio "Plaster Man" Margarito???
I believe you said "cheater" about Mosley... lol.
Because they don't bring any big money. And when did he turn down Berto?
A month or two ago he turned the fight down. I can't remember the name of the thread...
If you ask me, Sugar Shane should be #2 on every P4P list out there. Look at the wins he has. He has never been knocked out... he's coming off of a massive "upset" over Margarito. He's back to the old Shane. And I thought he fought a good fight against Cotto, even though I think Shane Mosley won every round after the 6th. He is a future HOF and is still one of the top 5 boxers fighting today. He deserves his props.
Cuz he's a cheater, cuz he has a basketball head, cuz he almost lost to a shot, fat Mayorga, cuz he lost to Cotto.
Cuz he's not good enough to be p4p #2. Thats Manny's spot.
He's lucky Tony didnt take the fight seriously and had to drop to much weight.
When Tony comes back its gonna be Mosleys ass.
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Then why did Shane turn down Paul Williams and Andre Berto?
And why did you leave out Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins?
Because they don't bring any big money. And when did he turn down Berto?