All this Bullshit about Floyd being too small to fight the top welterweights because he is outweighed on fight night is just an excuse to avoid the REAL challenges.
Oscar outweighed Floyd by 10 pounds on fight night. Why is it OK for Oscar to outweigh Floyd but not Cotto?
I'll tell you why, it's because Oscar was old and Cotto is in his PRIME.
The stupidity of the Flomos always amazes me. :lol1:
Excuse after Excuse after Excuse...
Nobody is saying he shouldnt have fought Oscar
The question is why you guys brag about FLoyd beating a JMW with no problem, but when it comes to a top WW, FLoyd is too small?
Once again..for the 1 million time.
THE 1 HUGE PROBLEM THAT ALL FLOYD FANS SHARE IS THIS:
Floyd fans have no problem with floyd fighting Other WW's...
The problem is that People saying he can ONLY fight Welterweights for it to be a legitimate fight and win, when he himself is not really a welterweight compare to the rest of the welterweights...
People say all he has to fight a real WW and nobody else..!!!
thats what make floyd fans feel like you guys are bing hypocritical....
and plus..
Floyd has already become lineal WW champion of the world.
I Didnt see people having a problem with Middleweight Hopkins Fighting a jr.middleweight De La hoya at the time instead of a top middleweight
I Didnt see people having with A jr. Middleweight Oscar De La Hoya Fighting a small welterweight in Mayweather at the time instead of a top jr.middleweight
I Didnt see people having with Middleweight Marvin Hagler Fighting a jr. Middleweight in Thomas Hearns at the time instead of a top middleweight
Why is that Mosely& Cotto can call out Pacquaio and Hatton but Floyd can't?
(which he still havent did)
Why cant Floyd fight people his own size and even smaller then him when he himself is a small dude fighting bigger dudes all the time is my point...
People get mad because I apply the standards on other fighters that they apply to Floyd...but my whole thing is dont be a hypocrite.
If you think it is Cool for Pacquaio to fight Hatton...Then you should think it's Cool For Pacquaio to fight Floyd...
If you think It's cool for Floyd to fight Paul Williams, then you should think it's cool for Floyd to fight somebody has tremendous physical advantages over...
You get my point.... DONT MAKE SPECIAL RULES for Floyd and not everybody else. thats been my problem from day 1.
DOUBLE STANDARDS
So you are saying Williams-Quintana 1 and 2 were legit beatdowns for both people.... then why does williams get the rematch and quintana doesnt?
No kidding, if neither one was a fluke, why not a third fight? Especially when you claim everyone is ducking you, why not fight the only guy to ever beat you? Why does the second fight always carry more weight than the first? What if two guys are perfectly evenly matched and they win one fight a piece?
All this Bullshit about Floyd being too small to fight the top welterweights because he is outweighed on fight night is just an excuse to avoid the REAL challenges.
Oscar outweighed Floyd by 10 pounds on fight night. Why is it OK for Oscar to outweigh Floyd but not Cotto?
I'll tell you why, it's because Oscar was old and Cotto is in his PRIME.
The stupidity of the Flomos always amazes me. :lol1:
Excuse after Excuse after Excuse...
Co-sign homey. Mr boat buyer could fight Leila Ali and his cocksuckers on here would be cool wit it. No SSM or Cotto tho.
Why does one of them have to be a fluke?
When your beat down by the person you already beat, that is no fluke. When you get completely schooled, that is no fluke either. If this was the case, then every single rematch in history is a fluke.
So you are saying Williams-Quintana 1 and 2 were legit beatdowns for both people.... then why does williams get the rematch and quintana doesnt?
Why does one of them have to be a fluke?
When your beat down by the person you already beat, that is no fluke. When you get completely schooled, that is no fluke either. If this was the case, then every single rematch in history is a fluke.
If in one fight you thoroughly outbox the guy for 12 rounds, are never hurt, stunned or knocked down in all of those 12 rounds. The next fight a few months later you get caught cold in the 1st and stopped. One of them has to be a fluke. Logic dictates which one.
Only one of them can be a fluke, dude. You said the second one couldn't have been. Guess what that means?
Why does one of them have to be a fluke?
When your beat down by the person you already beat, that is no fluke. When you get completely schooled, that is no fluke either. If this was the case, then every single rematch in history is a fluke.
How I contradicted myself?
I neve knocked Floyd for going for the big money fights,(Oscar,Hatton) that was understandable. he shit in him because of what he is doing right know, that he have done his whole caier and thats cherry pick oponents, when he knows theirs no risk.
Can you say the same about Cotto? hell naw
So, if you Ko a person in one round, that means he cant hang with you, because it wasnt a fluke. But schooling a guy for 12 rounds doesnt prove shit and is a fluke?
GTFO!!!!!!!!!
If you didn't contradict yourself then why say Floyd should fight a tune up with WW fighters. All the big money names either have a fight comming up or already fought. Mosley isn't going to fight Floyd, so we all need to get over that matchup. Floyd doesn't need to go looking for WWs, if they want to fight then come to him. Like you said about Cotto-Williams right?
Cotto has cherry picked fights. Then he takes a chance and gets KTFO and no one wants to accept it. Their hearts are too broken to accept that he loss.
Which one came first? Match 1; inexperience. Match 2; more knowledgable. Therefore I will always judge Williams-Quintana by the rematch. When Quintana gets his name back up the ranks and fights Williams in the rubber match. Then my opinion will change. Until then, Williams bested Quintana. Not by decision but KO.
I never said Williams-Quintana I was a fluke. Williams lost period. Thats the way it is. He lost.
Only one of them can be a fluke, dude. You said the second one couldn't have been. Guess what that means?
This thread is the equivalent to someone saying
Why are you complaining about paying 400 dollars to rent this jeep...
when you paid 400 dollars to rent the benz..
or
Why are complaining about about paying $10 to get into at my house party..
When didnt complain about paying $10 to get into Playboy Mansion Party..
Everybody in boxing would fight Oscar de la hoya over cotto...
Especially a Oscar de la hoya who was the #1 ranked fighter @ 154 and the WBC champion.
This thread is classic.
Cotto has avoided alot of fighters. Then he accepts a risky one and gets OWNED. Then excuses get made up about it. I respect him but alot of his fans are retards. I actually was willing to bet that he would beat Clottey until he got all these distractions.
Not making an excuse. He was schooled the first fight. However, Williams got the rematch in a clear cut fashion. A rubber match could be issued but Quintana has to build his name back up.
But he didnt avoid shane mosley or zab judah or margarito, then he loses to margarito but cotto doesnt just shy away from any other risky fight he still takes clottey... And you mean the excuse of having ****ing plaster in his glove, are you trying to say that that was just made up
But quintana gave williams the rematch right away without williams "building his name back up" but even with quintana calling williams out he didnt give him the fight
No one gets clearly out boxed over 12 rounds over 12 rounds and it be a fluke. When Oliver McCall (journeyman) sparked out Lennox Lewis (top 5 ATG HW) in under 2, was it a fluke?
I never said Williams-Quintana I was a fluke. Williams lost period. Thats the way it is. He lost.
You cant say cotto has ducked anyone he has fought margarito and now clottey two very risky fighters give him some credit.
Why does Williams get the excuse he had an off night the first fight but Quintana doesnt get that excuse for the second fight... double standards again?
Cotto has avoided alot of fighters. Then he accepts a risky one and gets OWNED. Then excuses get made up about it. I respect him but alot of his fans are retards. I actually was willing to bet that he would beat Clottey until he got all these distractions.
Not making an excuse. He was schooled the first fight. However, Williams got the rematch in a clear cut fashion. A rubber match could be issued but Quintana has to build his name back up.
Look at what you said. Now look at everything you say about Mayweather. You contradict yourself. You sir are a failure.
ps. No one gets KTFO in the 1st and it be a fluke.
No one gets clearly out boxed over 12 rounds over 12 rounds and it be a fluke. When Oliver McCall (journeyman) sparked out Lennox Lewis (top 5 ATG HW) in under 2, was it a fluke?
Williams and goosen are the ones who needs to knock the door, who is the draw and have bigger things to do than fight Williams. Bring on the Benjamins and he will fight him too.
Quintana Schools his ass. Anybody can catch somebody and KO him!!!!!
Look at what you said. Now look at everything you say about Mayweather. You contradict yourself. You sir are a failure.
ps. No one gets KTFO in the 1st and it be a fluke.
Oscar de la hoya = Face of Boxing
Cotto = New York & Pueto Rico local.
You are the guy at the club who ask why does P.diddy get in for free and not me...
LOL....
lol @ the comparing cotto to oscar
So you honestly think a 34 yo Oscar, with one fight in over 2 1/2 years, with one win in his last 4 fights (who really thinks he beat Sturm?) was a bigger challenge than the undefeated, prime Miguel Cotto? I suppose you think Pac could dominate WW based on his win over Oscar as well?
Calling him out in just about every interview is enough. why hasn't Arum and Cotto come knocking?
He KTFO Quintana in the 1st. GTFO. Williams is on a whole nother level now.
Its not okay. No one approved of Judah fouling Floyd. So damn desperate he had to intentionally foul like he did. Its trash.
You cant say cotto has ducked anyone he has fought margarito and now clottey two very risky fighters give him some credit.
Why does Williams get the excuse he had an off night the first fight but Quintana doesnt get that excuse for the second fight... double standards again?
All this Bullshit about Floyd being too small to fight the top welterweights because he is outweighed on fight night is just an excuse to avoid the REAL challenges.
Oscar outweighed Floyd by 10 pounds on fight night. Why is it OK for Oscar to outweigh Floyd but not Cotto?
I'll tell you why, it's because Oscar was old and Cotto is in his PRIME.
The stupidity of the Flomos always amazes me. :lol1:
Excuse after Excuse after Excuse...
i don't get it... floyd will probably fight the cotto/mosley winner in 2010.
First Cotto is not ducking Williams. Wheres the offer from goosen?
Second why Williams is ducking Quintana
Third why is OK, for Judah to low blow FLoyd
Calling him out in just about every interview is enough. why hasn't Arum and Cotto come knocking?
He KTFO Quintana in the 1st. GTFO. Williams is on a whole nother level now.
Its not okay. No one approved of Judah fouling Floyd. So damn desperate he had to intentionally foul like he did. Its trash.
Oscar de la hoya = Face of Boxing
Cotto = New York & Pueto Rico local.
You are the guy at the club who ask why does P.diddy get in for free and not me...
LOL....
lol @ the comparing cotto to oscar
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