you think lacy would beat Pavlik? who did Lacy beat? what did he earn? nothing that's what. He beat a slew of bums, thats not what Pavlik did. Pavlik would kill Calzaghe.
And Pavlik beat a slew of bums.........and Taylor.
Ohhhh shit. ATG Status Confirmed bitches!!!
you think lacy would beat Pavlik? who did Lacy beat? what did he earn? nothing that's what. He beat a slew of bums, thats not what Pavlik did. Pavlik would kill Calzaghe.
with the exception of taylor, pavlik had pretty much fought bums too
Its not an easy concept to figure out. Pavlik has done what exactly that puts him above Jeff Lacy's status pre-Calzaghe.
Beat Taylor?
The excuse could easily be modified to "Pavlik is shit, HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN SHIT. He beat one decent fighter who was OVERRATED in Taylor".
Seriously watch this space. I actually think Calzaghe will fight Pavlik and I can see the "Calzaghe is running from Dawson" threads coming up soon.
"OMG Pavlik beat one guy - wow who cares? Dawson beat Taver AND Johnson". :wank:
you think lacy would beat Pavlik? who did Lacy beat? what did he earn? nothing that's what. He beat a slew of bums, thats not what Pavlik did. Pavlik would kill Calzaghe.
That's funny, everyone seemed to think that Arthur Abraham was the shit after knocking out Edison Miranda... basing his "greatness" primarily on that win... not to mention Miranda is also on Pavlik's resume.
This thread is flawed anyway. As others have said, fans should simply enjoy watching great fights and not get so caught up with loyalties to individual fighters to the point that they bend over backwards arguing their dominance or making excuses for their shortcomings. In the end, those people always end up looking like little bitches and having to eat their words instead of just being able to shrug off errors in judgement and move on.
I don't see your point. We are talking resumes, thats all. Kessler > Pavlik > Abraham in that regard for me, although I can understand why others feel Pavlik's is better than Kessler's
I love stupid threads like this... what if Roy beats Joe... will that make you dumb?
Yes, it will. It will make me the dumbest motherfucker ever to walk the face of the earth, let alone post here. Why? I predict with 100% certainty that calzaghe will win and Jones has no chance. Since I'm so confident, if it goes the other way then I must be an imbecile.
I agree. One opponent does not a resume make, especially when that opponent is Jermain Taylor.
That's funny, everyone seemed to think that Arthur Abraham was the shit after knocking out Edison Miranda... basing his "greatness" primarily on that win... not to mention Miranda is also on Pavlik's resume.
This thread is flawed anyway. As others have said, fans should simply enjoy watching great fights and not get so caught up with loyalties to individual fighters to the point that they bend over backwards exalting that fighter's dominance or making excuses for their shortcomings. In the end, those people always end up looking like little bitches and having to eat their words instead of just being able to shrug off errors in judgement and move on.
Some of you guys are complete asses. If Pavlik loses we will say hes overrated? What the fuck are you ass clowns smoking. Any one with a brain would admit that they were wrong and that it was a great win by Calzaghe. You asshole act like people discredit anyone Joe beats when in reality thats not true. Yeah Lacy is shit, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SHIT. Lacy was overblown and didnt beat anyone worth a shit. Pavlik actually beat solid fighter and wouldn't be scoffed at if Calzaghe won. You guys are assholes. Lacy and kessler didn't beat anyone. So the wins should be discredited. Pavlik is not even in the same realm as that. Use your fucking heads.
Its not an easy concept to figure out. Pavlik has done what exactly that puts him above Jeff Lacy's status pre-Calzaghe.
Beat Taylor?
The excuse could easily be modified to "Pavlik is shit, HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN SHIT. He beat one decent fighter who was OVERRATED in Taylor".
Seriously watch this space. I actually think Calzaghe will fight Pavlik and I can see the "Calzaghe is running from Dawson" threads coming up soon.
"OMG Pavlik beat one guy - wow who cares? Dawson beat Taver AND Johnson". :wank:
good post. it does not make anyone better or worse if they pick wrong. who cares? what matters is that the fight gets made, and the best man wins. thats it. end of story. i like both fighters, pavlik a little more, but couldn't care less if i pick pav and he loses. you win some picks, you lose some picks...........at the end of the day.........it is what it is. i am a boxing fan. i want the big fights regardless of whether my boy wins or loses. fan of the sport always comes first with me!
boxing fans want this happen, some calzaghe fans like him and his record more then sport right now it seems.
Kessler's resume IMO is better than Pavliks. Pavlik has beaten Miranda and Taylor and well thats it. Kessler has beaten perhaps lesser competition (certainly better than Miranda who is a one dimensional slugger) but more of it. He has beaten Beyer, Sicia, Andrade, Sartison, Mundine. 3 of those were or become world Champions. Andrade is fighting for a title next. Pavlik has beaten Miranda and Taylor who many people said before the fight was a rubbish fighter and deserved to lose to Spinks/Winky/Hopkins. Then all of a sudden when he gets rid of Taylor he's a great win for Pavlik.
I agree. One opponent does not a resume make, especially when that opponent is Jermain Taylor.
Some of you guys are complete asses. If Pavlik loses we will say hes overrated? What the fuck are you ass clowns smoking. Any one with a brain would admit that they were wrong and that it was a great win by Calzaghe. You asshole act like people discredit anyone Joe beats when in reality thats not true. Yeah Lacy is shit, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SHIT. Lacy was overblown and didnt beat anyone worth a shit. Pavlik actually beat solid fighter and wouldn't be scoffed at if Calzaghe won. You guys are assholes. Lacy and kessler didn't beat anyone. So the wins should be discredited. Pavlik is not even in the same realm as that. Use your fucking heads.
Kessler's resume IMO is better than Pavliks. Pavlik has beaten Miranda and Taylor and well thats it. Kessler has beaten perhaps lesser competition (certainly better than Miranda who is a one dimensional slugger) but more of it. He has beaten Beyer, Sicia, Andrade, Sartison, Mundine. 3 of those were or become world Champions. Andrade is fighting for a title next. Pavlik has beaten Miranda and Taylor who many people said before the fight was a rubbish fighter and deserved to lose to Spinks/Winky/Hopkins. Then all of a sudden when he gets rid of Taylor he's a great win for Pavlik.
Good point. Before I became a boxing fan, I was widely regarded by my peers as an intelligent, ambitious young go-getter. Now they view me as a cretin. Draw your own conclusions.
I've only ever known you from this 'boxing forum' thus, as a dappy cunt. So I can't really comment.
I have noticed that I've been wearing odd socks more and more lately. On my hands.
fan of the sport always comes first with me!
This is a concept a lot of people on these boards have yet to grasp. Instead you get...
Brit vs. Yank
My fave fighter vs. yours
yada, yada.
And the lengths people go to prove the infallibility of their fighters...yikes.
Some of you guys are complete asses. If Pavlik loses we will say hes overrated? What the fuck are you ass clowns smoking. Any one with a brain would admit that they were wrong and that it was a great win by Calzaghe. You asshole act like people discredit anyone Joe beats when in reality thats not true. Yeah Lacy is shit, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SHIT. Lacy was overblown and didnt beat anyone worth a shit. Pavlik actually beat solid fighter and wouldn't be scoffed at if Calzaghe won. You guys are assholes. Lacy and kessler didn't beat anyone. So the wins should be discredited. Pavlik is not even in the same realm as that. Use your fucking heads.good post. it does not make anyone better or worse if they pick wrong. who cares? what matters is that the fight gets made, and the best man wins. thats it. end of story. i like both fighters, pavlik a little more, but couldn't care less if i pick pav and he loses. you win some picks, you lose some picks...........at the end of the day.........it is what it is. i am a boxing fan. i want the big fights regardless of whether my boy wins or loses. fan of the sport always comes first with me!
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