Looking back at Hatton's preformances after the Tszyu win....

Does he really have a chance against Pacquiao? He KO'd Maussau but then SEVERELY struggled with Collazo who many people feel actually BEAT Hatton, then struggled again with Urango, KO'd a flagrantly past his prime Castillo (which I guess is an alright win), then gets embarrassed by Mayweather, then almost gets TAKEN OUT by a inactive fighter who was past his prime and semi retired when he agreed to the fight in Lazcano. Lazcano almost took him out in the same manner that Mayweather did: with a left hook due to Hatton's lack of defensive awareness when pressuring forward. Now these are visible facts. I've always thought that Hatton was given this aura of greatness because of the Tszyu win and his struggles AFTER that fight were all of a sudden ignored because Mayweather chose him as an opponent. We even have Floyd fans saying shit like "EVERYBOYDY said Hatton was going to rough Floyd up and knock him out but he proved da hatas wrong lol lol snicker" which is bullshit as this poll right here proves: Hatton 36% vs. Mayweather 63% http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128617&highlight=Mayweather+Hatton Anyway, Pacquiao isnt a great "boxer". But I can confidently say that the fastest fighter in that ring would be Pacquiao. If Hatton tries to go in for his WWE tactics, Pacquiao will throw that left CONSTANTLY and will hit Hatton CONSTANTLY. If a semi retired Lazcano had enough pop to make Hatton sing in the rain, I strongly believe Pacuquiao would end the fight in 6 rounds. Roach and Pac will not let Hatton get close enough to work his inside game. Pacquiao has the stamina and strength to keep a frenetic pace for 12 rounds. Does Hatton? I do hope this fight comes off because this would be a big EVENT and it would only make Pacquiao vs. Marquez III a bigger event if it were to happen.

Comments (20)

ufirst

You're right, having the same arm length as Wladimir Klitschko (26") doesn't help him in the slightest. ...not as much as having the speed & reflexes to catch the charging Hatton with lead rights all night and the check hooks; as well as having the smarts to keep Hatton from gaining his wrestling advantage by placing his forearm in his throat when he attempted it... His reach would have been more of an advantage if he used a long jab to keep Hatton at bay but Floyd didn't fight that way, did he? Besides the smart jab to the body, he didn't use it that much at all, instead he countered, which meant Hatton was already in punching range for both of them, eluded shots and caught him coming in to break his rhythm, frustrate, tire him & knock him out...:boxing:

17y ago

The_Gambler1981

Since both fighters are non American, wonder if Pacquiao would even entertain the thought of having the fight @ Wimbeldon or whatever venue they have in Brittanica. If they want to do that they should just fight in Dubai and get paid an insane ammount of cash.

17y ago

2501_v20

Since both fighters are non American, wonder if Pacquiao would even entertain the thought of having the fight @ Wimbeldon or whatever venue they have in Brittanica.

17y ago

TheManchine

the way some people talk about Hatton on this forum u would think he had raped their sister or something im not a massive fan but i feel sorry for him because of the sheer amount of people that hate him you got banned cracka, must have been for posting a thread that didnt belong in NSB or maybe the raping part of this post, either way we wont be seeing you :spankme:

17y ago

Jim_Jeffries

I agree with you on that (Hatton not a welterweight, truly) but it's Floyd's skill level, not his size that allows him to be competitive against bigger guys as it is with all/most fighters of a certain Class and that's the reason Hatton has a good chance of beating Pac (skill level is pretty close). You're right, having the same arm length as Wladimir Klitschko (26") doesn't help him in the slightest.

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

hatton was fighting at 140 when Floyd was a legitimate 130er making weight quite easily. Hatton has 43 fights at 140+, and Floyd has, er, 8 or so (without checking). Hatton was 154ish on fight night. Floyd was 148. Weight is what makes you a certain class, not necessarily your ability to fight bigger guys. That is my opinion. Ruiz could probably beat Mormeck, but not Roy Jones. Yet, Mormeck is more of a heavyweight than Roy Jones. Nahmean? I definitely get where you're coming from and points taken.

17y ago

ufirst

Still, if you are fighting for a junior welterweight championship, it should be fought at 140 pounds. That's how I look at it. To me if you fight in the division for a title, thats the division you're in. Mayweather showed that he could be competitive with welterweights and beat them. He was a welterweight. I've never been convinced that Hatton was a true welterweight. I agree with you on that (Hatton not a welterweight, truly) but it's Floyd's skill level, not his size that allows him to be competitive against bigger guys as it is with all/most fighters of a certain Class and that's the reason Hatton has a good chance of beating Pac (skill level is pretty close).

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

To me if Floyd is not bigger then Hatton the fight being at welter is meaningless. They could have fought at any wieght and Floyd would have demolished Hatton. Against bigger welters i would allow the Hatton sucks at welter excuse because his style would not work on bigger fighters, now Floyd had more success against bigger fighters but that does not really make him the bigger guy. To me they are the same size and just happeaned to fight at welter. I agree, they were functionally the same size. Here you have a good welterweight fighter against a guy moving up to a weight where he hadn't been able to get work done. It's just curious to me because this could have been an even bigger event at 140 where Hatton was something significant as opposed to 147 where he was a non-entity.

17y ago

them_apples

the reason Uk fighters get so much hate is because they fight bums their entire Career and their fans actually think they could rough up the good opposition. Hatton doesn't deserve the hate, he's a nice guy and he at least stepped up and took on the best, instead of fighting nobodies and telling himself every 5 minutes that he has done enough to be considered great.

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

the way some people talk about Hatton on this forum u would think he had raped their sister or something im not a massive fan but i feel sorry for him because of the sheer amount of people that hate him I only read a few posters here, with all the new people coming in and out it's hard to follow anyone anymore. What's good about haters of any fighters here is that they tip you off in the first sentence what their agenda is. The ones that bother me are the subliminal haters. Those are the sneaky, sneaky types.

17y ago

The_Gambler1981

Oh yeah, I don't think there was a size disparity. Some fighters just aren't the same when they move up, even if it's only a few pounds. Like Paulie Ayala, who was a pretty decent 122-pounder but when he moved up to 126 to fight other former junior-featherweights like Barrera and Morales he got the living crap beat out of him. Ricky Hatton wasn't the same fighter at 147 that he was at 140, and the record speaks for itself really. To me if Floyd is not bigger then Hatton, so the fight being at welter is meaningless. They could have fought at any wieght and Floyd would have demolished Hatton. Against bigger welters i would allow the Hatton sucks at welter excuse because his style would not work on bigger fighters, now Floyd had more success against bigger fighters but that does not really make him the bigger guy. To me they are the same size and just happeaned to fight at welter.

17y ago

Dynamite_Kid

Oh yeah, I don't think there was a size disparity. Some fighters just aren't the same when they move up, even if it's only a few pounds. Like Paulie Ayala, who was a pretty decent 122-pounder but when he moved up to 126 to fight other former junior-featherweights like Barrera and Morales he got the living crap beat out of him. Ricky Hatton wasn't the same fighter at 147 that he was at 140, and the record speaks for itself really. the way some people talk about Hatton on this forum u would think he had raped their sister or something im not a massive fan but i feel sorry for him because of the sheer amount of people that hate him

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

would like to point out that Mayweather weighed only 150 for that ODLH fight. He, didn't even make the limit. If you come in on fight night for a welterweight fight at 147, you're a junior welter. sorry. Still, if you are fighting for a junior welterweight championship, it should be fought at 140 pounds. That's how I look at it. To me if you fight in the division for a title, thats the division you're in. Mayweather showed that he could be competitive with welterweights and beat them. He was a welterweight. I've never been convinced that Hatton was a true welterweight.

17y ago

Jim_Jeffries

In all fairness mate the weight on the night says what the fight was at , Hatton was the same as he was weight wise againt Castillo and Floyd weighed the same as Hatton with no more than a pd between them , Floyd had no advantages in size here . Nope just 6" in each arm and about 2" in height, combined with a speed advantage and not being anywhere near as weight drained as Hatton, who came down from about 180. Add in the obvious skill advantage, much, much better defense, and Floyd should've been at least a 10 to 1 favorite.

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

In all fairness mate the weight on the night says what the fight was at , Hatton was the same as he was weight wise againt Castillo and Floyd weighed the same as Hatton with no more than a pd between them , Floyd had no advantages in size here . Oh yeah, I don't think there was a size disparity. Some fighters just aren't the same when they move up, even if it's only a few pounds. Like Paulie Ayala, who was a pretty decent 122-pounder but when he moved up to 126 to fight other former junior-featherweights like Barrera and Morales he got the living crap beat out of him. Ricky Hatton wasn't the same fighter at 147 that he was at 140, and the record speaks for itself really.

17y ago

Addition

I'm sure the Brits want to forget it now because their very best was humiliated once again. The fact is this was one of the most anticipated fights in all of boxing for years. It was only delayed because of Hatton's shameless ducking. He knew this was a fight he just would not win, so he milked the Brits for every pound he could by fighting a string of bums until he finally decided to cash out with the Mayweather fight... This is a wind up surely? That or you seriously lack a brain.

17y ago

ufirst

I don't look at it like that all really, since there are weight classes and they serve a purpose. With that logic, Taylor-Pavlik II was the middleweight championship without having to make weight. Different kind of fight. The same with Corrales-Castillo II, making weight was not an issue to Castillo, atleast. Floyd had proven to be more of a welterweight by beating Zab Judah, who was a former welterweight champion, Carlos Baldomir who was the reigning champion at the time, and then even going up in weight to 154 to beat ODLH. Hatton's only welterweight fight of consequence was with Luis Collazo. In that fight, this happened: http://i38.tinypic.com/206otol.gif (credit to mspiegelo) To say Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton is inaccurate. If Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton, is Hatton also more of a junior middleweight than Mayweather? would like to point out that Mayweather weighed only 150 for that ODLH fight. He, didn't even make the limit. If you come in on fight night for a welterweight fight at 147, you're a junior welter. sorry.

17y ago

ufirst

Ricky can win back on topic, I'd say Hatton has more than a chance... Ricky's mostly struggled with guys sho walk around at the same weight he does, 160 (Collazo) or who can out-skill him (Mayweather). he's naturally heavier than Pac (Ricky will prolly come in around 148 on fight night), just as hard a puncher (it remains to be seen if Pac will carry his speed & power up to 140+), is really aggressive and works the body as well as roughs up his man quite a bit. Pac is a tough s.o.b., is quick and can punch but I'm really interested in seeing how he responds to the bigger guy's wrestling & mauling over the course of the fight. Should be a good one; that is if Paulie doesn't outslick Ricky in their bout...

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

So many things came together... personality clash Floyd's trash talk at the first presser 24/7 white/black USA/UK clash of fight styles etc... Floyd was very lucky to have Hatton. It's hard to dispute that it made for a pretty interesting event.

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

In all honesty, it was the 140 championship where neither guy had to bother making weight. That's all it was. Hatton isn't a WW...and Floyd is even less so. I don't look at it like that all really, since there are weight classes and they serve a purpose. With that logic, Taylor-Pavlik II was the middleweight championship without having to make weight. Different kind of fight. The same with Corrales-Castillo II, making weight was not an issue to Castillo, atleast. Floyd had proven to be more of a welterweight by beating Zab Judah, who was a former welterweight champion, Carlos Baldomir who was the reigning champion at the time, and then even going up in weight to 154 to beat ODLH. Hatton's only welterweight fight of consequence was with Luis Collazo. In that fight, this happened: http://i38.tinypic.com/206otol.gif (credit to mspiegelo) To say Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton is inaccurate. If Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton, is Hatton also more of a junior middleweight than Mayweather?

17y ago