Okay let me say first that I sparr with mma- & bjj-guys, thaiboxers and boxers. In addition to that I'm also into internal martial arts...I know alot of you might think this is for old farts, but I can tell you the applications of taiji and so on can be realy somthing else.
Sparring in a Gi with Bjj, Sambo, Bujinkan, and Judo practioners can be a bit boring when there is not much going on for a long time because of the holding on to the Gi. In a real- or MMA- fight they would not be able to do a lot of there stuff because of punches and so on. The croud is more divers with a lot of students, white- collar-job guys etc.
No Gi Sparring with MMA- & JKD- guys and wrestlers is more fun because it's more dynamic. There you have more bouncers, bodyguards and so on. It's true that a lot of young guys atrected to the sport are bodybuilding posers. Most of them don't stay for long. Or if they do, they try to skip learning good techniques by buying more strenght, what just makes them more clumbsy. But No- Gi grappling with real good guys can be like flowting. Considering Strikes? Well, with mma-gloves you just can't work as if you had boxing gloves on. And when you look at Fedor...He is just precise from all angles. Hands down!
Muay Thai is fun and Muay Boran is very intresting. But it's true most of the guys can't punch. The reson is simple they don't have a good stance, because they have to watch out for the kicks. If your front leg is to flat on the floor you eat hard lowkicks and that ain't fun. The croud is tough! Ther are thugs, pimps, bouncers, policeman, military etc.
What is my opinion on boxing? It's just a sweat science! The boxing workout is one of the best ( with wrestling in my opinion)! Before I started boxing with some good former amateurs and boxers from the national team, I would not have thought that it's so deep and divers. With some modifications it can be a very nice self defence art. I must admit, I'm not one of the guys who likes to fight on the ground in the street. But I think you should be a round fighter and know the game.
MMA and Boxing come from the same root Pankration. All of you boxing historiens also know that before James J. Corbett boxing wasn't to scientific and before the first rules were maid it was more like brawling or unscientific mma.;)
Coming back to the internal arts...well I know a group which also fights on the hard floor (no matts). They are very scientific, too! It's just like nothing I have seen before. Some of them look like whimps, but it's a bad mistake to underestimate them as fighters. The traping range is their game and you feel so helpless. The badest thing about it is they even don't use force.
There where I'm from most of the high level martial artists know each other.
One love, brothers!:D
Just wondered what you guys thought....
Thanks!
Boxing is better than MMA for many reasons IMO
1. The ground game in MMA is boring. Most fight start as striking battles but quickly turn into ground struggles that resemble a fight between two friends who had too many shots of whiskey.
2. The striking skill level. While there is a good skill level involved for most MMA athletes. If you watch their striking and other abilities, it comes off as very amatuerish. Even the top MMA stars look like unskilled boxing tomato cans when they throw punches.
3. The MMA Athlete. A good number of MMA guys, if you look at them, resemble tough guys you see at a bar. In boxing, most of the fighters resemble elite athletes.
JMO
good post, except for the part about where athletes train. that comment is retarded. sorry to say. i dont mean to be harsh, but, there are a fair number of in shape mma guys and a fair number of out of shape boxers.
i agree with most points though. boxers tend to define their craft to jmore extremes while mma sportists take up several areas and many times are only somewhat good at just one aspect. it takes a lot, i mean a lot of time to be good at multiple arts - which is what ufc and so on are. they are sports combat which uses a multiple fighting art platform, but uses them in a sportive environment.
that is the main reason why i like boxing a bit more - the art is taken more in depth.
oh, btw, other martial arts dont exactly have tattooed white posers in it quite so much as u may think. i cant speak for the bjj/mt or kb - mma crowd though.
This post is from actual experience. At least in CA and NY, the better athletes aren't in the mma/muay thai gyms, they are at Mendez boxing, PAL, or Gleason's. It's just the truth.
Kinda like going to an NFL practice then watching 2 American Heavyweight boxers go at it. Painfully obvious why the American Heavyweight boxing scene is complete crap. The athletes have moved on to a different sport. They are playing middle linebacker for an NFL team.
The eb and flow. You can realy get caught up in the drama of boxing more. In MMA, everyone is always looking for the quick ending. You don't get the chance to get your emotions really invested in the match like boxing.
It's also good to know that the guys you are watching have probably dedicated their lives to their craft, instead of being mediocre to a couple of different martial arts.
The limitations with what you can do in a boxing match really puts an emphasis for the boxers to hone their craft to perfection... opposed to mma where it is just too ****ing sloppy. It's infuriating to watch them do stand up.
Good to know that the champions in boxing didn't just take up the sport 3 years ago like the UFC current Heavyweight Champion.
Anyone here do mma or Jiu Jitsu? I do Jiu Jitsu, but I could realy care less about MMA. I could watch a Jiu Jitsu fight all day though for the technique, but boxing will always be my first love... Hagler-Hearns FTMFW!
Go to an MMA gym or in your part of town then go to a boxing gym like I do. It's is completely evident where the real athletes train at. Don't mean to sound racist, but the ethnic people tend to train at the boxing gyms, while the Caucasians train at the tough guy image, mohawk, tatoos, affliction wearing mma/bjj/muay thai gyms.
good post, except for the part about where athletes train. that comment is retarded. sorry to say. i dont mean to be harsh, but, there are a fair number of in shape mma guys and a fair number of out of shape boxers.
i agree with most points though. boxers tend to define their craft to jmore extremes while mma sportists take up several areas and many times are only somewhat good at just one aspect. it takes a lot, i mean a lot of time to be good at multiple arts - which is what ufc and so on are. they are sports combat which uses a multiple fighting art platform, but uses them in a sportive environment.
that is the main reason why i like boxing a bit more - the art is taken more in depth.
oh, btw, other martial arts dont exactly have tattooed white posers in it quite so much as u may think. i cant speak for the bjj/mt or kb - mma crowd though.
While I find ground fighting techniques to be effective, it's just so damn boring to watch! IMO 2 guys scrapping it out over 12 rounds with brutal precision beats out 2 guys rolling on the ground and occasionally throwing some sloppy punches. Boxing also has a long history to pull from. MMA is technically still in toddler stages.
Yes but the sports a far more similar and easy to compare that baseball and football. However the question should be 'reasons why you prefer boxing to MMA'
Why is baseball better than cricket?
The eb and flow. You can realy get caught up in the drama of boxing more. In MMA, everyone is always looking for the quick ending. You don't get the chance to get your emotions really invested in the match like boxing.
It's also good to know that the guys you are watching have probably dedicated their lives to their craft, instead of being mediocre to a couple of different martial arts.
The limitations with what you can do in a boxing match really puts an emphasis for the boxers to hone their craft to perfection... opposed to mma where it is just too ****ing sloppy. It's infuriating to watch them do stand up.
Good to know that the champions in boxing didn't just take up the sport 3 years ago like the UFC current Heavyweight Champion.
Anyone here do mma or Jiu Jitsu? I do Jiu Jitsu, but I could realy care less about MMA. I could watch a Jiu Jitsu fight all day though for the technique, but boxing will always be my first love... Hagler-Hearns FTMFW!
Go to an MMA gym or in your part of town then go to a boxing gym like I do. It's is completely evident where the real athletes train at. Don't mean to sound racist, but the ethnic people tend to train at the boxing gyms, while the Caucasians train at the tough guy image, mohawk, tatoos, affliction wearing mma/bjj/muay thai gyms.
Hatton isn't the only guy that clinches. I bet you hate the majority of top boxers of this generation. I also take it you think Bernard was the gayest boxer alive in the Calzaghe fight correct?
Bernard Hopkins is like 45 yrs old, he has an excuse on why he clinches as much as he does now. If you seen his older fights he didn't fight like that always. Young ricky hatton has no excuse.
Saying MMA is gay cause of the wrestling on the floor is pretty stupid IMO. Guess that makes boxing gay too cause of clinching?
Hatton is gay, that is why I don't like him.
mma, there always on the floor huggin, shit gets aggravating.
boxing has a certain mistic about it, boxing has produced legends from ali to rocky balboa lol its a sport that will never die, because it has capured the imagination of people. the thought that you can come from nothing and become a champ. MMA is just a bunch of out of shape guys humping, nuthin special bout it.
C'mon. It's a combat sport, how can you not like it? Or K-1? I love them all. Boxing is my favorite, but I don't see how you can't like all forms of combat sports, or at least respect them.
my problem with it is there are basically no rules. its like a glorified street fight. I mean you can choke ppl out, forearm, elbow, knee, stomp on their feet etc.
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