Pictures of Margaritos pads

All I gotta say is if those things had blood on them, then that is just sick. Right. Why would someone use old gauze when they're new ones always available? I mean if I was a clean fighter I would always use new clean gauze for my handwraps. Using an older gauze would be almost like using your yesterdays socks.

People wonder where all that ‘hate’ is coming from…its been there…and now they found the perfect vehicle to let it all out…some people are more mad about the cotto fight than the actual case of these handwraps IMO Why not Margarito got away with it in the Cotto fight not in the Mosley fight.

People wonder where all that ‘hate’ is coming from…its been there…and now they found the perfect vehicle to let it all out…some people are more mad about the cotto fight than the actual case of these handwraps IMO you got it right on the money! it wasnt just some cotto fans that hated him before this issue, it was alot of other folks as well...for some reason.

People wonder where all that ‘hate’ is coming from…its been there…and now they found the perfect vehicle to let it all out…some people are more mad about the cotto fight than the actual case of these handwraps IMO Yeah, I haven't figured that one out... pretty soon people are going to link Margarito's wraps to random ass kickings they received in the 3rd grade.

How much can these help a boxer? They look very thin. From the look of the video, they werent rock solid. Where exactly were they placed on the wraps? I dont think they are enough to win you a fight so that was really stupid to use them and get in so much trouble. http://www.isis4u.co.nz/CottonTampons_files/image071.jpg All I gotta say is if those things had blood on them, then that is just sick.

Thank you for posting the evidence. Always did want to see what exactly it was. There was all these threads posting photos of Margarito's wraps talking about "look how huge them wraps" are, "they're full of cement," etc. To me, the wraps didn't look bigger than regulation. It makes sense it should be somthing thinner so that way it's not discovered. Also, I should probably start watching Primer Impacto again. They always had hot women as anchors.

DING DING DING!!! we have a winner Forgive me if I'm a little lost... but.... huh?

You're right. I don't know man. Either way, its not good. I guess more than anything I want people to just talk about something else. I almost wish someone else would bring a gun into the ring, just so we can start talking about something else. Hahaha, this shit is hard on the boards because there isn't a big fight coming up. Wait till Hatton-Pacquiao nears then you'll be sick of all the Pac-Hatton threads......haha. After that fight there are going to be 5k threads about why Hatton/Pac is an ATG and which past fighters they would've beaten or got beat by. Its cyclical.

Well I guess a lot of professors are wrong then because I learned it in school. Anyway here is are a couple of links: http://www.physorg.com/news3631.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_cement http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2005/153.html Anyway, I know that cement/concrete are different than plaster but there is also hydraulic plaster that can also harden underwater. I think though that we wont know what the hell the thing is until March. You're right. I don't know man. Either way, its not good. I guess more than anything I want people to just talk about something else. I almost wish someone else would bring a gun into the ring, just so we can start talking about something else.

So why so much hate for Marg? are you a Cotto fan or do you not like Mexicans cuz you got your a$$ kicked by a Mexican you're not helping yourself man. It's not about hating all Mexicans - stop the madness. Tons of Cotto fans gave Tony his props after the July fight - we thought he won fair and square. Now because of Margarito's actions, it places a huge ? on that win, and if you were objective - you would recognize that like many Margarito fans on this site. If you cared about respect for the sport and all the great Mexican fighters who are worthy of praise - then you'd understand Cotto didn't get beat by a Mexican; he got beat by an insecure fighter who dishonored you and all the great Mexican fans/fighters.

cause the dude is a ****ing cheater you moron. Most of the hate was there beforehand. Now there is just a reason to put behind it. That fight is something that will be talked about for decades. I don't think we even see the importance of it. Toni, caught with illegal wraps moments before the opening bell... Mosley, stepping into the ring doing his best to have a clear head while district attorneys are slaving away at building a case against him and countless others caught up in the Balco scandal. These two guys meeting in the ring, at that time, under those circumstances... represent everything good... and bad... in the sport.

the sad thing about all this is.....Marg DID do the hard trainin' and he DID take a fair share of hard punches.....all is for nothing now!......this loaded wraps shit is a life long scar and now his greatest win will ALWAYS be questioned....I hope he saved some money because times are gonna get hard for dude :cool2:

Educate myself? Like you are the ****ing authority on the subject. I do thank you for reading my post. You had to have read the entire post and understood it before you googled cement that would set underwater. You were lead to Wikipedia, where you read that Romans first pioneered the mass use of cement. Perhaps you even read the Encyclopedia Britanica entry on Hydraulic Cements. You were right about one thing, there are cements that will set underwater. So what I should have said, is there is no substance that, AFTER coming in contact with water, will set during the shourt course of a boxing match while constantly being compressed as a result of frequent punches. But, it would seem that we BOTH need to educate ourselves. The Romans never had a cement that would set underwater. You merely saw that reference on the same page as the description of modern day cement. They used a combination of clay and volcano ash that, when mixed with water, would set once allowed to dry and "air out" as I originally stated. Cement and plaster are two entirely different materials, composed of different substances. Plaster, alone, most definately does not set under water. It will attempt to harden, but becomes very brittle and immediately begins to disolve. A group of scientist and conservasionists were able to get plaster to set under water, but only after combining different epoxy compounds and after several attempts conducted in a labaratory (http://www.diveturkey.com/inaturkey/lab/peachey2.htm). So, I admit, I was wrong. There are certain cement mixtures that will solidify if left untouched and unmolested, underwater. Plaster, mixed with slow-viscocity expoxies, will set in wet areas... and over a 24-48 hour period, will even set underwater, though it becomes extremely brittle and the process of disolving begins immediately. Well I guess a lot of professors are wrong then because I learned it in school. Anyway here is are a couple of links: http://www.physorg.com/news3631.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_cement http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2005/153.html Anyway, I know that cement/concrete are different than plaster but there is also hydraulic plaster that can also harden underwater. I think though that we wont know what the hell the thing is until March.

So why so much hate for Marg? are you a Cotto fan or do you not like Mexicans cuz you got your a$$ kicked by a Mexican cause the dude is a ****ing cheater you moron.

Dude educate yourself. Romans had cement that would harden under-water without having to "air out" as you say. We have it today also it's called hydraulic cement. Hydraulic plaster can also by definition harden under water. Educate yourself please before you start spewing misinformation. Educate myself? Like you are the ****ing authority on the subject. I do thank you for reading my post. You had to have read the entire post and understood it before you googled cement that would set underwater. You were lead to Wikipedia, where you read that Romans first pioneered the mass use of cement. Perhaps you even read the Encyclopedia Britanica entry on Hydraulic Cements. You were right about one thing, there are cements that will set underwater. So what I should have said, is there is no substance that, AFTER coming in contact with water, will set during the shourt course of a boxing match while constantly being compressed as a result of frequent punches. But, it would seem that we BOTH need to educate ourselves. The Romans never had a cement that would set underwater. You merely saw that reference on the same page as the description of modern day cement. They used a combination of clay and volcano ash that, when mixed with water, would set once allowed to dry and "air out" as I originally stated. Cement and plaster are two entirely different materials, composed of different substances. Plaster, alone, most definately does not set under water. It will attempt to harden, but becomes very brittle and immediately begins to disolve. A group of scientist and conservasionists were able to get plaster to set under water, but only after combining different epoxy compounds and after several attempts conducted in a labaratory (http://www.diveturkey.com/inaturkey/lab/peachey2.htm). So, I admit, I was wrong. There are certain cement mixtures that will solidify if left untouched and unmolested, underwater. Plaster, mixed with slow-viscocity expoxies, will set in wet areas... and over a 24-48 hour period, will even set underwater, though it becomes extremely brittle and the process of disolving begins immediately.

Just so there's no confusion... there is no substance in the world that gets hard when wet... After the chemical reaction, the water in plaster must be allowed to openly evaporate. You can mix plaster and water (and this is a cheap expirement everyone can do if you are very very bored) and then put it into any COMPLETELY air tight container (we used an empty paint can when I was like 10 years old and hammered the lid on very tight)... You'll see, it doesn't set. Now boxing gloves aren't air tight, but with a sweaty hand filling them, constant punching, and the fact that the bout would only last a maximum of 48 minutes, theres just no way it would set. Not even if we fought 60 round fights... If Capetillo was using plaster, he's an idiot for not letting them set over night, or over a couple of nights... if they were wet as he was trying to place them in the gloves, there's just no way. He was doing something right if he was able to fool the commissioner.

Just so there's no confusion... there is no substance in the world that gets hard when wet... After the chemical reaction, the water in plaster must be allowed to openly evaporate. You can mix plaster and water (and this is a cheap expirement everyone can do if you are very very bored) and then put it into any COMPLETELY air tight container (we used an empty paint can when I was like 10 years old and hammered the lid on very tight)... You'll see, it doesn't set. Now boxing gloves aren't air tight, but with a sweaty hand filling them, constant punching, and the fact that the bout would only last a maximum of 48 minutes, theres just no way it would set. Not even if we fought 60 round fights... If Capetillo was using plaster, he's an idiot for not letting them set over night, or over a couple of nights... if they were wet as he was trying to place them in the gloves, there's just no way. Dude educate yourself. Romans had cement that would harden under-water without having to "air out" as you say. We have it today also it's called hydraulic cement. Hydraulic plaster can also by definition harden under water. Educate yourself please before you start spewing misinformation.

if it is plaster or something hard,i doubt he used it against cotto since it would of probably done a lot more damage compared to what margarito did to him,cotto probably would have broken something,his nose was pretty bad but not what plaster could of done,just my opinion Wake up and have a cup will ya! BP

Nazim is laughing his ass off. Didn't the Mosley camp say it was hard to the touch, lmao. All it was is a mind game and it worked.

Just so there's no confusion... there is no substance in the world that gets hard when wet... After the chemical reaction, the water in plaster must be allowed to openly evaporate. You can mix plaster and water (and this is a cheap expirement everyone can do if you are very very bored) and then put it into any COMPLETELY air tight container (we used an empty paint can when I was like 10 years old and hammered the lid on very tight)... You'll see, it doesn't set. Now boxing gloves aren't air tight, but with a sweaty hand filling them, constant punching, and the fact that the bout would only last a maximum of 48 minutes, theres just no way it would set. Not even if we fought 60 round fights... If Capetillo was using plaster, he's an idiot for not letting them set over night, or over a couple of nights... if they were wet as he was trying to place them in the gloves, there's just no way.