David Haye: Dream Fight At A Cost?

I heard that Haye was going to kick Wladimir RIGHT IN THE CUNT. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258255 That's a misquote by a very childish poster.

I heard that Haye was going to kick Wladimir RIGHT IN THE CUNT. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258255

That is utter shambles by the K fairies. War Haye

Haye has sacrificed alot to get this fight, it proves he wasn't looking for a pay day and really is only interested in being a Heavy Weight World Champion. Haye is the kind of fighter that not only the heavyweight division but boxing in general needs. I really truly feel sorry for him because Wlad really screwed him with this double rematch clause in the contract and with the unfair split of revenue. Wlad really tried to buy himself out of this fight. He expected haye to not accept the ridiculous terms so that he could claim that Haye is the one not accepting the fight. But haye manned up and I really hope Haye teaches wlad a good lesson and knocks his head clear off. Girls like Wlad are ruining boxing.

I'm a Klit (Vitali not Wlad) fan and I do feel sorry for Haye they did make him jump through hoops. But lets not forget Haye wasn't even ranked well in HW with 2 HW fights only - this is the price he must pay for jumping to the top of the pile and fighting the no.1 HW - everyone else has to work for their shot Haye used his mouth - he hasn't earnt this shot ergo he must give a few concessions.

What a joke. First of all, of course this loud mouth Cockney on Setanta is going to bend the truth to defend another loud mouthed Cockney. Bend the truth in what way?

I wonder why the brothers always seem to avenge each others losses rather then avenging the loss themself.. it doesn't redeem the loss if it's your brother who does it. He's got to rematch Wlad. Then if he beats Wlad twice he's got to fight Vitali. (Or optionally he can fight them in the reverse order, but the point is that Wlad will try to avenge the loss if he loses). But Haye would've wanted to fight Vitali in any case - my only real issue with the contract is that the three fights with the two Klitschkos have to be successive fights, which means he can't fight any mandatories in the meantime, which means that even if he won all three fights he would almost certainly be stripped of the IBF and WBO titles. That's what I think stinks about the contract.

Am I supposed to give a fuck if you read or not, whoever you are? Is your approval required here? Surrrrrrrrrrre, my 600+ posts since December have really taken up more bandwidth than the shiteloads of spam posted by halfwit cunts like you. Whatever you say. Your beef is, somebody just presented an alternative to your crumby agenda, and did it with reason. You read every word diligently and twisted your ugly face up in a bitter little frown, or else you wouldn't even have quoted it to claim you didn't read. What?? I ain't got no beef, son.

I saw on one article it said they are also getting part of the UK money. They are. Or rather, Wlad is. (See here) But Haye will still make his biggest ever purse, of several million. And he's not yet done much at heavyweight, so I don't think he can complain too much on that score. He was screwed on the rematch clauses though, but it was a voluntary defence and the Klitschkos held all the bargaining chips.

when i first seen the rematch clauses i thought well it aint that bad since he wanted to fight them both anyways . but now that i see this money breakdown and how hard haye is getting shafted ( no homo ) it kind of makes you want to root for him . and i was impartial before this .

Are you serious? Wow. You've really been seduced. He doesn't need to pretend he's a businessman. He is a businessman. Adam Booth (roughly, from memory) - "the Klitschkos are smart businessmen who control their own destinies, and so are we" He's pretty much saying that the Klitschkos are what they wish to emulate. K2's is the door Hayemaker is knocking on in more ways than one. They want in on the action. Christ, Haye was even looking up at Vitali with puppy dog eyes that night, like "look what I just did!", like he wanted approval from his daddy. The whole thing is pretty cute, really. So Haye wouldn't be as ruthless and determined to eke out whatever edge he could if the roles were reversed? Everybody conveniently forgot the allegations of shitty, unprofessional treatment at the hands of Hayemaker Promotions made by Monte Barrett? LMAO L M A O LOL I crammed all my shit into one post exactly because I can't be arsed to go round repeating the same stuff ad nauseum in every thread or making 50+ posts every day like so many do. I defend any fighters I think are getting unwarranted crap. Bored of the partylines is all. And I just find the idea that Haye is a selfless paragon of virtue in this risible. He had no choice but to sign, he doesn't have anywhere else to go, he has specific personal interests in coming to the division. He isn't in a contender mindstate, hungry to fight whoever's put in front of him, one fight at a time. If people put themselves in Klitschko shoes, it's easy to see why they're looking at it with a cynical eye. They have no reason to respect him or do him any favors. They have every reason to guard their own interests, knowing they have what Haye wants. If Haye does as he says he's gonna do and bombs Wlad the fuck out, then he's got power of his own. Who was he going to fight after Wlad? Likely Wlad rematch, if Wlad insisted. Then his other stated target, the elder brother. Unless he was gonna fight one of those "plodding little fat men". Or retire straight away. Hi, Ray. Way I see it is, if he already had the profile to match his ambition, more pressure would be on the Klits in all senses. But Haye doesn't have a Hatton/Calzaghe status...yet. Hardcore boxing fans are desperate for some excitement, so they're pinning their hopes on this guy. Haye desperately wants to shortcut his way to a shot, and the K2Klan can and will hold him to ransom, knowing how the event could make sense and knowing that Haye is desperate enough to meet whatever terms they put in front of him. He still gets his best payday. The Calzaghe/Hatton situations aren't exact parallels of each other or this situation. There are nuances. But there was a certain sense of relative parity between the camps in both those you mentioned. Realistically, there is no parity between the Hayemaker and K2 camps. But, whatever. If Haye doesn't deliver something really hott at the end of this, Wlad will get small credit for KO'ing him and all this uproar and polemic over a contract will look ridiculous in that context. People just need to enjoy themselves and look forward to the fight. You talk to much, and waste to much space in this forum. I havn't even read it, caus I can't be arsed. Wasting your time, mate.

Wow. Let's go David. :boxing:

the K sisters know that Haye is a threat to them that's why they've taken every precaution to make sure they cash in on the fights w/ Haye and make sure at every opportunity to get the first crack at Haye if he beats them. the K sisters know that this fight is what boxing wants. so in a sense it is a mandated fight. it will be a fight for the people's champ. the K sisters do have most of the negotiating leverage, but so did DLH and he never tried the type of bullshiit. For instance, DLH atleast gave Pac a 70-30 split of the HBO money and DLH never dipped into the money made in the philipines. What the K sisters have done is the worse example of greed and this is why a lot of people did not want the K sisters to have the belts because they would take the belts to Germany and hold them hostage there. There are ethics in business. its exactly the kind of attitude that says that business and ethics have no relation that there is a global recession. the K sisters are cowardly and greedy. They try and make a good guy image for themselves but this contract with Haye shows their true colors as villians and bullies.

Your 'girl' must love all this shit you type and reward you with some pussy for defending the Klits. At least he likes pussy and isn't scared to put his head there. like the red blooded hetrosexual male he is. :la:

What a joke. First of all, of course this loud mouth Cockney on Setanta is going to bend the truth to defend another loud mouthed Cockney. Boo Hoo Cry Me A River Hayebitch, this moron has done NOTHING to earn this fight, so what does he expect? At least you can say Gomez earned his shot. Not Haye though. He's just a big ego with an even bigger mouth.

Thats disgusting what the Klitschko team have made him do. He has had to give up ALL of his proceeds of the fight apart from U.K television money. Klitschkos Team (K2), get All gate receipts, the entire German and American television money and T.V rights for the rest of the world, plus they get to name the venue, and they also have 2, yes 2 rematch clasues. Terrible stuff co-sign......that contract is lame and unprofessional.

Haye won me over with this shit. Taking that kind of sacrifice to land the fight, finally someone who wants to make the fights and doesnt act like (pretend to be) a businessman like every other boxer today. Yeah im no longer a haye hater anymore lol.

Haye won me over with this shit. Taking that kind of sacrifice to land the fight, finally someone who wants to make the fights and doesnt act like (pretend to be) a businessman like every other boxer today.

I wonder why the brothers always seem to avenge each others losses rather then avenging the loss themself.. it doesn't redeem the loss if it's your brother who does it. Agreed, I dont see how "your" brother can avenge a boxing ring loss. If i lose i dont want my brother to avenge my own loss for me!!! i would rather do that myself.

I dont care what anyone else say but this is a greedy move, And him having to fight Vitali if he wins takes the biscuit......If Don King pull a move like this we all would be screaming so why should anyone make an exemption for the way the Klits seem to want to hold the HW to a ransom??? I seem to remember when Vitali and shelly finkel use to scream about how Don king is ruining the HW by keeping the belts in within his own fighters and asking for options on other fighters that challenge his fighter...Well what are the Klits who use to complain about it doing now???? And please dont give me this Haye doesnt deserve a chance crap, You get a chance at the top dog by what you bring to the table, Whether it the fans or mouth or TV audience, Hatton came from 140 to fight Mayweather at 147 after one fight at 147......Joe calzaghe came up to 175 to fight Hopkins after been the man at 168, So why cant Haye especially with the sad state of the HW at the moment. I wonder why the brothers always seem to avenge each others losses rather then avenging the loss themself.. it doesn't redeem the loss if it's your brother who does it.