In order for a great fighter to emerge they have to...

just because you beat both K sisters convincingly doesn't make you great. brewster and sanders beat Wlad and they ain't great. byrd beat Vitaly and he ain't great. you sorely overrate teh K sisters. Very true...

Defeat one of the Klitschko's and do it convincingly. The reason that there are no good fighters today is not because the fighters are not good, its because none of them can defeat the Klitschko's. If Holyfield never got beat by Riddick Bowe, Moorer, or Lewis and reigned dominant throughout the 90's, then the same thing would have been said about that division, that it was filled with bums. And this is the reason most people are clinging to Haye, because they believe he is the one who will become great or in turn make the Klitschko's great by giving them an everlasting rivalry. just because you beat both K sisters convincingly doesn't make you great. brewster and sanders beat Wlad and they ain't great. byrd beat Vitaly and he ain't great. you sorely overrate teh K sisters.

There is talent in the HW division, the problem is we're not getting the fights we want. And as much as I wanted Holyfield to beat Valuev, Val wasn't a real title holder, just keeping it warm while Chagaev was out with his Hepatitis or whatever he has.

There are good fighters in the heavyweights today. It's just that they have an underserving sense of self-entitlement. If the top contenders fight one another (and I'm including the Klits in this) on a regular basis then will could potentially have a great fighter. At this moment, there are NO GREAT FIGHTERS in the heavyweight ranks. Wladimir and Vitali are two really good fighters in an era of mediocre fighters. The young guys like Dimitrenko, Povetkin, Solis, Chambers, Pala, Platov, Boytsov, Wilder, Johnson, and Arreola have the potential to bring us to at least the heyday of the 80's heavyweights and if we're lucky, maybe the 90's or 70's eras. And the author of this thread put up one of the dumbest boxing post I have ever read. I have pity on him to be honest.

Simply beatin 1 of the K bros won't make Haye or any HW fighter great.

Defeat one of the Klitschko's and do it convincingly. The reason that there are no good fighters today is not because the fighters are not good, its because none of them can defeat the Klitschko's. If Holyfield never got beat by Riddick Bowe, Moorer, or Lewis and reigned dominant throughout the 90's, then the same thing would have been said about that division, that it was filled with bums. And this is the reason most people are clinging to Haye, because they believe he is the one who will become great or in turn make the Klitschko's great by giving them an everlasting rivalry. I'm going to have to disagree with that dude. I genuinely feel that the standard of challengers at HW right now is pretty atrocious. When an ancient version of Holyfield gets robbed from winning a belt you know things are not good. I am not saying the Klitschkos are not great fighters, they are, and I am a fan of both, especially VK. What I am saying is that noone around now even comes close. There aren't even competitive fights out there right now the Klitschkos are so far ahead. THat means that basically, there are no potentially great fighters at Heavy right now with the exception of the Klitschkos.