What do Mayweather and Paul Williams have in common?

Couldn't tell you, maybe it's the fact he is black. I really haven't noticed anything to be honest.

Its like if you are a fan of say, Kelly Pavlik, its like "WELL HES WHITE" like it isnt allowed. I support American fighters to some extent, while im not a fan of paul williams, Black americans on this board getting behind other black american fighters SHOULD NOT, be a fucking problem. The same with whites. . No it shouldn't be a problem. But if that's the issue, I'd appreciate a confession of the fact here and there. If you like Williams because he's black, just say so, and that'll be the end of it.

Here is what i dont understand. Most non-americans, or individuals who identify with the country of their grandmothers/mothers/fathers etc are free to support and get behind whoever they want, usually if they arent american, its almost socially acceptable on here. Filipinos get behind their own, Mexicans behind mexicans, English get behind their own, Puerto Ricans are free to fully support their own. However, it seems like when it comes to Americans, white or black, when we get behind other americans, its like its not acceptable. Floyd is american, hes black, Paul Williams is american, Hes black. I dont see why this is such a problem. What i do think is a problem is if someone OVERRATES their own favorite and BELITTLES unjustly other fighters of a different race or nationality. Its like if you are a fan of say, Kelly Pavlik, its like "WELL HES WHITE" like it isnt allowed. I support American fighters to some extent, while im not a fan of paul williams, Black americans on this board getting behind other black american fighters SHOULD NOT, be a fucking problem. The same with whites. In all honesty, americans whites and blacks really get alot of shit on this board because everyone always trying to go out of their way to big up their ancestors country over the one they actually grew up and live in. Everyone is "mexican" everyone is "puerto rican" or "irish" or "russian" with many instances of not even speaking native languages or even having been to those countries. Americans should be allowed to support our own without hearing a host of bullshit. Mexicans get behind marquez and margarito, thats ok, but americans supporting floyd and paul williams isnt? What a line of shit. And this whole thing about a "black hope" i dont know if you have been watching sports, olympics or any of that, but blacks dont need a "hope" were satisfied in our position as far as athletics go. We dont need to "hope" for any of that shit. Outstanding post. It's not a transference thing with me. It's not like I said "Well, since Money retired, my new boy is PWill." Nothing of the sort. I just enjoy good fighters. I can appreciate a skillful fighter such as Mayweather, and at the same time, appreciate the will, grit, and output from Margarito. Or is that not allowed on this board? Too many people try to pigeon hole shit on here. You can't say So and So would beat the other guy, and not be labeled a 'fanboy". But it's a boxing forum, and race, nationality are always going to bring out the inner asshole when it comes down to people talking about their fighters. What irks me is you got the same few posters, talking about the same fighters, then claim they are true boxing fans. How come I don't see them talking about Tszyu, Pea, Hearns, Duran, Hagler, Chacon, SRL, Pryor? Or any other of the greats of the past. Why? Because they CAN'T. They know their "BOY", and thats it. Oh, and to that one guy saying has Margarito never lost to a shorter fighter, WRONG. Larry Dixon was 5'8. So put that in your pipe, and smoke it....(Had to end it on a NSB type note...):D

Here is what i dont understand. Most non-americans, or individuals who identify with the country of their grandmothers/mothers/fathers etc are free to support and get behind whoever they want, usually if they arent american, its almost socially acceptable on here. Filipinos get behind their own, Mexicans behind mexicans, English get behind their own, Puerto Ricans are free to fully support their own. However, it seems like when it comes to Americans, white or black, when we get behind other americans, its like its not acceptable. Floyd is american, hes black, Paul Williams is american, Hes black. I dont see why this is such a problem. What i do think is a problem is if someone OVERRATES their own favorite and BELITTLES unjustly other fighters of a different race or nationality. Its like if you are a fan of say, Kelly Pavlik, its like "WELL HES WHITE" like it isnt allowed. I support American fighters to some extent, while im not a fan of paul williams, Black americans on this board getting behind other black american fighters SHOULD NOT, be a fucking problem. The same with whites. In all honesty, americans whites and blacks really get alot of shit on this board because everyone always trying to go out of their way to big up their ancestors country over the one they actually grew up and live in. Everyone is "mexican" everyone is "puerto rican" or "irish" or "russian" with many instances of not even speaking native languages or even having been to those countries. Americans should be allowed to support our own without hearing a host of bullshit. Mexicans get behind marquez and margarito, thats ok, but americans supporting floyd and paul williams isnt? What a line of shit. And this whole thing about a "black hope" i dont know if you have been watching sports, olympics or any of that, but blacks dont need a "hope" were satisfied in our position as far as athletics go. We dont need to "hope" for any of that shit.

we all know is about skin color hes what they like to call the "next black hope" what i dont get is why they havent switched to berto maybe they know hes a fraud To be honest that was the 1st thing that occured to me aswell

these threads are really reaching the level of allout baiting and stupidity, and its starting to attain new heights, these threads really clutter the board with fanboy arguments which lead to racially charged responses aimed at contraversy and allout bullshit.

they're both technically good boxers? Williams? Technical? This guy does everything the trainers told us not to do, when we were 8. You only need to watch him for one second to see he was a late starter. A physical freak and a talent? Yes. Technically good? Not a bit.

they're both technically good boxers?

A lot of Floyd fans have in the past spoke of how they like him because he is so skillful, and prefer his 'boxing clinic' performances over those of someone like Margarito, who they criticise for his lack of skill. These people prefer Jones to Calzaghe, because Jones is more skillful etc. A lot of these same Floyd fans seem to dislike Calzaghe, who throws lots of punches, isn't all that accurate etc. and they supported Hopkins against him. They also seem to think Hopkins deserved to win because (they claim) his punches were harder and cleaner (but anyone who scored AM-PW with a similiar criteria in mind is considered to be an idiot by them). So therefore, you would expect these people to support Quintana against Williams, because Quintana is a very skillful boxer, and proved in the first Williams fight that his technique is about 10x better. Williams throws -and misses- a lot of punches. But instead certain Floyd fans support Hopkins and Jones against Calzaghe, and Williams against Quintana. Looking at their styles, you wouldn't expect this to be the case. There must be some other explanation. You are a brilliant man, Clegg.

If everyone insists, I suppose race does have something to do with it. Still I'd expect in that case someone to admit "I like him because he's black, and there are no other blacks to support right now." anti-Hispanism may also have something to do with it.

Why is it that Mayweather's fans have become fans of Williams? They don't have similar styles. They don't have similar skills. They don't have similar backgrounds. I just can't figure out why suddenly the Floydboys are hyping Williams. Can anyone think of a reason? I'm a mayweather fan and I'm not that big of a p-will fan. I do think he is the best welterweight but thats more to do with his height and reach than his skill. I think he gets beat at mw and smw but will go undefeated from now on if he remains a ww..

The one thing I can't stand is a liar. JAB is a liar, C'monman'g is a liar, Viva, Pelon, and now you lol. You guys twist things to favor your argument. I'm an old school fan. I don't lie like some little kid lol. You are thee worst lol... You even had the gall to come back and justify your lie too lol. I have pissed you off in the past so I guess you owe it to me lol. Go back in that thread and point out where I lied or point out where I lied in this one.. :owned:

This is not proof of anything. You just lied to me if anything lol. I claimed???? Titles don't mean anything, but the Ring rankings do in your mind huh...lol. We weren't even arguing about rankings lol. My God lol. You are special..........................ed lol. Why would you try to use your lie as some type of truth in catching me in a lie??? I gave my opinion, you posted Ring rankings lol. Good Lord lol........Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahha....................lol......I can't believe you would stoop so low lol...I can't even stop laughing lol................ uh yes we where arguing about rankings.. u said Williams was one and Margarito was two and I showed you what's up you ran and retreated.. I haven't lied about anything, the truth is there! :lol1: Face it you got caught in your own bullshit and yes, I go by the ring rankings.. lots of people do now a days since there is soo many belts. You do too... that's why everytime you talked about Floyd and his P4P or anyone else you referred to those vary same rankings.. you got :owned: and now you just double :owned: shits too funny! you ran like a bitch now you trying to cover it up? c'mon booth!

Williams is the next heir to the Mayweather throne. He will be the new creme de la creme, pizzeria uno, major baller of the WW division and the Boxing.

but you know I'm right as always.. just like that one time you tried to claim Williams was number one and I posted The Ring rankings then you disappeared from the thread for good.. lolz. Sorry, wrong guy lol. :lol1: nope, here is proof: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202780&page=2 :owned:

Oh, I didn't even think of it that way lol. I'm glad you opened my eyes. So I should root for who now...Margs? I should just forget about Berto and Williams. Sin, did you ever get your G.E.D/diploma? this is hilarious coming from you.. especially since you are supposed to be a school teacher/astronaut/professional wrestler/ former boxing world champion/chuck lidell's brother/hue heffner/etc. nice try though.. but you know I'm right as always.. just like that one time you tried to claim Williams was number one and I posted The Ring rankings then you disappeared from the thread for good.. lolz. Anyway, why am I talking to some loser who likes fat hags?? dunnoo but I better get outta here before I'm seen around you :theyareon

Black hope??? Some of you posters are thee worst. You need to go back to school. Being that you are a Cotto fan, we understand your pain. It's truth.. if it isn't then why not root for any of the other welterweights that are at the top right now?? o that's right.. because they are not black.

http://jokes.m3rlin.org/files/2007/07/000946-fat-overweight-black-woman-with-huge-red-hair-eating-kfc-chicken.jpg meant to quote this one

Watch out he's going to put you on ignore Damn her knee looks like its devouring itself

im a Floyd fan and I havent switched.....Paul Williams is cool but I dont necessarily think hes the truth or anything, his size advantage and punch output helps him A LOT