If FLoyd beats Pacman at 140 he is the man again. If he fights him at 147 people will say he is too big but in reality there are not fare apart in size. At 140 Pac will be the stronger fighter likely as Floyd has adjusted a little to a heavier weight. This would be a huge name win and one that would stamp Floyd as an all time great. No one else is going to beat Pac at 140.
Floyd is an accurate counter puncher, but due to the volume of Pacquiao's punches I would think Floyd would have a hard time countering 3-5 punches coming at him. And YES Pacquiao "DOES" have better movement than Floyd because in his fight with Dela Hoya, he had a lot of head movement and foot work. Pacquiao would come in with power shots and turn Dela Hoya. Inspite of Dela Hoya's height advantage, Pacquiao was nowhere in sight because of Pacquiao's continuous movement. Pacquiao is the kind of fighter who forces his opponents to fight. Floyd stays in the ropes and waits for you to make a mistake then counter punches you. I strongly believe that Floyd will not have the opportunity to wait around for a strong counter punch. Pacquiao will definitely force him to fight and trade with him.
You make it sound as if Manny has 5 arms, these punches aren't all coming at the same time. Are you forgetting that Floyd is able to punch in between Manny's punches? Manny throwing 3-5 punches translates to 3-5 opportunities for Mayweather. Essentially, isn't that the purpose of counter-punching? Mayweather's fight with Chavez is a brilliant example as to how Floyd effectively deals with volume punching. His fight with N'dou is a good example too. In fact, punching in volume is what brings the best out of Floyd. I know Pacquiao is better than both N'dou and Chavez, but the fact still remains, and worth taking note of.
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Floyd has fought the majority of all his fights in the center of the ring. Yes, there has been moments where he has willingly fought off the ropes, and there has been moments where he was forced to fight off the ropes. However, to elucidate Mayweather's style as "Floyd stays in the ropes and waits for you to make a mistake then counter punches you." is quite naive, and not even worth discussing.
We'll just agree to disagree.
Pacquiao does not have better movement, whether you're referring to footwork / ring generalship, or upper body movement.
Pacquiao is fast, but are you forgetting how fast Mayweather is as well? Neither of them would have a notable advantage in this department.
Pacquiao was a devastating puncher at 126, 130, not at the deep waters of these weight classes. Floyd although not exactly heavy fisted, has deceptive power due to his pinpoint accuracy, timing and technique. Floyd does have the power to put Pacquiao in serious trouble if caught by the right punch. In the power department I would give a slight edge to Mayweather.
Pacquiao does throw more punches, but it's an ostensible advantage. With scrutiny I hope you'd begin to question if this was indeed an "advantage". Especially against a sharp, accurate counter-punching genius in Floyd Mayweather. One might see it as an opportunity for Floyd to score more points; remember Manny does leave himself open.
Defensively, as even you admitted, it's not even a contest. Floyd has a prodigious advantage, and in my opinion, is what separates Floyd being a good fighter from Floyd being a great fighter.
Floyd is an accurate counter puncher, but due to the volume of Pacquiao's punches I would think Floyd would have a hard time countering 3-5 punches coming at him. And YES Pacquiao "DOES" have better movement than Floyd because in his fight with Dela Hoya, he had a lot of head movement and foot work. Pacquiao would come in with power shots and turn Dela Hoya. Inspite of Dela Hoya's height advantage, Pacquiao was nowhere in sight because of Pacquiao's continuous movement. Pacquiao is the kind of fighter who forces his opponents to fight. Floyd stays in the ropes and waits for you to make a mistake then counter punches you. I strongly believe that Floyd will not have the opportunity to wait around for a strong counter punch. Pacquiao will definitely force him to fight and trade with him.
The fight should be at 140. That's already fair to both sides.
Floyd hasn't been at 140 in over 4 years.
He has certainly filled out over the years. I would without a doubt consider him a legitimate Welter Weight now. To make 140, he would have to really dehydrate himself. I think instead of a catch weight, a rule stating that they aren't allowed to weigh over 149 pounds on fight night would be fair. Manny and Floyd would both weigh roughly that on fight night anyway, (Manny might be 144-145'ish), despite Manny fighting several divisions lower than Mayweather.
My question is does Floyd have what it takes to walk through fire and come out unscathed.
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Pacquiao would beat him, he's got better movement, throws more, more power and faster. Mayweather has his defense but standing in the same place all night or leaning on the ropes like he usually does is a sure way to get killed by Pacquiao.
Pacquiao does not have better movement, whether you're referring to footwork / ring generalship, or upper body movement.
Pacquiao is fast, but are you forgetting how fast Mayweather is as well? Neither of them would have a notable advantage in this department.
Pacquiao was a devastating puncher at 126, 130, not at the deep waters of these weight classes. Floyd although not exactly heavy fisted, has deceptive power due to his pinpoint accuracy, timing and technique. Floyd does have the power to put Pacquiao in serious trouble if caught by the right punch. In the power department I would give a slight edge to Mayweather.
Pacquiao does throw more punches, but it's an ostensible advantage. With scrutiny I hope you'd begin to question if this was indeed an "advantage". Especially against a sharp, accurate counter-punching genius in Floyd Mayweather. One might see it as an opportunity for Floyd to score more points; remember Manny does leave himself open.
Defensively, as even you admitted, it's not even a contest. Floyd has a prodigious advantage, and in my opinion, is what separates Floyd being a good fighter from Floyd being a great fighter.
floyd vs pac will be at 147.
floyd in no way hell can make 140 anymore. roger has even said it. how can he make 140 when he was at 159 for wrestlemania?
hed be weight drained like dlh
Floyd is a smaller welterweight he is a natural one but a small one. He could beat Margarito but i have to admit i would think Floyd would have a hard time down the stretch. His hands will not hold up but otherwise i think he could outbox him easily. To much speed and movement, nothing like Cotto. His defense, upper body movement, footwork/speed are all better. And altough he cant hit as hard he is more accurate and could land at will (better stamina too). For the record im a big Cotto and Pac fan but if he beat Floyd i would be shocked.
Pacquiao would beat him, he's got better movement, throws more, more power and faster. Mayweather has his defense but standing in the same place all night or leaning on the ropes like he usually does is a sure way to get killed by Pacquiao.
Floyd is a smaller welterweight he is a natural one but a small one. He could beat Margarito but i have to admit i would think Floyd would have a hard time down the stretch. His hands will not hold up but otherwise i think he could outbox him easily. To much speed and movement, nothing like Cotto. His defense, upper body movement, footwork/speed are all better. And altough he cant hit as hard he is more accurate and could land at will (better stamina too). For the record im a big Cotto and Pac fan but if he beat Floyd i would be shocked.