Haye is way overrated and it will get MUCH worse should he happen to land a lucky punch during his bums rush, which is his only chance IMO. Once Wlad is warmed up he will dominate this fight!
Haye would lose to many of Wlad's opponents and that's why Haye didn't attempt to earn his title shot. After the Wlad fight Haye will be a "blown up cruiserweight with a glass chin" and WK will get ZERO credit here for the win just like every other win he's had!
There's a pattern on NSB. Pick every opponent to beat the fighter you dislike for whatever reason and if you're right you're a genius and when wrong as usual, just make a million excuses...
Its difficult to tell if he is overrated because he hasnt faced a top heavyweight yet once he faces Wlad we will know how good he is.
It doesn't work like that in the lower weight classes, so what makes the Heavyweight division any different?
Haye was the undisputed Cruiserweight champion and moved up and got a title shot straight away. It happens all the time in the lower weight classes.
Many fighters over 200 prefer to dry themselves and fight in CW than in HW...
Maybe because the difference in weight between CW and HW is much bigger than between any lower weight categories...
Maybe for this reason Holyfield became the only Cruiserweight who managed to fight in HWs on the top level...
It happens very often in the lower classes and the outcome is often difficult to predict cause the difference is not so big... It happens pretty often that CW come up to HW and the outcome is usually easy to predict, cause the difference in weight is enormous...
Haye is way overrated and it will get MUCH worse should he happen to land a lucky punch during his bums rush, which is his only chance IMO. Once Wlad is warmed up he will dominate this fight!
Haye would lose to many of Wlad's opponents and that's why Haye didn't attempt to earn his title shot. After the Wlad fight Haye will be a "blown up cruiserweight with a glass chin" and WK will get ZERO credit here for the win just like every other win he's had!
There's a pattern on NSB. Pick every opponent to beat the fighter you dislike for whatever reason and if you're right you're a genius and when wrong as usual, just make a million excuses...
It doesn't work like that in the lower weight classes, so what makes the Heavyweight division any different?
Haye was the undisputed Cruiserweight champion and moved up and got a title shot straight away. It happens all the time in the lower weight classes.
Haye is way overrated and it will get MUCH worse should he happen to land a lucky punch during his bums rush, which is his only chance IMO. Once Wlad is warmed up he will dominate this fight!
Haye would lose to many of Wlad's opponents and that's why Haye didn't attempt to earn his title shot. After the Wlad fight Haye will be a "blown up cruiserweight with a glass chin" and WK will get ZERO credit here for the win just like every other win he's had!
There's a pattern on NSB. Pick every opponent to beat the fighter you dislike for whatever reason and if you're right you're a genius and when wrong as usual, just make a million excuses...
Its difficult to tell how he would do against those guys until we see him fight Wlad, you cant really rate someone until you actualy see him in a tough fight in that weight class.
Wlad was the first guy to hammer Mercer; nobody had come close up to 02. And that was pre Manny.
Mock, Mormeck, Carl Thompson, all had Haye robot dancing and they were chucking confetti at him. :wave:
Mercer blew hot and cold at his peak and he didn't improve with age.
Going to be an interesting 3 rounder this one, can't put my finger on why but I might have a few bob on Haye. Certainly got a punchers chance and that might be enough for this one.
Yeh, and he was eating those right straights for 11 rounds just for the paychek :) No will at all...
Thread:
Sultan Ibragimov
Chris Byrd
Hasim Rahman (he would be enough :) )
Lamon Brewster
Worse then Haye in resume but would give him a good fight:
Calvin Brock
Ray Austin
Tony Thompson
Jameel McCline (n the beginning of 2000s, when he wasn`t "lose to anybody" yet)
Ray Mercer (Yes, that old...)
Oh please....
Sultan Ibraginov. Totally one paced one dimensional club fighter who leads with his face
Chris Byrd. Couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding
Hassim Rahman. Has been Rahman.. Last seen taking flying lessons
Lamon Brewster. Throws wild bombs then starts blowing feathers & gives up
Calvin Brock. Spoon fed on a diet of bums
Ray Austin. Fall guy with no defence
Tony Thompson The Tiger with no teeth & no desire
Jameel McCline Big time Charley
Ray Mercer Last seen on UFC getting owned by a back yard brawler
Only Ibraginov would stand a remote chance of going beyond 6 rounds, because Haye is a highly trained athlete that has a will to win.. Most of the above have already proved otherwise and can be easily evaluated..
hahahaha you make me laugh, your list is all wrong imo.
you really think tony tompson wud be haye?
tony t would beat haye imo. too big and awckward for haye
David Haye would destroy most on the list that you produced, Tony Thompson fought Klitchsko as if he had no will to win, as if he had no heart. David Haye is a real fighter who would have destroyed the tony thompson who climbed ion the ring to fight wlad just for his paycheck.
Yeh, and he was eating those right straights for 11 rounds just for the paychek :) No will at all...
Thread:
Sultan Ibragimov
Chris Byrd
Hasim Rahman (he would be enough :) )
Lamon Brewster
Worse then Haye in resume but would give him a good fight:
Calvin Brock
Ray Austin
Tony Thompson
Jameel McCline (n the beginning of 2000s, when he wasn`t "lose to anybody" yet)
Ray Mercer (Yes, that old...)
Haye bein a CW who's moved up is an advantage, cuz he''ll have some speed to go wit his power. I still think Wlad KO's him tho. No way to really gauge how Haye will do based on guys Wlad has faced before.
Ray Mercer in 2002 was way past hes prime. so lol on that
Not many, Sultan Ibragimov maybe
Wlad was the first guy to hammer Mercer; nobody had come close up to 02. And that was pre Manny.
Mock, Mormeck, Carl Thompson, all had Haye robot dancing and they were chucking confetti at him. :wave:
Who would you rather fight? Monte Barrett or Thompson? Knowing that both of them probably guarentee you a shot at one of the K bros?
You cannot be certain Haye would lose to Thompson.
I rather fight Thompson. A big heavyweight who would have prepared me better to fight Klitschko.
Ray Mercer was still tough and durable in 2002. He's won many fights since then.
And he was a year younger than Carl Thompson was, when he stopped Haye! :lol1:
Haye was pretty green at that time I dont think thats a fair comparison. I would only give Ibragimov a shot at beating him as well