Well, he keeps calling out PAC despite the fact he was beaten twice, dropped on his ass 4 times, even made to look stupid when he didnt know where his corner was.
If he is really after his legacy and proving hes better than the fighters he supposedly beat, he should call out Chris John too. Even go to Indonesia, appear in some talk show and publicly challenge CJ!...LMAO!
I'm an Indonesian and i will tell the truth that i hate Chris John,
he is not professional, he is even not at weight so he didn't show up at the weigh in
when he suppose to fight Jackson Asiku last month.
So the fight he got now only the mandatory defense against Hiroyuki Enoki in Japan
and about the Juarez fight. John claims that Juarez was taking too long to respond
so they switched to Jackson Asiku instead.
According to me, chris john is just a gay boxer, he doesn't have guts to fight in the us
because he is scared.
the only fighter from indonesia who i like is only Daud Yordan
he just fight at Casamayor vs Marquez undercard against Antonio Meza
and he won by Majority decision (78-74; 78-74; 76-76)
his record are very good 21(18)-0-0
so if somebody would fight marquez i would recommend him
remember when marquez beat chris john. That was funny cause he clearly won but then the verdict was read and lols ensued
I'm an Indonesian and i will tell the truth that i hate Chris John,
he is not professional, he is even not at weight so he didn't show up at the weigh in
when he suppose to fight Jackson Asiku last month.
So the fight he got now only the mandatory defense against Hiroyuki Enoki in Japan
and about the Juarez fight. John claims that Juarez was taking too long to respond
so they switched to Jackson Asiku instead.
According to me, chris john is just a gay boxer, he doesn't have guts to fight in the us
because he is scared.
the only fighter from indonesia who i like is only Daud Yordan
he just fight at Casamayor vs Marquez undercard against Antonio Meza
and he won by Majority decision (78-74; 78-74; 76-76)
his record are very good 21(18)-0-0
so if somebody would fight marquez i would recommend him
Bottomline,
EM beat PAC the first time because it was PAC's first time stepping up in the 130lb division and decided to take on a FHOFer with no tuneup and I felt that PAC also gave EM a lil too much respect, rather than stand toe toe during the early to mid rounds PAC I thought was giving away rounds by back pedaling too much.
2nd - badly cut eye, when you suffer a bad injury it hampers one's ability to execute the gameplan. From the 5th round on, PAC pretty much fought on survival instincts.
3rd - the gloves(not neccessarily the reason for PAC's lost, but it allowed Erika to absorb the punches better therefore preserving his strength for the later rounds.
4th - PAC inexplicably stopped going to the body(If y'all have the chance to see the fight again, watch the 1st round, PAC landed 2-3 hooks to the body that nearly broke Morales in half and had him backin' up, PAC continued to go the body in the 2nd round as well and that was the last time PAC focused on EM's body and the rest is history).
PAC - EM part 2, PAC comes in and basically executed his gameplan and he wasn't backin' up as much as he did the first time. Even when Erika was getting the better of the exchanges in the earlier rounds PAC this time was standing his ground. And if y'all still don't think there's a difference between Winning gloves vs Cleto Reyes gloves, just check EM's face in the first fight compared to the second! Lastly, no cut eye!
The Trilogy - not much here, Erika was simply too weight drained!
But I don't buy the sh*t that the Mex*cu*ts are spewing as far as "If EM was in his prime PAC would never beat him" Bull f**kin' sh*t. For as long as speed and power is on PAC's side, he'll always have the advantage over Erika if they fought 100 times!
As far as Erika whuppin' on Zahir if they fought in a different time. I say bullsh*t, Zahir with his lightning speed and movement would've given Erika problems no matter which version of Erika he faced. And just to let ya know, I was one of the few that picked Zahir to beat Erika in a dominating fashion, speed kills that's all there's to it!
agreed. speed kills that is why usain bolt is the next heavyweight champ of the world.
Bottomline,
EM beat PAC the first time because it was PAC's first time stepping up in the 130lb division and decided to take on a FHOFer with no tuneup and I felt that PAC also gave EM a lil too much respect, rather than stand toe toe during the early to mid rounds PAC I thought was giving away rounds by back pedaling too much.
2nd - badly cut eye, when you suffer a bad injury it hampers one's ability to execute the gameplan. From the 5th round on, PAC pretty much fought on survival instincts.
3rd - the gloves(not neccessarily the reason for PAC's lost, but it allowed Erika to absorb the punches better therefore preserving his strength for the later rounds.
4th - PAC inexplicably stopped going to the body(If y'all have the chance to see the fight again, watch the 1st round, PAC landed 2-3 hooks to the body that nearly broke Morales in half and had him backin' up, PAC continued to go the body in the 2nd round as well and that was the last time PAC focused on EM's body and the rest is history).
PAC - EM part 2, PAC comes in and basically executed his gameplan and he wasn't backin' up as much as he did the first time. Even when Erika was getting the better of the exchanges in the earlier rounds PAC this time was standing his ground. And if y'all still don't think there's a difference between Winning gloves vs Cleto Reyes gloves, just check EM's face in the first fight compared to the second! Lastly, no cut eye!
As far as Erika whuppin' on Zahir if they fought in a different time. I say bullsh*t, Zahir with his lightning speed and movement would've given Erika problems no matter which version of Erika he faced. And just to let ya know, I was one of the few that picked Zahir to beat Erika in a dominating fashion, speed kills that's all there's to it!
Oh damn dude i never looked at it that way! Hey guys this guys is right quit giving Morales credit for the Pac win. Pac had a cut eye and it was his first time at 130. He also didnt go to the body enough so all of those reasons are why he lost. Zahir Raheem should go down as one of the ATG for beating Morales before Pac ever did with his tremendous speed. MASGAGOMEXI you are a fucking genius, green k going your way buddy.
It's no different than any other fighter. Rarely do you get a fighter who beats another top, great fighter and there is not a valid excuse.
Pacquiao is actually one of the truly blessed fighters to have one of those fights under his belt, when he beat Marco Antonio Barrera the first time, and it was in a dominating fashion.
But, dude... really... Erik Morales was actually really close to out the door by the time Pacquiao avenged his first defeat. No way Zahir Raheem toys with an Erik Morales who still has a lot left. Barrera was on his way out too in the rematch, although I don't think nearly as much as most people say. Marquez is on top of the world, but whether you are a Marquez or Pacquiao fan, I think you should have a problem with saying your fighter clearly won... that fight was razor close, and neither fighter dominated enough to have the clear victory.
Pacquiao did leave some unfinished business at 130 in Soto, Guzman and Valero, because they are all worthy contenders, but I don't think that a fighter has to fight every single worthy contender. They are allowed to pass some over, as long as they are still fighting other worthy contenders... David Diaz is probably a tougher challenge than Edwin Valero. De La Hoya is going to be hard as hell because he is like 20 weight classes bigger than Pacquaio. Ricky Hatton will be very big too.
Pacquiao is the far and away P4P #1 fighter resume-wise. Talent-wise? I don't think you can make the argument that he is far and away ahead, because, even after a 1-0-1 official record against Marquez, I have a problem with anyone saying that Pacquiao has actually separated himself from Marquez in head to head competition.
The only reason that it seems like people only apply these standards to Pacquiao is because he is such a big star that people pay attention. He has a lot of fans and a lot of haters, which is going to breed a lot of idiots.
Very good post. + Karma
careful or he'll resort to calling you a ******* even though you arent mexican, a marquez nuthugger and say "your people" started it first. This dude doesnt talk boxing, he talks Pacquioa and Marquez only. He still thinks this is highschool.
Lol, you know I don't care about that...
I just hadn't posted a post of 100% truth and knowledge today.
All I do is make plays 2501...
It's no different than any other fighter. Rarely do you get a fighter who beats another top, great fighter and there is not a valid excuse.
Pacquiao is actually one of the truly blessed fighters to have one of those fights under his belt, when he beat Marco Antonio Barrera the first time, and it was in a dominating fashion.
But, dude... really... Erik Morales was actually really close to out the door by the time Pacquiao avenged his first defeat. No way Zahir Raheem toys with an Erik Morales who still has a lot left. Barrera was on his way out too in the rematch, although I don't think nearly as much as most people say. Marquez is on top of the world, but whether you are a Marquez or Pacquiao fan, I think you should have a problem with saying your fighter clearly won... that fight was razor close, and neither fighter dominated enough to have the clear victory.
Pacquiao did leave some unfinished business at 130 in Soto, Guzman and Valero, because they are all worthy contenders, but I don't think that a fighter has to fight every single worthy contender. They are allowed to pass some over, as long as they are still fighting other worthy contenders... David Diaz is probably a tougher challenge than Edwin Valero. De La Hoya is going to be hard as hell because he is like 20 weight classes bigger than Pacquaio. Ricky Hatton will be very big too.
Pacquiao is the far and away P4P #1 fighter resume-wise. Talent-wise? I don't think you can make the argument that he is far and away ahead, because, even after a 1-0-1 official record against Marquez, I have a problem with anyone saying that Pacquiao has actually separated himself from Marquez in head to head competition.
The only reason that it seems like people only apply these standards to Pacquiao is because he is such a big star that people pay attention. He has a lot of fans and a lot of haters, which is going to breed a lot of idiots.
careful or he'll resort to calling you a ******* even though you arent mexican, a marquez nuthugger and say "your people" started it first. This dude doesnt talk boxing, he talks Pacquioa and Marquez only. He still thinks this is highschool.
LOL.... Please, this is pathetic... You calling my countrymen the worst when Mexicans here have/is/will always be discrediting every single fight PAC has... You acting like your countrymen dont talk shit....
Oh, PAC is ducking Moe, Larry, Curly.... Oh, Pac is taking steroids... Pac is fighting washed up fighters..... And now, you get a taste of the same medicine your countrymen has dished out, and we are the worst.???? LMAO..
Question: Is double standards and hypocricy taught to you people at a young age, or is it inherent in your culture???
alright, so post these examples. cuz i can bet you right now i can post more examples from your homeboys.
LOL.... Please, this is pathetic... You calling my countrymen the worst when Mexicans here have/is/will always be discrediting every single fight PAC has... You acting like your countrymen dont talk shit....
Oh, PAC is ducking Moe, Larry, Curly.... Oh, Pac is taking steroids... Pac is fighting washed up fighters..... And now, you get a taste of the same medicine your countrymen has dished out, and we are the worst.???? LMAO..
Question: Is double standards and hypocracy taught to you people at a young age, or is it inherent in your culture???
It's no different than any other fighter. Rarely do you get a fighter who beats another top, great fighter and there is not a valid excuse.
Pacquiao is actually one of the truly blessed fighters to have one of those fights under his belt, when he beat Marco Antonio Barrera the first time, and it was in a dominating fashion.
But, dude... really... Erik Morales was actually really close to out the door by the time Pacquiao avenged his first defeat. No way Zahir Raheem toys with an Erik Morales who still has a lot left. Barrera was on his way out too in the rematch, although I don't think nearly as much as most people say. Marquez is on top of the world, but whether you are a Marquez or Pacquiao fan, I think you should have a problem with saying your fighter clearly won... that fight was razor close, and neither fighter dominated enough to have the clear victory.
Pacquiao did leave some unfinished business at 130 in Soto, Guzman and Valero, because they are all worthy contenders, but I don't think that a fighter has to fight every single worthy contender. They are allowed to pass some over, as long as they are still fighting other worthy contenders... David Diaz is probably a tougher challenge than Edwin Valero. De La Hoya is going to be hard as hell because he is like 20 weight classes bigger than Pacquaio. Ricky Hatton will be very big too.
Pacquiao is the far and away P4P #1 fighter resume-wise. Talent-wise? I don't think you can make the argument that he is far and away ahead, because, even after a 1-0-1 official record against Marquez, I have a problem with anyone saying that Pacquiao has actually separated himself from Marquez in head to head competition.
The only reason that it seems like people only apply these standards to Pacquiao is because he is such a big star that people pay attention. He has a lot of fans and a lot of haters, which is going to breed a lot of idiots.
Didnt rocky juarez try to fight that guy? I think John needs to leave asia before even thinking about fighting anyone, that guy seems to be hard to reach.
Chris John is pretty much irrelevant at this point and you would be hard pressed to find any real boxing fan or knowledgeable expert who would suggest a rematch to avenge the loss. It is just not worth the effort where there are bigger opportunities. JMM going after Hatton is ovbiously a pretty clever swipe at Pacquiao and it seems like JMM is out to make his own name. I still find it laughable that you and your fellow countrymen are discrediting the Casamayor win and the possible bout with Hatton seeing the physical disadvantages. I thought Floyd Mayweather fans were the worst. Now I'm starting to miss them.
I just saw the new HULK movie today on DVD, that's why I mentioned it. It's a pretty good movie.
Yeah? I'll check it out. I imagine Edward Norton was a better Bruce?
Personally I think the win over Casamayor (yes he was old, but he was also bigger than anyone else Marquez faced, and he KO'd him) is actually a bigger benefit to his career than a rematch with John would have been.
No question. I don't really care much about John unless he starts going out of his shell and starts exploring the world outside.
The Casa win will open new doors for Marquez. He's his own man now other than being Pac's foil.
Oh shit don't piss Jose Rizal....that guy has been my e-best friend for 4 years now. I know quite a lot about him....he's the HULK..........LOL!!
LOL... I ain't no hothead like Bruce Banner. :firedevil
Personally I think the win over Casamayor (yes he was old, but he was also bigger than anyone else Marquez faced, and he KO'd him) is actually a bigger benefit to his career than a rematch with John would have been.
Fair enough... my dick remarks were just in response to your own clever use of my original retort of "it's not very hard".
That, I don't know...
Probably because he thought he won the fight and didn't want to travel back to Indonesia to get the same result as he got the first time. Whether the decision was fair or not, Marquez obviously didn't think so.
John is very hard to lure out of Indonesia it seems...
And really, I don't think this loss is really that big of a deal at this point. People are more worried about him actually getting a win over Pacquaio.
Well IMO, the money wasn't worth the aggravation with John because at the time, it was much a big blot on his career as having lost his belt to Pac at 130, however it was something he was willing to let pass. Pac however was dangling a bigger carrot, but with this impressive win against Casa, maybe Team Marquez realized Pac ain't the only game in town. They've got other options as big or even more rewarding than Pac. Anyway, that's how they're sounding right now, and I agree.
Hatton would be big legacy and money opportunity for JMM as it would be for Pac and the talk about going after bigger and more dangerous fish and ignoring 135 as being a bitch move (like some people were saying with Pac) has got to end.
I was posting my own question. So why wasn't he as fussy back at 126 like he is right now?
Not being an American, English is very difficult for me. You've got to cut me some slack when it comes to grammar.
Fair enough... my dick remarks were just in response to your own clever use of my original retort of "it's not very hard".
That, I don't know...
Probably because he thought he won the fight and didn't want to travel back to Indonesia to get the same result as he got the first time. Whether the decision was fair or not, Marquez obviously didn't think so.
John is very hard to lure out of Indonesia it seems...
And really, I don't think this loss is really that big of a deal at this point. People are more worried about him actually getting a win over Pacquaio.
Trying - Present progressive form of try.
English language, learn it Jose.
I was posting my own question. So why wasn't he as fussy back at 126 like he is right now?
Not being an American, English is very difficult for me. You've got to cut me some slack when it comes to grammar.
Ok now that man lovefest is over lets get back to the issue, why isn't JMM trying to redeem himself against John?
Like I also wrote a few pages back, why didn't Marquez make such a big fuss right after the fight with John when they were both at 126? Almost nobody cares about a John rematch today, but why wasn't Marquez whining like a bitch back then like he's doing with Pac right now?
That wasn't too difficult as well now, was it?
Trying - Present progressive form of try.
English language, learn it Jose.
Marquez never had troubled making 130.. They can fight at 130.. It was Pacquiao who was in trouble making weight.. The only reason why Marquez is at 135 because he is chasing Pacquiao's ass.. As JMM said, he can fight at 130 and 135.
Fair enough. What has Chris John said about fighting at 130?
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