That was the 1st time Ive seen it since I watched it live but its even worst now then I remember back then. Back then I thought Ike clearly won but now it was a huge robbery. There is no way that Oscar won that fight. What made me upset is that Oscar had a huge 12th round or atleast the start to it and he won that clearly 10-8 but that didnt even matter because the 2 judges who had Oscar winning the fight, had him with the lead even coming into the 12th. What? I had him 4pts behind going into the 12th and at the least I would accept him trailing by 3 like Lederman but come on. I cant beleieve that people think a prime Oscar beats Floyd. He had skills but he just never was all the way there. He was always missing something.
Then the other thing that makes me mad was Foreman. Everytime I watch an old fight I get so sick of hearing his voice. Man Im glad that he's gone. I get it that everyone has there guys that they like and they pick a guy before each fight but atleast all the other commentators try to be a "little" open minded coming into a fight. Foreman was never liked that. He always had his guy and his theroy before the fight and once then fight started then he would try to stick with it and convince you the whole fight why he was right, even if the fight itself went completely opposite. He talked and bragged about Oscar that whole fight. Its just like he did with Tito when he fought Hopkins. I also think he says alot of things just to go against the grain.
Then it made me mad because before the 12th, Harold said that he had Ike up by 3 and Merchant said he had Ike up by 4 but George said that he has Oscar ahead easily. Some of the things he says during a fight are so dumb and obviously wrong, then Merchant calls him on it, and he still tries to make up some reason why he is right. The bottom line though is that it was no doubt a robbery and no that last round shouldnt have been 10-7 like some may say. He dropped Ike and lit him up on the ropes but for the 2nd half of the round he probably didnt land another punch and Ike was in total control. Who do you guys think won the fight?
You took the words out my mouth. In this business, It's not how you start, but how you finish. Look people, some judges tend to score the round of a fight differently. To say this was Highway robbery is just ignorant. Now Chavez Vs Whitaker, that's Highway Robbery.
agreed. look at the judges for calzaghe-hopkins. hopkins schooled him for the first 8 rounds then calzaghe did a lot better in the last 4 rounds and the dumbass judges forgot to fill out their scorecards till then and just went nuts.
It could have gone either way to me. I think De La Hoya's last round rally is what got him the win, he had Quartey on the ropes and was punching away at him. If Quartey kept things in the middle of the ring in the last round he probably would have won.
You took the words out my mouth. In this business, It's not how you start, but how you finish. Look people, some judges tend to score the round of a fight differently. To say this was Highway robbery is just ignorant. Now Chavez Vs Whitaker, that's Highway Robbery.
DLT, you are the one person I respect the most as a
poster....You never limit your post to a few lines to appeal to less
avid readers on this site and i respect that tremendously.
You are the only poster i will say that probably knows more about
boxing then myself when it comes to any fighter and topic. I know i talk about floyd alot, but talking about floyd is a sidenote from talking about boxing, and i talk about boxing even more in real life.
and you my friend talk about boxing. MUCH RESPECT to probably the best poster on this site..
-horus
get off da nutz homie. Just knowing he's a Manny P. fan from the get-go makes his opinion a conflict of interest. This fight could have gone either way, live with it.
Has Oscar ever been in an exciting big fight???
I ****in cant stand the way he tries to win rounds with big flurries in the last 10 seconds.
He did the same against Whitaker and Trinidad.
Haha, touche. Posted the same score and basically the same comments a 1 minute apart. You just watch the 11:00 airing too?
Nah, I scored it awhile ago. I caught some of the replay.
I wish they didn't put the date on the bottom of the screen.
115-112 Quartey.
DLH did way too little for most of the fight. Even less than Quartey.
Haha, touche. Posted the same score and basically the same comments a 1 minute apart. You just watch the 11:00 airing too?
Just watched and scored it.
I had it wider than most: 115-112 Ike Quartey.
Through 9 I only gave Oscar the 3rd. I felt Ike fairly dominated the fight, there were too many rounds where Oscar did nothing but have a flurry or two.
Oscar has an huge size advantage over Floyd. The only reason Floyd managed to be a ww champion is because he's a very special fighter, one true ATG imo, if he was more limited he could have had an almost as great of a career at 130 where he should still be able to rule. PBF is a natural 135 pounder, much like Pacquiao. He's half an inch taller than Hatton and we all know how tall Hatton is. On a side note i think Oscar has no business fighting neither Pacquiao, Floyd or Hatton.
Floyd is a half inch taller than Hatton?
http://philboxing.com/news/pix/mayweather-hatton.faceoff.071205.300w.jpg
Floyd could've made 130 his entire career?:eek:
It could have gone either way to me. I think De La Hoya's last round rally is what got him the win, he had Quartey on the ropes and was punching away at him. If Quartey kept things in the middle of the ring in the last round he probably would have won.
yeah but my problem is that the 2 judges who gave the fight to Oscar had him ahead going into the 12th so that round didnt even really matter
Ike was a beast.
I've always thought that Ike won that fight, if Ike had gotten the nod mabe he would have stayed at welterweight... too bad things went down hill from there.
And lets not forget the disgusting decision vs Forrest.
It could have gone either way to me. I think De La Hoya's last round rally is what got him the win, he had Quartey on the ropes and was punching away at him. If Quartey kept things in the middle of the ring in the last round he probably would have won.
It comes on at 11 here. I'll be watchin then, but I've never strayed from my opinion that Ike shoulda won it. He got smacked up in the 12th and was lucky to survive, but I didn't think that was enuf to deny him a victory.
You guys keep talking about the 2 knockdowns like Oscar himself didnt ever go down. He went down once himself so its not like Oscar got 2 extra points and you could see after every round that Oscar was looking so defeated in the corner and even his trainers were getting on him. I dont mean that it was a robbery like a guy shouldve won by 8pts but I thought Ike clearly won alot of rounds that you couldnt argue with which made it hard for me to see that you could give it to Oscar even if your being generous