he'd fought everyone Oscar did?
Oscar: 39 Wins 6 Losses 0 Draws
Floyd: 39 Wins 0 Losses 0 Draws
Meaning if he'd fought:
Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Bernard Hopkins
Manny Pacquiao
and did everything to the tee that Oscar did (i.e. moving up to middleweight to fight BHop) how would he fair?
I have him beating BHop & Felix by decision (moving up to middle for BHop wouldnt effect him that much)
And a 2000 154 Shane & Manny both being fireworks, both especially Pacquiao would force him to fight... i think he'd decision Shane, and with Pacquiao he'd land the cleaner blows to take a decision, maybe even stop him on cuts
LOL at you having him beating Hopkins
prime Trinidad vs Mayweather is a toss up because floyd has a tendency to try to be cute standing in front of his opponents with his shoulder rolling which would get him KO'd with Trinidad's power or eventually he would have floyd running like a bitch like oscar did and if history is any indication trinidad gets the decision lol.
prime mosley and pac are also tossups.
i sense angst in your post... theres hate in your heart for money may huh?
"i dont see how its a "no-brainer", im not too quick to just say "oh Hopkins destroys him" cuz i dont remember the last time Hopkins destroyed anyone"
Missed the Tarver and Pavlik fights eh? try the video block.
id say he "embarrassed" them more so than he "destroyed" them
Other than B-HOP being 6-1 and a defensive master in his own right and both being counter punchers and the fact that Floyd doesnt put together to much offense and that B-HOP seems to only have a problem with high output fighters,theres no reason!!Since we are at it,who has floyd fought,to compare to say,Mosley,Trinidad,B-Hop,Ike,Vargas or Pacman!!!Floyds skill have only been tested by an old DeLaHoya,whom he barely beat!!
excellent post.
floyd possibly beats tito
tito by brutal ko in 9rds
floyd probably beats mosley
mosley by tko in 10rds
floyd loses to hopkins
i can't compare both but hopkins by brutal ko
floyd beats pac
don't think so
LOL at you having him beating Hopkins
prime Trinidad vs Mayweather is a toss up because floyd has a tendency to try to be cute standing in front of his opponents with his shoulder rolling which would get him KO'd with Trinidad's power or eventually he would have floyd running like a bitch like oscar did and if history is any indication trinidad gets the decision lol.
prime mosley and pac are also tossups.
"mosley loses to mayweather"
Please go away. Try ESB they like utter cockslops.
mayweather's wanted shane for years, dummy.
there was an excuse everytime......why?
in regards to Floyd vs. BHop @ 160
i dont see how its a "no-brainer", im not too quick to just say "oh Hopkins destroys him" cuz i dont remember the last time Hopkins destroyed anyone
and with the skill sets Floyd has i def think he has more than a chance, im not about to just throw Floyd under the bus because Bernards 6-1.. so what!!
if your looking for a size comparison here...
http://images.stltoday.com/stltoday/resources/delahoya625dec5.jpg
thats what it'd be similar too and we all know what difference size made that night
Common you think Floyd beats a prime 147 Oscar, Mosley, Tito?
i was talking about the fight dlh and floyd actually had....
tito is much bigger than floyd, but i think floyd could easily "outbox" him....
mosley loses to mayweather.
Hopkins is far to big for Floyd. His reach, his weight, his ability, he would't have that much problem taking out Floyd. Possibly Shane beats Floyd to but i'm not sure about that one.
B-Hop is bigger, simple as that. B-Hop will beat him both inside and out...P4P, it'd be another story, I wouldn't be able to make a pick.
ok
Other than B-HOP being 6-1 and a defensive master in his own right and both being counter punchers and the fact that Floyd doesnt put together to much offense and that B-HOP seems to only have a problem with high output fighters,theres no reason!!Since we are at it,who has floyd fought,to compare to say,Mosley,Trinidad,B-Hop,Ike,Vargas or Pacman!!!Floyds skill have only been tested by an old DeLaHoya,whom he barely beat!!
thats a good point... Chico was 5′ 10½″ and had reports of being taller but i def see what your saying... size can definitely play a big roll
then again you can look at examples like Paul Williams (6′ 1″) and Quintana (5′ 9½″), if they dont know how to use that size it doesnt make a difference
Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Bernard Hopkins
Manny Pacquiao
At 147 I'd pick him over Felix, but there's certainly a chance for Mr boat buyer to be KTFO. At 147 prime SSM beats him. At 160 Bhop winnin is a no brainer. At 147 he KO's Pac handily.
Hopkins kills him in 3rds.
Tito at 147 and Mosley at 147 beat him.
Floyd scrapped a SD against a past it Oscar.
that split decision garage was nonsense.....
oscar won 3, maybe 4 rounds of that fight.......
even max kellerman said, giving oscar 5 rounds was stretching it, but for ANYONE to have oscar winning that fight was ridiculous....i concur.
its funny how ppl try to discredit floyd, in a fight in which all the cards were stacked against him, not the least of which was moving UP, fighting in a weight he had never fought at before, but in a fight he CLEARLY won......all b/c we had 1 rogue judge...:lol1:
Other than B-HOP being 6-1 and a defensive master in his own right and both being counter punchers and the fact that Floyd doesnt put together to much offense and that B-HOP seems to only have a problem with high output fighters,theres no reason!!Since we are at it,who has floyd fought,to compare to say,Mosley,Trinidad,B-Hop,Ike,Vargas or Pacman!!!Floyds skill have only been tested by an old DeLaHoya,whom he barely beat!!
Mayweather beating B-Hop NOT HAPPENING. In a P4P match up, I couldn't make a pick but listen back to the subject. He'll beat Tito, Shane, Pac but I believe he'll lose to Ike and I'm damn sure he'll lose to B-Hop.
what problems do you see bhop givin floyd?