Roy Jones Jr would beat Bernard Hopkins Jr today

Bait thread. Hopkins can pick the round he KO's Jones in now. Roy was completely shook by Joe's taps, claimed that shit was hard, when Hop clowned Cal's power the moment after their fight was over. If Bernard was an asshole he'd go in against Roy and put him out in 5 minutes. Roy has not wised up offensively and his defense is mediocre. Hopkins looks at the video tape and eats this current Jones alive.

truth hurts i agree with what u said mostly but the part about roy not being intelligent.... it's not that he isn't intelligent...he is stubborn... if u watch fights he was commenting on, he knew exactly what a fighter had to do in order to be successful... he KNOWS what to do as a fighter, but he couldn't do it himself because he relied on his physical gifts.... so i wouldn't say roy isn't intelligent i would call him stubborn or just plain dumb lol he is one of those stupit smart people.... they know what to do and how to do it, but they kant because of whatever reasons which usually involves pride or stubborness

Nazim Richardson said it best. Roy Jones possesses natural raw talent, but he's no student of the sport like Hopkins or Mosley. I dare to say Mosley is a better student than Roy. Talent goes with age, and you gotta learn to adapt to the circumstances, because of all these young lions coming in...or else folks like Jones will find themselves out of the Pride. B.hop has manage to adapt with tricks of the trade, and still stay relevant, so he tops Roy who had the better talent as far as HOF or ATG goes. Plus at 35 or so he was bound to fall off, especially since he had moved up to heavy and back down to 175. SRL and Ali were pretty much done at the same age as Jones. 8 Cylinders Screaming "F**k the Law".....Beanie Sigel I disagree. I think Hopkins was good at prolonging his career by fighting smaller men who don't stand a chance at putting him on his back. He could have moved up to 175 easily to fight Jones when Jones was p4p #1 for all the marbles and avoided the opportunity to prove his superiority over jones as far as the ATG arena. in the end he was just selling wolf tickets. Jones kept moving up in weight, facing bigger men until he got ko'd.

I like how Roy Jones gets a lot of doubters now after losing to Calzaghe, the #1 LHW today. Is it because Calzaghe beat Jones by a wider margain than Hopkins? Styles make fights and Hopkins isn't going to come at Jones throwing 1000 punches, they will fight at a much slower pace and Jones has much better handspeed, power and even reflexes than Hopkins today. Hopkins has the edge in footwork and defence but I can see Roy outpointing him, even today. Roy has not been the same since he came back down from Heavyweight but I think he's better now than he was in the Tarver and Johnson fights (he took the Johnson fight too soon after being KOed) and he could easily have won the third Tarver fight if he actually tryed. He was unimpressive against the two journeymen he fought but I put that down to not training with as much desire because he impressed me loads in the Trinidad fight (even Tito impressed me) and parts of the Calzaghe fight. If Roy is motivated he could beat Bernard, even today. Styles make fights. rjj is shot. hopkins has more in the tank. hopkins ud rjj.

I like how Roy Jones gets a lot of doubters now after losing to Calzaghe, the #1 LHW today. Is it because Calzaghe beat Jones by a wider margain than Hopkins? Styles make fights and Hopkins isn't going to come at Jones throwing 1000 punches, they will fight at a much slower pace and Jones has much better handspeed, power and even reflexes than Hopkins today. Hopkins has the edge in footwork and defence but I can see Roy outpointing him, even today. Roy has not been the same since he came back down from Heavyweight but I think he's better now than he was in the Tarver and Johnson fights (he took the Johnson fight too soon after being KOed) and he could easily have won the third Tarver fight if he actually tryed. He was unimpressive against the two journeymen he fought but I put that down to not training with as much desire because he impressed me loads in the Trinidad fight (even Tito impressed me) and parts of the Calzaghe fight. If Roy is motivated he could beat Bernard, even today. Styles make fights. LMFAO. Hopkins does not want to fight Roy now because he himself said that he cares for him and there would be no point in battering a shot Jones. Be that as it may if it were to happen Hopkins would knock Roy out.

Both Hopkins and Jones Jr are All Time Greats. However, Jones Jr was better than Hopkins in his prime... but since Tarver in 2004 Jones hasn't seemed to be the same and it looks like he has aged in dog years. Hopkins on the other hand, would lose to Jones Prime vs Prime but if the fight was right now Hopkins would win... age hasn't seemed to effect Hopkins that much (well obviously a little bit but still...) he is very impressive for a 44 year old man and has shown he still has it when he fought Pavlik. So my thought are, Prime Jones Jr. vs Prime Hopkins = Jones Jr by decision (if they had a rematch in there primes) and Modern Jones Jr vs Modern Hopkins = Hopkins by decision (maybe even late TKO). Oh and by the way... it is just Bernard Hopkins, not Bernard Hopkins Jr.

So does dillusions............. speaking of dillusions.... http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239230

Roy would lose to B-Hop in these days and time....I'm just glad the fight aint happenin'!

Oh, you think because he hasn't wobbled Jones or B-hop that he cannot hit harder than Hopkins. B-hop wasn't hurting guys @ 160 and has yet to score a KO in 5 years against Osrar, who was a welterweight. Hell he didn't even hurt Oscar to the head. LOL. Calzaghe throws "slapping" punches on purpose. They are not meant to be hard shots. Therefor, BHop hits harder then Joe.

RJJ is one of the most physically gifted fighers of all time but he is not an intelligent fighter. When the physicals gifts started to erode and Roy was asked to put together an actual strategy he became an average figher. Nazim Richardson said it best. Roy Jones possesses natural raw talent, but he's no student of the sport like Hopkins or Mosley. I dare to say Mosley is a better student than Roy. Nazim is a smart man.

Nazim Richardson said it best. Roy Jones possesses natural raw talent, but he's no student of the sport like Hopkins or Mosley. I dare to say Mosley is a better student than Roy. Talent goes with age, and you gotta learn to adapt to the circumstances, because of all these young lions coming in...or else folks like Jones will find themselves out of the Pride. B.hop has manage to adapt with tricks of the trade, and still stay relevant, so he tops Roy who had the better talent as far as HOF or ATG goes. 8 Cylinders Screaming "F**k the Law".....Beanie Sigel

It just depends on which Hopkins shows up, the "old man" or his "son". The Hopkins work rate against Pavlik would school RJJ. The Hopkins that fought Taylor I and II, and especially Wright might stand a chance of losing to RJJ. I think the chance is slim, but it could happen. At his level now, RJJ is going to have trouble with fighters throwing 75-100 punches a round. But someone like Bernard, who spends the first 6 rounds planning his first punch, then throws it in the 7th round, might give Jones time to get cofortable in his fight plan.

jones has the style to outpoint any version of hopkins, but at this stage roy lost the snap on his punches and his lateral movement is gone. just can't step on the gas enough to wear hopkins down. couldn't do it with tarver in the third fight.

If they fought now I'd go wit Bhop. He's got more left than RJ.

You cannot be serious in saying that.............. Jones did rely on physical talent, that's no secret but to say he is not an intellegent fighter is the most ridiculous statement on here to this point. Ge sit in a corner now like the other guy. truth hurts

2 guys in the conner =)

RJJ is one of the most physically gifted fighers of all time but he is not an intelligent fighter. When the physicals gifts started to erode and Roy was asked to put together an actual strategy he became an average figher. BHop's best weapon is his intelligence. At this stage of their career he picks apart Roy with a superior gameplan. Of course, a Prime Roy wins 9 out of 10 times.

Who the **** is Bernard Hopkins Jr? Born to Bernard Hopkins Sr.

Every fighter is allotted a certain number of fights in their career and Roy passed his about six fights ago...Roy is one of my favorite fighters of alltime but he need not worry about Hopkins...Roy better hope he can get past Shieka at this point...Sorry to say it but Jones is but a shell of his former self...

Who the **** is Bernard Hopkins Jr?