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why the hell is Calzaghe above Marquez Perhaps check the date on the post. :ugh:

why the hell is Calzaghe above Marquez Here's the updated list: 1. Manny Pacquiao 2. JM Marquez 3. Joe Calzaghe 4. Bernard Hopkins 5. Israel Vasquez 6. Antonio Margarito 7. Kelly Pavlik 8. Cristian Mijares 9. Rafael Marquez 10. Miguel Cotto http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

why the hell is Calzaghe above Marquez

Good posts in here, but some ego's were deeply wounded when Margarito battered Cotto. But I would definitely have Mijares higher up on this list than Margarito. Also, I wouldn't put Hopkins on there and would add Calderon. Unless Hopkins beats Pavlik then he's right back in there. Calderon isnt better than Ulises Solis and Edgar Sosa, i think also Calderon isn´t better than Viloria.

of course roy doesnt belong on the p4p list :rofl::rofl:you did have me worried for a mo then mate !

Oh so you are kidding then! for a minute there i actually thought you was being serious lol PMSL of course roy doesnt belong on the p4p list :rofl:

he just beat tito trinidad.............Oh so you are kidding then! for a minute there i actually thought you was being serious lol PMSL

Roy at #8!? i just spat my tea at the screen !you are kidding right?? on what merit??:Thinkingo he just beat tito trinidad.............

roy should at least be #8 on the p4p list I dunno dude, I'm a big roy fan and he looked damn impressive in his last few fights (at parts anyway), but the opposition has been lacking and he is too close to the devastating losses without recognizable wins. On the other hand, I'm too lazy to make a top ten list so yeah, why not? He'll definitely hit that list like a brick if he takes out Calzaghe.

roy should at least be #8 on the p4p listRoy at #8!? i just spat my tea at the screen !you are kidding right?? on what merit??:Thinkingo

Where would you have Roy? I don't think I'd have Roy above some of the bigger names in the smaller divisions. roy should at least be #8 on the p4p list

wheres roy? are you serious? bullshit ass list. Where would you have Roy? I don't think I'd have Roy above some of the bigger names in the smaller divisions.

wheres roy? are you serious? bullshit ass list. He'll be there soon!

wheres roy? are you serious? bullshit ass list.

Wow A Phillippino That Knows Something About Boxing Aside From Pacqiao. What's The World Coming Too? I Wasn't Saying Juanma Was P4p Level Yet. Just Used His Win As A Comparison To Margarita's Win Over Kermit. Joe Calzaghe Is Shit. When The Best Win Of Your Career Is A 43 Yr. Old Man , You Ain't Fought No One. Hopkins Wasn't Even That Good In His Prime. Floyd's Career Is Overrated. Castillo And Corrales Were Good Fighters Nothing More. Baldomir Was Garbage. Zab Had Skills But Mentally Weak Like Cintron. Ricky Is One Of A Long Line Of Overrated Brits. Oscar Is A Shell Of His Former Self , That'll Become Evident When He Loses To Pacqiao. Wow you're underestimating the careers of Corrales and Castillo greatly. Castillo got his first world title from long term reigning lightweight champ Stevie Johnston. Then he goes onto beat the only other man to lift Johnston's title and faces his most grueling fight against Maweather. That fight doesn't prove that Mayweather is overrated, it proves that Castillo is underrated by casual fans like yourself. Then, past his prime, he goes onto beat the good version of Diaz, Casamayor, Lazcano, and Corrales. Then you have Corrales, who took the absolute hardest defenses at SuerFeather, before getting outclassed by Mayweather. Again, this doesn't prove that Corrales was overrated, it shows that Mayweather is that boxer that comes along once in a generation if we're lucky. I'm not even a big mayweather fan, but to deny his skill is to deny that you even follow the sport. After being humiliated by Mayweather losing every round and getting knocked down 5 times, he goes up a division to win a title against Casamayor in two unforgettable battles, and has fight of the year against Castillo winning by TKO to unify their belts. Let's also not forget that he beat undefeated Freitas by knockout. And then you go on to say that Bernard was never that good even in his prime. Dude just stop posting here...

Ok... quit to Miguel Cotto and put Cottley name, is fair to me. That chick has an amazing ass, damn dude why did you do that to me. And the guy with the Meximullet.......puta madre that shit is fucking serious!! BEst pic I have seen so far, that shit is terrible....

Kermit Cintron Wasn't That Good. Juanma Lopez's Win Over Ponce De Leon Was A Better Win. Bahahaha! Oh man im crackin up over here! Pone De Lon was a fucking top of the list bum with a belt.

You Don't Think The Floyd Nuthuggers In Here Overrate Him? He Had Good Wins At 130 And 135. But Hernandez Was Past His Best And While Castillo And Corrales Are Good Fighters They're Not Greats. Who Did He Fight At 140? Ward's Better Half? Who Did He Fight At 147? The Guys He Should Have Fought At 140? But If You Read How The Flomos Talk About Him You'd Think He Beat Arguello At 130 , Duran At 135 , Pryor At 140 And Benitez At 147 Or Something. I don't give shit with those flomos, Floyd is not overrated with regards to being no.1 in the p4p list, I will not argue with who had beaten. I think it was you who's underrating the likes of JCL and Corrales.

Hopkins at 4 is a joke and Margarito at 6 an even bigger one. P4P?!?! Who has Margarito beaten that's bigger than him? He can't deal with southpaws either. Slow-ass, one-dimensional, average-power having brawler. Paul Williams has much more skill than him. Cotto at 10 is also laughable. That's pretty much where my head was at too. Hopkins at 4? Margarito shouldn't even be on the least and if anything at 10.

You can always make your own list but I trust the RING's list. Juanma was a prospect before he blew out Ponce. Before that he was fighting mediocre fighters.....a few more named/rated fighters then he will rise up in the lists. Even if you have the best skill in the business, if you don't step your competition up you won't be rated. For example, Juan Manuel Marquez for a long time was the greatest counterpuncher we have ever seen, but didn't make the list until he stepped up and fought Pacquiao to a draw. There are also a lot of skilled fighters better than the fighters in the list but will never be known until they fight highly rated fighters. Everybody wished they were Margarito when he destroyed Cintron and Cotto. Calzaghe after a reign of 18 defenses finally stepped up and fought better competiton including highly rated Kessler and P4P top fighter Bernard Hopkins (who beat Tarver and Winky). Tarver and Winky were both on the list of P4P when Hop defeated them. Floyd was already in the list even before Pacquiao. He fought and won against Castillo, Corrales, and Chavez. He maintained his status by fighting game Mitchell, Ndou etc....... He only got to top 1 when Bernard lost his fight to Jermain. Good posts in here, but some ego's were deeply wounded when Margarito battered Cotto. But I would definitely have Mijares higher up on this list than Margarito. Also, I wouldn't put Hopkins on there and would add Calderon. Unless Hopkins beats Pavlik then he's right back in there.