Pac VS JMM 2, Your honest unbiased opinion who do you think really won.

Looks like things are back to normal somewhat. Anyways. I hate stupid comments like the one you just posted. Nuthugging intentions? Thread back fired on me? What the is that all about. I have been unbiased the whole time. You on the other hand seem to think that forcing your opinion on someone else is actual fact. Theres only one real fact that matters in this entire thread and that fact is Pac officially won the fight in reality. This is not my or your opinion, this is actual fact he won the fight period. That's not the point of this thread though. The point of this thread was to give your unbiased opinion on who you thought won and what rounds you gave to each fighter. I created this for myself as well to see what rounds people where giving to JMM to have him up on the score cards. Round 1 and 7 are the rounds that where given to him by people who had JMM winning. I gave those rounds to Pac for the simple fact that Pac out landed JMM in both those rounds. Look at my score in the front of the thread for my opinion and scoring on the fight. It doesn't matter that I had Pac winning or if you had JMM winning, this was about unbiased opinions and which rounds you guys gave to each fighter nothing more nothing less. Just because someone doesn't have the same opinion as you doesn't mean its nuthugging. You should know what nuthugging is and who those people are as much as you post on these forums. I am not one of those people. I am a fan of boxing and both these guys are in my top 5 favorite boxers of today and get your facts straight before you accuse someone of trying to nuthug a fighter when all I did was give my opinion on it and let everyone else give theres. All I know is everytime someone posts their opinion you come out trying to convince people of things to sway their opinion. I don't mind, but then why ask for peoples opinions. Fact= Manny won , Fact= more people thought JMM won. there what more do you want.

naw man..... don't take the conversation out of context. He was talking about that night. How can you ask for unbaised opinions and yet you refuse to see that more people saw JMM winning that night. It looks like this whole thread backfired on you and the nuthugging intentions. Looks like things are back to normal somewhat. Anyways. I hate stupid comments like the one you just posted. Nuthugging intentions? Thread back fired on me? What the is that all about. I have been unbiased the whole time. You on the other hand seem to think that forcing your opinion on someone else is actual fact. Theres only one real fact that matters in this entire thread and that fact is Pac officially won the fight in reality. This is not my or your opinion, this is actual fact he won the fight period. That's not the point of this thread though. The point of this thread was to give your unbiased opinion on who you thought won and what rounds you gave to each fighter. I created this for myself as well to see what rounds people where giving to JMM to have him up on the score cards. Round 1 and 7 are the rounds that where given to him by people who had JMM winning. I gave those rounds to Pac for the simple fact that Pac out landed JMM in both those rounds. Look at my score in the front of the thread for my opinion and scoring on the fight. It doesn't matter that I had Pac winning or if you had JMM winning, this was about unbiased opinions and which rounds you guys gave to each fighter nothing more nothing less. Just because someone doesn't have the same opinion as you doesn't mean its nuthugging. You should know what nuthugging is and who those people are as much as you post on these forums. I am not one of those people. I am a fan of boxing and both these guys are in my top 5 favorite boxers of today and get your facts straight before you accuse someone of trying to nuthug a fighter when all I did was give my opinion on it and let everyone else give theres.

pac beat jmm 2x. in the first fight, pac was robbed by a judge who admitted to a scorring error. in the 2nd fight, the knockdown gave pac the victory. stop rewriting history. you're attempts at misinformation is foul

You know what makes the fact that JMM is leading this poll even more impressive? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269627 Like I said the nuthuggers keep coming out the wood work. I don't care if Pac or JMM won the poll, its the unbiased opinions I'm looking for. The facts in this thread don't matter. The fact that Pac won the fight in reality doesn't matter. The fact that most people on this board voted for JMM winning in the limited amount of time I had this poll doesn't matter. Could care less about all the facts in this dang thread. It pointless. This thread is about unbiased opinions and what rounds you gave each fighter. I'm not forcing my opinion on nobody, I'm just stating my opinion on something and leaving it that. Ive given out green k to a lot of people on this thread for both JMM opinions that I feel are unbiased and Pac opinions that I feel are unbiased. Its seems its only the nuthuggers I seem to offend. But they shouldn't be offended when all this is, is unbiased opinion on something. I like both fighters. Their both on my top 5 of current fighters fighting right now. I like everyone else would love a 3rd fight between the 2 as well.

You know what makes the fact that JMM is leading this poll even more impressive? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269627

You know what makes the fact that JMM is leading this poll even more impressive? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269627

Why bother with this thread then? If all you want to see and hear is that more people thought Pac won then there is no point in a thread. If you are going to whine and argue over it, don't do it. Also, if your answer to the fact that more people thought Marquez won is just going to be "Well, Pac officially won so none of it matters. Pac won, so there!" then don't put up a stupid thread asking who everyone thought really won and then have fits when it doesn't go the way you wanted it to go. More people thought Marquez won, but Pac won officially on the judges cards. The End. damn, it seems the nuthuggers come out the wood work. Its like you only quoted that part of me saying thats the only real fact that matter in this thread. But you didn't read the rest I wrote. This is why people can't seem to have a good conversation about boxing. I said that's not the point of this thread though. I wrote it to the guy who said something about me being a nuthugger and how the thread back fired on me, which was a pretty stupid statement. This thread was not about facts, it was about unbiased opinions and that's it. I wanted to see what peoples unbiased opinion on it, but yet it seems I get very biased opinions on it too much. Pretty sad that nuthuggery is at an all time high. Especially when I come on here and there seems to me some kind of weird groups forming. In my opinion Pac won and nothing is going to change that, but I just wanted to see what the unbiased people who scored the fight for either Pac or JMM to see what rounds they gave to each fighter. That's it. I don't force my opinions on no one, I just state my opinion on something and leave it at that. Nothing more nothing less.

I watched the fight like 6 + times and had Pac Man winning every single time. I just don't see how Marquez won that. Just want to see how many people think Pac won or Marquez without being biased. If that's even possible. Don't post much so just want to see whats you guys opinions on this great fight between the 2. Without being biased, and don't give me that well all these guys in the press row scored it for Marquez. I want your honest opinion on who you guys thought won. Only for people who watched the entire fight and not influence by biased decision. This is how I scored it Round 1 Pac 10-9 Round 2 Marquez 10-9 Round 3 Pac 10-8 ( could have been 10-7 when Marquez held himself up before the round ended ) Round 4 Pac 10-9 Round 5 Marquez 10-9 Round 6 Marquez 10-9 Round 7 Pac 10-9 Round 8 Marquez 10-9 Round 9 Pac 10-9 very close ( but pac landed a good left hand that opened a bigger cut on Marquez left eye. Landed almost the same amount with pac landing a 1 more punch but doing more damage) Round 10 Pac 10-9 Round 11 JMM 10-9 Very close round. Pac did the most damaging punches with his left hand. Could have gone either way. Round 12 Jmm 10-9 6 round to 6 with the knockdown being the difference. I got Pac winning by 1 point do to the knockdown. On another note, I really wished that Floyd would have fought someone like Berto or Collazo as a tune up so Pac and JMM could finish there unfinished business at 140. Also Fight Night Round 4 New Gameplay update on the Arcade page I have. Check it out http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267999 I watched the fight over again and this is how I seen it: R#1 10-9 Marq R#2 10-9 Marq R#3 10-8 Pac R#4 10-9 Pac R#5 10-9 Marq R#6 10-9 Marq R#7 10-9 Pac R#8 10-9 Marq R#9 10-9 Pac R#10 10-9 Pac R#11 10-9 Pac R#12 10-9 Marq 113-114 Pacquiao the winner by a point. Pacquiao just had those strong rounds #9, 10, 11 and IF he was given anything less I have to admit he would have called the police becasue he was robbed. Marquez fought a good fight and to me in that fight actually looked like the stronger of the two. I really think they need to go at it ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!

another fact. i wanna fact jessica simpson. :D

Theres only one real fact that matters in this entire thread and that fact is Pac officially won the fight in reality. Why bother with this thread then? If all you want to see and hear is that more people thought Pac won then there is no point in a thread. If you are going to whine and argue over it, don't do it. Also, if your answer to the fact that more people thought Marquez won is just going to be "Well, Pac officially won so none of it matters. Pac won, so there!" then don't put up a stupid thread asking who everyone thought really won and then have fits when it doesn't go the way you wanted it to go. More people thought Marquez won, but Pac won officially on the judges cards. The End.

What the hell is going on man. I quote you and it brings my post to the back. Anyways here it is again to your above response. They give their opinion and I give mine. That's all there is too it. RayCorey was one of those people that gave me his unbiased opinion and I was just letting him know that I thought Pac won rounds and 1 and 7, but it was a still a close fight nonetheless is what I told him. I didn't discredit him on his opinion or anything. In fact, I thanked him and gave him green K for his unbiased opinion. That's all I asked for. I'm not wrong and your not wrong, its just opinions and we can give opinions and have a good conversation or debate without resorting to call someone a nuthugger right?

All I know is everytime someone posts their opinion you come out trying to convince people of things to sway their opinion. I don't mind, but then why ask for peoples opinions. Fact= Manny won , Fact= more people thought JMM won. there what more do you want. They give their opinion and I give mine. That's all there is too it. RayCorey was one of those people that gave me his unbiased opinion and I was just letting him know that I thought Pac won rounds and 1 and 7, but it was a still a close fight nonetheless is what I told him. I didn't discredit him on his opinion or anything. In fact, I thanked him and gave him green K for his unbiased opinion. That's all I asked for. I'm not wrong and your not wrong, its just opinions and we can give opinions and have a good conversation or debate without resorting to call someone a nuthugger right?

All I know is everytime someone posts their opinion you come out trying to convince people of things to sway their opinion. I don't mind, but then why ask for peoples opinions. Fact= Manny won , Fact= more people thought JMM won. there what more do you want. They give their opinion and I give mine. That's all there is too it. RayCorey was one of those people that gave me his unbiased opinion and I was just letting him know that I thought Pac won rounds and 1 and 7, but it was a still a close fight nonetheless is what I told him. I didn't discredit him on his opinion or anything. In fact, I thanked him and gave him green K for his unbiased opinion. That's all I asked for. I'm not wrong and your not wrong, its just opinions and we can give opinions and have a good conversation or debate without resorting to call someone a nuthugger right?

pac beat jmm 2x

so you agree that there needs to be a 3rd fight because Pac did NOT beat JMM clearly remember who ducked the first fight. 30g or 850g?

so you agree that there needs to be a 3rd fight because Pac did NOT beat JMM clearly i agree that they need to settle it. it was not clear but was not a robbery either. but i dont know it will ever happen now that he is fighting mayweather

the poll is a clear indication that the fight was close and not a robbery. no daylight robbery. so you agree that there needs to be a 3rd fight because Pac did NOT beat JMM clearly

the poll is a clear indication that the fight was close and not a robbery. no daylight robbery.

As you already know, Pac is not very good in english. He can't put his words together very well which is why he always say ummm, this...ummm... you ...hmmm. And you said Manny said it himself he was lucky to win the fight. Well guess what, he said that with Dela Hoya fight too. I guess he thought he lost that fight as well right? Don't read too much into it, Pac is always a humble guy even when he wins. naw man..... don't take the conversation out of context. He was talking about that night. How can you ask for unbaised opinions and yet you refuse to see that more people saw JMM winning that night. It looks like this whole thread backfired on you and the nuthugging intentions.

That fight was a draw in my scorecard.