so dios domincano and everyone else who is scared of who now? The truth comes out and now you guys look like fools! Like i said williams is opening his mouth looking for a payday and like diaz's states "williams didnt want the immediate rematch so williams can wait in line"
Now all these margarito is ducking williams bull shit threads can stop. Reality is margarito fought him and williams ducked and declined the immediate rematch so who's scared of who again?
You just put your foot in your mouth. Watch this: Look, we aren't kids here. Nobody is thinking Margs is some chump. I respect Margs. You are looking in the wrong direction if you are quoting my posts thinking I don't respect Margs. I might make fun of Margs like I do any boxer, but I will never lie or slander a fighter. Nobody is trying to discredit Margs, but you can't change history. WAS THERE A REMATCH CLAUSE? Sound like no(maybe) because they gave Williams the option of either fighting a rematch or another fight before the rematch. WILLIAMS LOST SO YOU HAVE NO POINT. If that part is true about Margs wanting a rematch which I know he did, you make it seem like Williams said no to a rematch when after the fight he said he would. Williams and his people probably advised him to fight another fight who knows. We have to hear Williams side of the story.
You say we have to hear Williams side of the story. ok im fine with that i wont jump on Williams and his fans yet till we know the full story. but my problem is why havent u waited to hear Margarito's side of the story the last couple weeks on when he wants to fight williams again??? instead u blast him not knowing what he and his team have in mind! Can you fault Margarito's fans for jumping on williams fans when all you guys have done is talk shit not knowing the whole fuckin story???
Bullshhhhhh, he wasn't agressive enough at persuing a Williams rematch and you know it.
Stop fooling yourself.
margarito aint no crybaby like williams. he asked for the immediate rematch and the coward williams didnt wnat to give it to him so he went and fought other guys and took care of his business. williams is the one crying and bitching now and i didnt here him calling margaritos name until he beat cotto.
The first fight was an easy fight for Quintana. This is boxing, and people do get hit in the face. 116-112 on 2 cards thats 8-4 and the other was 115-113 that was 7-5.
By the looks of the first two cards, that was pretty damn decisive.
That's almost the same as Margarito-Williams, yet you claimed that fight was ultra close. You can't have it both ways H-Town LOL. 118-110 is easy. If you're losing rounds, then no way can you call it "easy".
margarito is not a man to make excuses and he had no reason to bother with that coward williams when he was getting things in place for fights with cintron and cotto.
For your sake, I hope you're joking lol.
yes there was. Margarito wanted the immediate rematch! They sent the letter to the wbo and boxingscene. if you go far back enough you will find it in the archives. It just the dumb margarito haters that had nothing to say so they come up with this margarito is scared and ducking williams when the truth comes out its williams who was ducking and declined the immediate rematch. His big mouth attention whore can shut up now and wait in line.
Bullshhhhhh, he wasn't agressive enough at persuing a Williams rematch and you know it.
Stop fooling yourself.
I would, you would, we all would. But whats fair is fair. Margs earned his title. Lost and regained another one. Paul won one, lost, then won it back. Is it fair for Quintana not to get a rematch when he gave Paul a rematch?
Quintana's decisive UD in the 1st fight is easy to overlook cuz Williams destroyed him by 1st rd KO the 2nd time. Based on that, I've said before that Paul has a right to pursue a bigger fight if he can get it before he makes a trilogy wit Carlos. But if Tony and Paul have anotha fight 1st and don't rematch immediately, Quintana is the man Williams should fight.
You talk nonsense and have nothing to back it up.
My I talk truth.
What am I lying about.
Quintana won the first fight EASY. Everyone agrees with that one.
Paul KO'ed Quintana the 2nd fight. OK....
So why wouldnt their be a big IF? Quintana whooped him, the Paul whooped Quiontana. If Quintana won a fight against Paul, why isnt there a big IF?
And dont come up with some non sense. Be real this time.
Quintana won but it was not "easy" You're exaggerating. You must have forgotten what Quintana's face looked like after the first fight. Check it out.
so dios domincano and everyone else who is scared of who now? The truth comes out and now you guys look like fools! Like i said williams is opening his mouth looking for a payday and like diaz's states "williams didnt want the immediate rematch so williams can wait in line"
Now all these margarito is ducking williams bull shit threads can stop. Reality is margarito fought him and williams ducked and declined the immediate rematch so who's scared of who again?
so williams ducked margarito AFTER beating him, right....... williams had goals of being a linear welterweight champion and fighting a guy that he already beat was a waste of time. williams still doesn't need to fight marg in my mind in order to be considered ww champ cuz he already beat the man(margarito) that beat the man(cotto).
Paul needs to give Quintana a rematch. Lets not forget that Quintana whooped his ass EASY!!! and still gave him a rematch. Oh, but Paul wins, and no rematch for Quintana? Fuck that. Margs earned his title. Let Paul beat Quintana again, then get a fight with Margs IF and that is a big IF he wins.
I'd like to see Tony and Paul rematch right away, but I got no problems wit this scenario if Tony is gonna fight Clottey.
No matter what happened or didn't happen before, fact remains that Tony is the top WW now but needs to beat Paul to maintain that status. The fight will likely happen in spring. Each guy will probably have anotha fight first, hopefully win it, then move to the rematch. Williams might have a mandatory for his belt. Tony is set to unify in a rematch wit Clottey, which ain't a gimme.
well, let me ask you this BOOF, why can't you wait and let margarito, try and take a fight with DLH first and then fight williams in 2009.... i mean is it really that hard to do why can't you guys wait for that.... im sure marge isn't gonna retire soon and im sure he will try and avenge his loss.... but how come you guys can't wait to 2009.... just a simple question.
Williams was scared to rematch??? lol.
margarito asked for the rematch right after the fight. his manager tried to enforce the mandatory and williams knew he was ruined so he ducked margarito to take an easy fight quintana. but he did realize he was so ruined by margarito that even quintana was to much for him. and where was williams saying margaritos name when he was destroying johnson and cintron???
Rogelio you're cool with me and it's nothing personal. But I think what Diaz said was BS. I tend not to believe things like this when they are said long after the fact. Diaz and Margarito never said one thing about this leading up to the Williams-Quintana fight. Margarito has never bitten his tongue about anything before. If this was true, I'm sure Margarito would have made it clear at some point before now. It seems like a convenient way of excusing him for avoiding the rematch. I don't blame Margarito 100 percent though. I blame that assshole promoter of his.
margarito is not a man to make excuses and he had no reason to bother with that coward williams when he was getting things in place for fights with cintron and cotto.
I do not know man maybe it is like Diaz says but i do not believe him, he makes thing out to be very black and white when it is likely much more of a grey area.
I am not knocking Margarito either because he took the right career path post Williams, I just do not think anyone really tried to make a rematch that hard.
yea and you could be right, there can be alot of grey, pink purple and blue areas... hell no one knows exactly what happens behind close doos. but when you go off on rants calling a fighter a coward when you don't have any idea what really happed. then this come to light it should show people that maybe they should :bryce:
We have to hear from Williams that's all. This is Margs side of the story.
hey man i dont need to hear nothing from williams. the rematch did not happen and margarito has shown proof he asked for the immediate rematch. williams did not want it. and like margarito said williams wasnt calling margarito name after he destroyed johnson and cintron. paul williams feared for his life. he knew he was lucky to survive the tornado the first time!!!!