what could they have fought in their careers to make you think they are better?
they could have fought evander holyfield and mike tyson, albeit way past their primes, but big names dont necessarily translate to big wins.
in the future, klitschko's KO of david haye may mean nothing i fhe gest knocked out another 4 times. (very possible) however, right now it would be a very big win, and should always be considered a big win, as many peple consider haye a legitimate threat and a good fighter.
ok, so potatoes says they are not so good? what is not so good?
to hlep you guys articulate, im going to say vitali and wladimir would beat muhammad ali, george foreman, joe louis, and mike tyson. why wouldn't he? Note - i don't necessarily think this is true, i just want to know how these fighters could expose any so called weaknesses in vitali and wladimir.
y is that? why arent they so good inside the ring? Most of their fights end in KO's?
Yes, but most of their fights have been easy. You should expect KO's because of whom they have been lucky enough to face. The greatness of a fighter is determined by the manner in which he deals with adversity. Neither Klitschko is very good at that, but Wladimir has shown in the past that he is one of the most vulnerable beltholders in the history of the division. If Dave Haye comes to fight you will see Wladimir fall apart yet again.
The brothers Klitschko have had successful careers based on good management and good luck. Their professionalism is beyond question and outside the ring they are everything you could ask from a champion. Inside the ring they are not so great.
y is that? why arent they so good inside the ring? Most of their fights end in KO's?
what could they have fought in their careers to make you think they are better?
they could have fought evander holyfield and mike tyson, albeit way past their primes, but big names dont necessarily translate to big wins.
in the future, klitschko's KO of david haye may mean nothing i fhe gest knocked out another 4 times. (very possible) however, right now it would be a very big win, and should always be considered a big win, as many peple consider haye a legitimate threat and a good fighter.
The brothers Klitschko have had successful careers based on good management and good luck. Their professionalism is beyond question and outside the ring they are everything you could ask from a champion. Inside the ring they are not so great.
Sorry,Its not just the american press.One of his biggest fights was against spinks and he won that in emphatic fashion,but the rot set in not long after it and the long and the short of it is that Tyson wasted his talent and didnt have the courage or character to get himself back on track.The Klitschkos have made the best of what they have,but Wlad bores me to f.ucking tears! Vitali on the other hand is superb.
"Boring" should not take away from his accomplishments.. and that is the problem.. Not liking how he wins should not detract from the fact he won.. or that he won by KO..
at the end of the day the point is to win.. and that he does..
The way to win is to Hit and not get hit.. and he does that extremely well..
Bernard Hopkins is as boring as fuck to watch.. Kelly Pavlik?? jab jab Right.. all fucking night long.. Winky Wright.. Jab Jab.. Cover Jab Cover.. All fucking night long.. yet they get respect anyway..
The problem with The Klits.. is that they get NO RESPECT.. and it's pretty glaring when other fighters who have Quit,Lost,Fought cautiously, Fought Boringly or have a Non crown pleasing style do NOT catch the same criticisms as the Klits do...
It seems the one or two bad things you can say about them seem to discredit the many good things you can say about them.. and NO OTHER boxer.. except maybe Floyd Mayweather has that problem..
Cats only hate on the K bros, or at least on Wlad for bein boring. There ain't been a lotta big stars around while they've been prominent, so it's hard to knock em for their resumes. Wlad beat Lamon 2nd time around, but he gets shit for not facin Sanders or Ross Purrity again.
The irony of him having the american press behind him is that he is a filthy convicted sex case!
That said,I can definitely see what welter is getting at though.
Good press bad press.. In America it equals the same thing.. and in fact it's almost better sometimes to be Infamous...
Tyson has reached "legend" status world wide.. It's not easy to dispel or suplant a legend.
statements like this is what gets them hated on......pure ignorance
The funny thing is... If you really examine it.. It's not so far fetched..
Tyson also had a very weak Division when he dominated.. His best wins coming against a faded champ and a Cruiserweight.. He lost fights he had no business losing also.. He has less successful title defenses and more title fight losses than Wlad..
Tyson just has the benefit of the American press behind him..
no1 hates them but some of there fans on here r deluded and very sad,also the contract that they offered haye is absolutely ridiculous and that beyond argument
If Wlad wins.. things wont change.. except that Haye will be the new "bum of the month".. who didn't "fight the right fight" and was always a "overrated, weak chinned, poor stamina former cruiser weight who had no business being there"
If Haye wins however.. The same people who claim Wlad is the worst Champ of all time.. a Robot, weak chinned etc... wil Now Claim that Haye is perhaps worthy of a top 10 ATG status on this win alone..
When it comes to Klit haters.. hypocrisy is God!!!
I rank both of the brothers above tyson, I don't give a **** what anyone says. But I can't see many people disagreeing. Tyson was a huge underachiever, entertaining style but lost in his biggest fights.
I don't like the Klitchkos but I'm definatley not a hater. I admit they have skills and I admit that they are dominate. The only thing that I have a problem with is that they are champions in a era that they have been largely untested. Is it their fault.....no, but it's kind of hard to gauge where they stand amongst the all time greats.
If wlad wins, people won't stop shitting on him. Btw, he is the more boring of the two brothers. Vitali used to be entertaining before he retired, but ever since he came back his fights just don't seem as exciting. The two brothers are getting old and they fight even more cautious now, I don't hold it against them since they both were quite entertaining at one time.