I like Calzaghe, he wins every fight in convincing fashion and the haters hate him because he is unorthodox and looks like he slaps.
Let him start slapping the haters and see how weak his punches are..or maybe it would be the fact that he would out-throw, out-class, and out-last the haters....easily
He never fought at MW, and only had 2 bouts at LH, aginst 2 old fighters at the combined age of 83....
In both bouts he was floored in the first round.
Can you imagine what would happen if Hopkins and Jones were in their Prime?
Or could you imagine what would happen if he went against proper LH's?
Sorry Pal, some of you Brits make Calzaghe into a joke.
IMO, he is a good boxer, very talented, but wasted his career fighting nobodies and Hyped up bouts.
I dont care if he lost, i would have rather seen him lose against the best, then to win against nobodies.
Good fighter, Waste of talent
Well Hopkins is currently ranked #3 P4P so age wasn't a factor in his defeat to Calzaghe. Even if Calzaghe, Jones and Hopkins were all at their best when they fought, Joe might go down but would get up and still dominate, that's what I can "imagine" happening. Unfortunately neither Jones or Hopkins wanted to know when they were in their "primes" for good reason, they'd have lost just like they did when they finally fought and they knew it, deal with it!
For everybody saying Joe fought "nobodies" they cant seem to name the big names he should have been fighting, because he fought the biggest names available. There just weren't a whole lot of huge names from MW-LHW over the last decade and Joe beat all the top names except Ottke, Toney and Tarver. Dawson MIGHT become a name but isn't really one yet...
Joe Calzaghe is an All-Time great IMHO. Joe is easily the GOAT (#1) at SMW and would be competitive with any great fighter at MW or LHW IMO.
He never fought at MW, and only had 2 bouts at LH, aginst 2 old fighters at the combined age of 83....
In both bouts he was floored in the first round.
Can you imagine what would happen if Hopkins and Jones were in their Prime?
Or could you imagine what would happen if he went against proper LH's?
Sorry Pal, some of you Brits make Calzaghe into a joke.
IMO, he is a good boxer, very talented, but wasted his career fighting nobodies and Hyped up bouts.
I dont care if he lost, i would have rather seen him lose against the best, then to win against nobodies.
Good fighter, Waste of talent
So how great is he? ATG #? in your opinion ofcourse...........
Joe Calzaghe is an All-Time great IMHO. Joe is easily the GOAT (#1) at SMW and would be competitive with any great fighter at MW or LHW IMO. It's hard to rank fighters All-Time, especially fighters from different weight classes, era's and most lists are extremely biased, so it's best to rank fighters in their respective weight classes or the one they spent the majority of their careers. That's the best way to keep the biases out. I don't see any SMW in history that would've beaten JC. Jones and Toney didn't spend much time at SMW, but I think Calzaghe would still edge a decision against either in their respective primes.
He's a very good fighter that i just cant consider great because just about all his wins came against mediocre opponents or against fighters past their primes. His only "great" win IMO is Kessler. Every other win was unimpressive because of who he was facing or even questionable against Hopkins. i had hopkins winning that fight.
I would add to that the Eubank as it was his first big fight and the Lacy fight simply because of the manner he beat Lacy who was at the time supposed to be the great new hope.
He did duck true competition but he is a great champion especially back in his prime when he could actually punch. I think he should have fought Dawson to see if he really was the best light heavyweight, which he never was.
haha and chad 'hype' dawson is? no way
Guys like Trinidad, Mosely, De la Hoya, and Meayweather dominated multiple weights. Thats one thing Calzaghe didn't do, which makes me think he was scared and protected. The best of the best go up in weight, then again, then again. Joe probably would have gotten beat the moment he stepped out against a top contender a weight above him. There are alot of fighters who are undefeated and more dominant than Joe was at there natural weight. Including all of those fighters I named.
So are you saying that the legendary Benard Hopkins was scared & protected as well ? Like Calzaghe, Benard won world titles at 2 divisions as well. In my humble opinion mutiple weight division competitiveness is not the deciding factor of a great fighter. It is one of the things that is killing the sport, the reason we see a wieght drained De La Hoya fight at a weight he wasn't at in six years. Another example, Pavlic jumping 2 weight classes to get dominated by the bigger, skillfull legend.
The ''Legend Killer'' Joe Calzaghe is a great champ, I already stated in past post his legacy is already cemented. He might just be the greatest super middleweight champion ever after Roy Jones Jr.
On another note I think he would of beaten any version of the legendery Benard Hopkins.
I don't like Calzaghe because I hate his attitude and his style is hard to watch for me. There's nothing pretty about it, if you ask me. As far as underrated, no I don't think so. There's enough people that overrate him to balance everything out.
Joe Calzaghe is the best SMW ever and the best fighter from MW-SMW during his era and proved it in the ring.
When did fighters "have to fight in multiple weight categories in order to be great" start? The reason most fight in multiple weights is because they start small and grow into a more natural weight or just cant stay in shape and move up. Hagler and Hopkins don't seem to get any hate for staying at 1 weight class for most of their career, like Joe does. For those that think Joe ducked "names" during his career, they need to name them. Joe practically begged Taylor for a fight when he got his wins over Hopkins and still was unable to get him to agree to a contract. He came close but Taylor decided to ask for double (10 million) of what was being offered at the last minute just like Hopkins did to him several years earlier. Jones even admitted that the only reason he was fighting Calzaghe now was "I have nothing to lose", which he said on FNF leading up to the Calzaghe fight! When the "elite" had something to lose they didn't want to know!
Professional boxers see an awkward fighter with a great chin, speed, stamina and work rate who also happens to be a southpaw in Calzaghe. For most of his career the risk wasn't worth the reward which is why it took Calzaghe getting the leverage before he was able to complete his great legacy by getting the "big names" in the ring.
Nothing against Calzaghe he has accomplished alot (he needs to accomplish alot more to really get the recognition he deserves).
Just cant get over hes slapping technique, watching the slowmo .gifs of him vs bhop and jones is embarassing... he would probably be the last boxer I would recommend someone new to boxing to watch lol.
Good boxer, but wasted his talent facing Mediocre fighters in a mediocre division. Moved up weight clas for his final two fights againt opponenets at the comined age of 83.
Ridiculous
I give him credit for fighting at least an even fight with a 43 year old hopkins. That at least solidifies him as being better than Pavlick. Although Taylor beat Bernard so whatever. I give him mad props. Not above Roy or Bernard but I think he's right after roy and Bernard. Guys like Trinidad, Mosely, De la Hoya, and Meayweather dominated multiple weights. Thats one thing Calzaghe didn't do, which makes me think he was scared and protected. The best of the best go up in weight, then again, then again. Joe probably would have gotten beat the moment he stepped out against a top contender a weight above him. There are alot of fighters who are undefeated and more dominant than Joe was at there natural weight. Including all of those fighters I named.
He definitely deserve more respect but it doesnt help when you have people on here who are only here to nuthug him, that creates alot of hate and heat directed at him...
He's a very good fighter that i just cant consider great because just about all his wins came against mediocre opponents or against fighters past their primes. His only "great" win IMO is Kessler. Every other win was unimpressive because of who he was facing or even questionable against Hopkins. i had hopkins winning that fight.
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