plain and simple.bernard hopkins has lost disputed fights against guys that are athletic, with handspeed, footwork, and adequate defense(jones jr, taylor,cal).those are all attributes dawson possesses.hopkins is not johnson.he does not try to walk you down wear you out.hopkins game is to pick and choose his shots from round 1 to round 12.he's totally different than johnson.
I'll admit i though pav would ko hopkins, simply cause i believed a couple of notions many believed as well. i thought hopkins didn't have the legs to do what he did anymore,as he showed vs winky, and cal. i thought he lost a step.
i thought he was old, and over the hill. i was wrong.but there is something we must understand, chad dawson is not pavlik either.he's chad dawson.
plain and simple.bernard hopkins has lost disputed fights against guys that are athletic, with handspeed, footwork, and adequate defense(jones jr, taylor,cal).those are all attributes dawson possesses.hopkins is not johnson.he does not try to walk you down wear you out.hopkins game is to pick and choose his shots from round 1 to round 12.he's totally different than johnson.
I'll admit i though pav would ko hopkins, simply cause i believed a couple of notions many believed as well. i thought hopkins didn't have the legs to do what he did anymore,as he showed vs winky, and cal. i thought he lost a step.
i thought he was old, and over the hill. i was wrong.but there is something we must understand, chad dawson is not pavlik either.he's chad dawson.
I agree, just the other day i was telling someone that if Calzaghe and Taylor could win on work rate alone, then Dawson would really be too much because he would put the power behind it, something that Jermain and Joe didn't do. On top of that, Hopkins would be fighting a natural light heavyweight that is versatile, and that's something that he hasn't seen before. Dawson gives the angles, has good defense and just keeps working. He would bring the fight to Hopkins the same way that Calzaghe did, the only difference IMO would be that he would win more convincingly based on youth and just staying active and working.
A lot of people are still looking at the Pavlik as evidence, but just bet a lot of points on Dawson and you will get PAID..lol.
You know what I like this. When the fight gets made and B-Hop wins, I'll just point the finger at those who pick Chad to win.
that'll surely hurt some feelings.........
plain and simple.bernard hopkins has lost disputed fights against guys that are athletic, with handspeed, footwork, and adequate defense(jones jr, taylor,cal).those are all attributes dawson posses.hopkins is not johnson.he does not try to walk you down wear you out.hopkins game is to pick and choose his shots from round 1 to round 12.he's totally different than johnson.
I'll admit i though pav would ko hopkins, simply cause i believed a couple of notions many believed as well. i thought hopkins didn't have the legs to do what he did anymore,as he showed vs winky, and cal. i thought he lost a step.
i thought he was old, and over the hill. i was wrong.but there is something we must understand, chad dawson is not pavlik either.he's chad dawson.
I got ur back and agree 100 percent
Taylor aint no Dawson and Dawson is a better fighter whos faster, smarter and busier
Too much for bhop and he said it himself that he struggles with guys who have speed
Jones was an amatuer so he had way more fights then Hopkins. Hopkins only had them 21 fights because he was in prison and never got to do amatuer as much as jones. Hopkins became hopkins i would say, from 1995 on up. Jones been ducking him, and everybody knows it. Hopkins makes Jones piss his pants and make up excuses why they didn't fight.
We all know Hopkins cant beat Dawson he couldn't even beat Taylor.
Counting Hopkins out against anyone is plain stupid.
Hopkins argueably beat Taylor.
Even Calzaghe would have major problems beating Dawson now.
You talking about the same Calzaghe that had plenty of trouble against Hopkins, Another fight where you could argue that Hopkins won.
his workrate was good in pavlik fight, not as much in tarver, calzaghe, wright. how would you compare Dawson's workrate, movement to Taylor's? calzaghe been dropped in last 2 fights and ppl still declare he has elite chin, i dont see this being said about any other fighter thats been dropped. i just don't see hopkins winning a decision against someone who throws combos like that.
thats because Roach taught him to be a one punch donkey.
bernard hopkins was 22-1-0 and was 28 years old and the 1 ranked IBF conterder.
roy jones was 21-0-0 roy was 24 years old.jones was ranked number 2 by the IBF.
this hole idea that hopkins was green is a fanboys bullshit ass excuse.
if anybody was green it was jones.
either was the best fighter the other would have faced.
To be fair both fighters were green.
if Johnson Gave Dawson All He Could Handle, Hopkins Would Close Him Out.........
johnson And Hopkins Are Different Fighters.
What Is So Difficult To Understand About That?
The Only Thing They Have In Common Is That They're Both Old And Black.
athletic fighters don't beat a prime hopkins. rjj got bhop when he was green. taylor and calz got an old bhop.
its not wise to pick against bhop period.
bernard hopkins was 22-1-0 and was 28 years old and the 1 ranked IBF conterder.
roy jones was 21-0-0 roy was 24 years old.jones was ranked number 2 by the IBF.
this hole idea that hopkins was green is a fanboys bullshit ass excuse.
if anybody was green it was jones.
either was the best fighter the other would have faced.
plain and simple.bernard hopkins has lost disputed fights against guys that are athletic, with handspeed, footwork, and adequate defense(jones jr, taylor,cal).those are all attributes dawson posses.hopkins is not johnson.he does not try to walk you down wear you out.hopkins game is to pick and choose his shots from round 1 to round 12.he's totally different than johnson.
I'll admit i though pav would ko hopkins, simply cause i believed a couple of notions many believed as well. i thought hopkins didn't have the legs to do what he did anymore,as he showed vs winky, and cal. i thought he lost a step.
i thought he was old, and over the hill. i was wrong.but there is something we must understand, chad dawson is not pavlik either.he's chad dawson.
if johnson gave dawson all he could handle, hopkins would close him out.........
Highly unlikely those punches would KO Dawson, I understand you prefer Hopkins but I've seen him withstand harder punches without falling? Hopkins can stop him at times from getting range to throw combos, have his left hook and right, but not enough to win a decision over someone quicker with faster handspeed. Who was last fighter similar to Dawson that Hopkins has defeated. And I can't see Dawson losing by decision if Taylor can get 2 decisions over him.
I think you misunderstood me, I do think Dawson can beat Hopkins, He could win by outworking Hopkins to a narrow decision But the threadstarter title was Hopkins cannot beat Dawson which is completely stupid, Hopkins has a great chance against anyone at 175.
plain and simple.bernard hopkins has lost disputed fights against guys that are athletic, with handspeed, footwork, and adequate defense(jones jr, taylor,cal).those are all attributes dawson posses.hopkins is not johnson.he does not try to walk you down wear you out.hopkins game is to pick and choose his shots from round 1 to round 12.he's totally different than johnson.
I'll admit i though pav would ko hopkins, simply cause i believed a couple of notions many believed as well. i thought hopkins didn't have the legs to do what he did anymore,as he showed vs winky, and cal. i thought he lost a step.
i thought he was old, and over the hill. i was wrong.but there is something we must understand, chad dawson is not pavlik either.he's chad dawson.
athletic fighters don't beat a prime hopkins. rjj got bhop when he was green. taylor and calz got an old bhop.
its not wise to pick against bhop period.
That's because he wouldn't do shit..! Just standing there like a frustrated Tarver cuz he can't land shit. When he attacks, Hopkins would be out of reach, when he would be wondering how to land a punch, hopkins would be in his face (probably throwing a headbutt or two in there just for good measures).
:lol1:yeah.no.dawson is not pavlik or tarver.
Well... He DID outwork a very old Glen johnson :D But doing the same thing against B-hop? No way, as said before - he would run out of wind trying and then.... he would be ****ed
Yes he outworked Glen Johnson who throws a lot of punches. Hopkins does not. So again, I ask, why would Dawson plan to stop Hopkins from throwing punches?
How do you keep B-Hop from throwing punches?
Why would you try to keep BHop from throwing? Why would that even be Dawson's game plan? When's the last time he won by outworking someone?
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