LOL @ the double standard.. [P.Williams]

As xcaret used to say: "And silence......." What happened Sin? No reply?

Couple of things: Kolle is a middleweight who wasn't stopped until like round 6 against Andre Ward. Ward fights at Super Middle now. Also Ward had made him quit. Not viciously KO him like Williams did. Andy Kolle might be a lesser fighter than Alfonso Gomez in a p4p sense, but Williams looked good in doing so. He had good head movement and seemed to have the same speed he had at welterweight. He had popped and landed some very nice counters. Cotto toyed with Gomez in a fight that everyone thought that Cotto was going dispatch him sooner or in more impressive fashion. Williams was supposed to win, but just most likely in a points victory and get him some rounds to stay active. Three things here: 1. If he couldn't hang at Middleweight then why was he undefeated? Williams could make 147 and that's why he moved down. Like I said in my other thread, if it's controlled like the second quintana fight (in which he only rehydrated to 156) then he can make it fine. 2. He'd be kissing the canvas? Isn't that funny when you have Mosley in your avatar? According to your awesome logic, Mosley ran from JLC and then went to DLH. This means he should have gotten crushed. Granted I don't think he can beat Pavlik, but if Mosley could have a chance then why couldn't Williams. 3. He'd be kissing the canvas based on what? His incredibly weak chin he showed against Margarito? Question: If Williams is killing himself to make 147 and should be fighting at 160 then shouldn't he be rocked by a lot of welterweight shots and be chinny like Cotto was at 140? Also how come Williams is so drained he can throw like 100 punches a round? If Cotto can become stronger at a bigger weight class then why can't Williams? Same with Mosley for that matter. Shit half your fighters in your sig can be better at different weight classes. Cotto at 147, Corrales at 135 was still strong, Mosley at 147 and, Guzman at 130. He "ran" from that weight so bad he tried to make a fight with Winky Wright (in which was cancelled because HBO had no more money for that type of fight) and also Kelly Pavlik remember? It shows he might be able to compete with middleweights and remember all those fights he could fight at welterweight? Incufan is dead on the money with this, if you can make weight YOU MAKE IT. My only concern is Williams' health in draining, but last time he only rehydrated to 156 so he obviously prepared himself a lot better. You pretty much said everything, literally EVERYTHING i was going to say. Basically fighters chase money. I used to think that guys are "too big" for a certain weight shouldnt be at that weight, but in reality, guys just chase the money, they go where the money can be made and to the level they can compete in. I used to hate on maragarito for picking on guys smaller than him but if he can make the weight, i dont really have much of a right to rip on him. The thing is, Williams did try to fight Kelly Pavlik like you said, as well as Winky Wright, and also, Gomez we all KNEW was a no-hoper, it was a weak fight that told us nothing, and while yea, it was a stay busy fight, it wasnt impressed by any means and honestly after that gomez fight, i think Cotto fell in love with himself and his power to such an extent he went into the margarito fight thinking he could knock him out. I think the topic creator is definately reaching because he himself, for whatever reason, does NOT like Paul Williams which, if you hold any fandom for margarito or cotto, i can kind of see why.

bad comparism!!!williams moved up 2 weight divisions//even though its all smoke screens and mirror tricks(meaning he really didnt move anywhere and kolle is a bum) but i wasnt impressed He moved up to weight division cause there is where he belongs.

"Cotto would fold PWill like a folding chair". Somebody told me that. I'd really like to see him try that. Call me a band wagon fan. But really, at 147? "The Most Feared Man", is going to run out of options. delaying the inevitable while ppl have him ranked 1. trying to enjoy and milk it while they can.

"Cotto would fold PWill like a folding chair". Somebody told me that. I'd really like to see him try that. Call me a band wagon fan. But really, at 147? "The Most Feared Man", is going to run out of options.

LOL i cant believe the creator of this thread thinks gomez is a good fighter.. he's a d class fighter and complete garbage.. kolle is pretty sorry too but atleast williams moved up in weight class and koed the guy in the first round.. thats more impressive than cotto's bum win against gomez that ended in like the 5th or 6th round.. cotto probably could of and should have koed gomez in the first round instead of showboating

Like I have said before. Whats the problem? PWill WANTS the rematch. Margarito? Not so much, it seems. Make all the sigs, and jokes you want. At 147, until proved different, PWill is the man. Plain and Simple Common Sense. Or does that "scary" shit only apply towards Marg? Hey, just fight the man that got you, folks. Stop fishing. You want a fight, fight the dude that has been calling you out.

He moved up in weight and knocked a guy out in the first round. Sure Kolle wasn't good but it's a fairly decent accomplishment. Considering he will jump right back down and fight at 147 in November. Why bring up Cotto?

Yes and I suppose fighting lower then your natural weight has advantages? Pac got K.O'd in the lower weights. Cotto got stunned ALOT at 140. So who are we to say what his natural weight is. tu eres cerado.cotto started at lightweight.apples and oranges.

Cotto takes on Alfonso Gomez who is a much better fighter and has a better record then Andy Kolle and he gets mad shit about it, even though it's only supposed to be a stay active fight. Williams fights Kolle and not a damn thing is said.. even though his last opponents have lost more then half their fights. Now that he won in a first round KO the hype job continues. :lol1: LOL @ you people. Couple of things: Kolle is a middleweight who wasn't stopped until like round 6 against Andre Ward. Ward fights at Super Middle now. Also Ward had made him quit. Not viciously KO him like Williams did. Andy Kolle might be a lesser fighter than Alfonso Gomez in a p4p sense, but Williams looked good in doing so. He had good head movement and seemed to have the same speed he had at welterweight. He had popped and landed some very nice counters. Cotto toyed with Gomez in a fight that everyone thought that Cotto was going dispatch him sooner or in more impressive fashion. Williams was supposed to win, but just most likely in a points victory and get him some rounds to stay active. Also you make Andy Kolle's resume sound like shit, and it is, but you under play it. Kolle was coming off wins of Johnathan Reid and Matt Vanda. He was increasing his comp generally. williams.. He Couldn't Hang With People His Own Size So He Had To Move Wayy Down. I'd Like To See Him In Against Someone His Own Size (pavlik) He'd Be Kissing Canvas And Showing Everyone Why It Is He Ran From That Weight. Three things here: 1. If he couldn't hang at Middleweight then why was he undefeated? Williams could make 147 and that's why he moved down. Like I said in my other thread, if it's controlled like the second quintana fight (in which he only rehydrated to 156) then he can make it fine. 2. He'd be kissing the canvas? Isn't that funny when you have Mosley in your avatar? According to your awesome logic, Mosley ran from JLC and then went to DLH. This means he should have gotten crushed. Granted I don't think he can beat Pavlik, but if Mosley could have a chance then why couldn't Williams. 3. He'd be kissing the canvas based on what? His incredibly weak chin he showed against Margarito? Question: If Williams is killing himself to make 147 and should be fighting at 160 then shouldn't he be rocked by a lot of welterweight shots and be chinny like Cotto was at 140? Also how come Williams is so drained he can throw like 100 punches a round? If Cotto can become stronger at a bigger weight class then why can't Williams? Same with Mosley for that matter. Shit half your fighters in your sig can be better at different weight classes. Cotto at 147, Corrales at 135 was still strong, Mosley at 147 and, Guzman at 130. He "ran" from that weight so bad he tried to make a fight with Winky Wright (in which was cancelled because HBO had no more money for that type of fight) and also Kelly Pavlik remember? paul williams started at middleweight, so that means nothing? It shows he might be able to compete with middleweights and remember all those fights he could fight at welterweight? Incufan is dead on the money with this, if you can make weight YOU MAKE IT. My only concern is Williams' health in draining, but last time he only rehydrated to 156 so he obviously prepared himself a lot better.

So is Paul Williams. He started out at Middle Weight. Yes I know that, but he's been fighting at WW. Does that make him a puss, I know to some people it does, but I don't think so. People just need to get over this whole height and reach issue with him. He's been fighting at WW and probably will have at least one more fight there against Marge I hope and then he'll probably move up after that unless there are other good money fights there for him. I agree Kolle wasn't a wolrld beater, but didn't Paul do what he needed to do then. If the fight would have been extended than we all know Williams would be taking a lot of shit for it.

If Gomez was two weight classes bigger than Cotto and Cotto came out and starched him in one round then yeah the comparison would be good. Paul was basically thought of as a slap fighter before these last two fights and now he's got two first round KO's in a row. I know Kolle isn't the greatest, but he's a MW. So is Paul Williams. He started out at Middle Weight.

LOL@guessing my age.Nice try though. If he doesn't shut him the fuck up. He and many Margarito fans are the loudest- and most racist. So obviously your problem is really with Margarito fans rather than the fighter himself.

Old enough to know the difference between "there" and "their". Don't worry bro- VIVA MEXICO will come out of hiding in about a week or so and validate all the racist spam on this page about every fighter not being Mexican being a coward. Then you can rejoice. Again with Viva mexico, who gives a fuck about this fool! he's young buck just like you, that's why he talks like that. he dont represent us!

Pernell who is 5'5 and a half looked GREAT against DLH Tito and JCV at 154. Remember he was only 5'5 and a half...Its about FRAME. Height doesn't indicate a person's offical weight...Watch Diego vs Clottey. again with the frame.picture this:D a guy,starts off at middleweight right,what does that make him at first? huh? if he goes down in weight, what does he look like then?huh?

And most of your posts are nuthugging Margarine. Stop being a fanboy. stop being a fanboy huh? you got me their, how old are you again?

williams.. He Couldn't Hang With People His Own Size So He Had To Move Wayy Down. I'd Like To See Him In Against Someone His Own Size (pavlik) He'd Be Kissing Canvas And Showing Everyone Why It Is He Ran From That Weight. Huh?? Come On Playboy. Listen To Yourself.

Most Margarito fans are idiots. So that explains that. How old are you? everytime I see one of your post it's allways some dumb ass childish shit!

Williams.. he couldn't hang with people his own size so he had to move wayy down. I'd like to see him in against someone his own size (Pavlik) He'd be kissing canvas and showing everyone why it is he ran from that weight. so you rather see Williams/Pavlik than Williams/Margarito? is that the point of this thread

.....so is Williams He can fight at all sorts or different ranges. Again if he can make the weight at WW during the weigh in than he's allowed to fight there. I know your a Marge fan and hate to see what Williams did tonight. So I know your just hating and won't give Williams credit for anything.