Currently Wlad boasts 12 succesful title fights, and 5 current defenses of his crown.
He virtually disposed of anyone worth defeating in his era. My qualification for him to hit that ATG status would be roughly 5 more defenses of his title and another unification, and then he enters the ranks of say the all time top 20 top 15 fighters?
Are you being serious? If ever anyone was so completely dominated and blown out in less than a round each in two consecutive fights, this was it.
buggered that one up a bit didn't I? lol
The same Langsford that fought and beat other people considered ATG yeah that one.
To get on the ATG list you need to be in the ring with ATG's and preferably beat other ATG Wlad hasn't beaten anyone who will ever come near an ATG hence he's not one either.
Patterson beating Liston is miles ahead of anything Wlad has achived
Walcott beating Charles and Louis is ahead of anything Wlad has ever achived
Langsford beating McVea, Wills and Jeanette is ahead of anything that Wlad has ever achived.
Are you being serious? If ever anyone was so completely dominated and blown out in less than a round each in two consecutive fights, this was it.
Wladimir is already in contention with Patterson, Walcott, and your not talking about Sam Langford are you?The same Langsford that fought and beat other people considered ATG yeah that one.
To get on the ATG list you need to be in the ring with ATG's and preferably beat other ATG Wlad hasn't beaten anyone who will ever come near an ATG hence he's not one either.
Patterson beating Liston is miles ahead of anything Wlad has achived
Walcott beating Charles and Louis is ahead of anything Wlad has ever achived
Langsford beating McVea, Wills and Jeanette is ahead of anything that Wlad has ever achived.
I'll Bite.
Ali
Joe Louis
Joe Frazier
Patterson
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Holmes
Liston
Foreman
Schmelling
Marciano
Langford
Wills
Dempsey
Walcott
Norton
Jeffries
Jack johnson
Charles
You could make a case for any of those to be above Either Kitch on resume's.
Wladimir is already in contention with Patterson, Walcott, and your not talking about Sam Langford are you?
Yeah? Give me your list of your top 20 heavyweights of all time?
I'll Bite.
Ali
Joe Louis
Joe Frazier
Patterson
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Holmes
Liston
Foreman
Schmelling
Marciano
Langford
Wills
Dempsey
Walcott
Norton
Jeffries
Jack johnson
Charles
You could make a case for any of those to be above Either Kitch on resume's.
LOL WHAT!?!!??!!?!?
I'm assuming you meant top 15-20 heavyweights, but that is still RIDICULOUS. He's nowhere near the top 20 heavyweights all time
Yeah? Give me your list of your top 20 heavyweights of all time?
If Wlad wants to be talked as top 20 ATG HW he better hope Haye beats his Brother badly, Arreola loses 20lbs and comes into the ring looking like Tyson for his next 5 fights and FTKO the rest of the top HW's.
Then maybe with those two having achived that maybe just maybe if he beats both of them he can talk.
I very much doubt Wlad reaches the top 20 fighters ever spot. I only have 4 HWs in the top 25 ever list and they are Ali, Louis, Holmes and Lennox and Wlad ain't on their level.
That's one hell of a journey, seeing as how he can't get there even if he keeps winning? This current winning streak of his would have to be a very very long one, like it's been said. I still don't see how he can crack the top 10.
Currently Wlad boasts 12 succesful title fights, and 5 current defenses of his crown.
He virtually disposed of anyone worth defeating in his era. My qualification for him to hit that ATG status would be roughly 5 more defenses of his title and another unification, and then he enters the ranks of say the all time top 20 top 15 fighters?
LOL WHAT!?!!??!!?!?
I'm assuming you meant top 15-20 heavyweights, but that is still RIDICULOUS. He's nowhere near the top 20 heavyweights all time
Wlad will never be an ATG, not while he keeps fighting like a pussy at least.
You mean he will never be an ATG if he keeps winning so dominantly? You know displaying the perfect art of hit and not get hit?
you paper queens!!!
talk out your ass wladowns.
anyboby with any sense knows this is the most pathetic time in hvwt history!
its not pansy wlads fault. he's such a nice gentleman. but please on your hype!
please!
this guy will be look at as a joke in history!
The guy in your avatar will be looked at as a joke, however Wlad will have the same reputation that Larry Holmes had. A very talented boxer with a lack of competition, however the title defenses will make up for it.
Larry Holmes is a top 5 ATG in my book.
you paper queens!!!
talk out your ass wladowns.
anyboby with any sense knows this is the most pathetic time in hvwt history!
its not pansy wlads fault. he's such a nice gentleman. but please on your hype!
please!
this guy will be look at as a joke in history!
as far as im concerned, wlad is the "savior" of the heavyweight division. dominant champion, just as dominant as any. he is the one somewhat holding the division together, otherwise it would be a huge mess and there would be no clear champion. all he needs now is a rival to have a legendary fight with.
In the heavyweight divisions history, he probably will have a spot in the top 20.
In order to get to an ATG, he would have to lure his brother Vitali to fight him and beat him. That's his only way.....maybe.
ATG fighters do a combination of things:
1. Impact/Influence society outside of boxing
2. Create legendary fights with legendary boxers
3. Reign as champion for a number of years, take all titles
4. Leave no questions
If you can agree to this than we can apply it to Wlad:
1. NO
2. NO
3. Not Yet
4. Probably Never because of Sanders and Purrity
1. just because the klitschkos dont make a huge impact here in america, doesnt mean they dont overseas.
2. cant say wlad has been in anything legendary yet, he hasnt had the opportunity :(
3. not yet
4. i dont think there is any doubt in anyones mind that wlad would handle both of those guys handily by now. he fought dumb against sanders, and puritty, he just tanked, it didnt even have much to do with purrity, watch the ko, wlad doesnt even get hit really, he just like falls down. wlad would have fought them again if they would have met up again later down the road, but sanders pretty much faded into oblivion and purritty lost too many fights to make it to the top.
i hope within the next 2 years or so, a fantastic heavyweight emerges and manages to avoid klitschko for a while, and then they clash!