You would think after what boxing was doing for Cotto, that Mayweather would jump at the chance to steal the thunder of the other big welters and take on Antonio. This fight is worth risking an 0 over imo, because the added legacy it brings can immortalize a fighter. And we all know exactly what we're going to get, so I'm not in the least bit bored by the notion.
Can Floyd stay busy going backwards for 12 rounds and avoid Margarito's onslaught?
Can Antonio slow Mayweather down enough to mount his attack for the win?
What do yall think?
No doubt. PBF would likely beat him but he still won't do it. I ain't surprised tho cuz he didn't wanna fight Tony before he whomped Cotto. No way he does now.
ONE FOR THE MONEY (the old Krisstorerson song) would properly describe
the thoughts of either Floyd or Oscar fan base in say the 7th round if they ever had guts enough to stand against the Tornedo.
Ive seen you standing there stunned in the spotlight
Ive seen the sweat streak the pain on your face
Cause youre caught like a clown in a circle of strangers
Who do you screw to get out of this place
No, not at all. Margarito looked very impressive in his victory against Cotto and did exactly what he had to do to win. He would put an unbelievable amount of pressure on Floyd Mayweather for 12 full rounds and that's not something Mayweather likes.
Both Mayweather and Oscar will never fight Margarito. It's a shame.
No doubt. PBF would likely beat him but he still won't do it. I ain't surprised tho cuz he didn't wanna fight Tony before he whomped Cotto. No way he does now.
For this fight to have appeal to Floyd, Margarito has to dominate so that he's perceived as unbeatable, so that a victory by any means would be the stuff of legacy. I agree the timing isn't right. And I'm not convinced that Floyd has the hunger to risk the 0 in any event though.
I guess the biggest concern I'd have is, if all those blows that Cotto landed couldn't do it, how does Floyd keep him, off him?
How about Tony taking say 5mil & letting Floyd or Oscar for that matter take 20mi. Would the 20mil lure either of these two "commercial fighters" into settling this issue. Would Tony settle for 5mil just to prove the point. I think the promoter could guarantee the 25 million purse between the fighters.
The 2nd reason is that I think Floyd is honestly banking on Margarito. He saw what Clottey & Cotto did to him in terms of boxing so I know he's confident but I also think that he feels that Margarito will still fight some big names and win, which would make there fight that much bigger. People clowned him for turning down the 8mil but at that time Margarito was just a name with nothing to back it up. Now he's got some huge wins and is more popular so Floyd could make way more then that 8 if they fight. If he holds out longer and Margarito beats a Williams or Cotto in a rematch then the fight is super huge. Floyd is smart about that stuff.
For this fight to have appeal to Floyd, Margarito has to dominate so that he's perceived as unbeatable, so that a victory by any means would be the stuff of legacy. I agree the timing isn't right. And I'm not convinced that Floyd has the hunger to risk the 0 in any event though.
I guess the biggest concern I'd have is, if all those blows that Cotto landed couldn't do it, how does Floyd keep him, off him?
I dont think Floyd has done that yet for 2 reasons.
1 is that he hasnt been retired long enough. He's still doing alright for now but quickly his name is diminishing and I think he's also realizing that if your not the Champ then people still dont show you the love in the real world that they do when you are. People gave him alot of oppurtunites to do big things because of boxing and without it I think those will diminish which will make him want to get back in the limelight. He will also definatly start getting the itch again pretty soon as its hard to just stop cold turkey like that espically when you know that you can still do some great things.
The 2nd reason is that I think Floyd is honestly banking on Margarito. He saw what Clottey & Cotto did to him in terms of boxing so I know he's confident but I also think that he feels that Margarito will still fight some big names and win, which would make there fight that much bigger. People clowned him for turning down the 8mil but at that time Margarito was just a name with nothing to back it up. Now he's got some huge wins and is more popular so Floyd could make way more then that 8 if they fight. If he holds out longer and Margarito beats a Williams or Cotto in a rematch then the fight is super huge. Floyd is smart about that stuff.
I pretty much echo the same reasoning. It's all about the economics of a fight to him.
Stop talking about Floyd already he made like 15-20 mil against DLH and wants 100 mil to face Tony.
I wouldn't doubt that for a minute. :boxing:
I ran a poll, and the general consensus was that a Margarito win would do very little to enhance FMJ's legacy.
not to question the integrity of the poll, but were those who voted that it would do little to enhance FMJ's legacy mostly Coalition members and die hard, seemingly unobjective, Floyd fans?
The only things i can see Floyd gaining from fighting Margarito is the fact that he is the most feared man in the sport so he can say he kicked the ass of the most feared man in boxing. The other is that he would think it means he can beat Cotto because Margarito beat Cotto. He will use the old triangle theory of "well Margarito beat Cotto so therefore if i beat Margarito then i'm better than Cotto aswel". Obviously the triangle theories don't work but once Mayweather has said it all the Mayweather fans will think it is true because he said it and therefore he is the best, or something like that.
Another way of saying that Margarito is the most feared fighter in the sport is, "Margarito has the distinction of promising the most risk while offering the least reward."
If there was one fighter in the world I wouldn't want to fight, it honestly would be Antonio Margarito. He doesn't get hurt, and he doesn't get tired. Am I that confident in both my defense and conditioning that I can potshot him all night to a decision victory? I know boxers are an arrogant bunch, but... I don't know how many of them would want to take the Pepsi Challenge on that one.
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I meant it's worth Floyd losing not Margarito winning. Before Cotto, if Mayweather lost to Margarito it would've meant everything to the skeptics who questioned his supremacy. Now, even if Floyd lost, it wouldn't be the end of the world in status because Marg looks like a world beater.
I think he can beat Margarito, but he will be dancing all 12. Margarito is still dangerous, I wonder if Floyd wants to risk shoulder rolling on those ropes or even get close to them.
floyd would have fought cotto, but i dont think he will ever fought margarito..not cuz of fear..i think he will say his name isnt big enough and by the time margaritos name gets big enough, he will lose and that spoils it.
I dont think Floyd has done that yet for 2 reasons.
1 is that he hasnt been retired long enough. He's still doing alright for now but quickly his name is diminishing and I think he's also realizing that if your not the Champ then people still dont show you the love in the real world that they do when you are. People gave him alot of oppurtunites to do big things because of boxing and without it I think those will diminish which will make him want to get back in the limelight. He will also definatly start getting the itch again pretty soon as its hard to just stop cold turkey like that espically when you know that you can still do some great things.
The 2nd reason is that I think Floyd is honestly banking on Margarito. He saw what Clottey & Cotto did to him in terms of boxing so I know he's confident but I also think that he feels that Margarito will still fight some big names and win, which would make there fight that much bigger. People clowned him for turning down the 8mil but at that time Margarito was just a name with nothing to back it up. Now he's got some huge wins and is more popular so Floyd could make way more then that 8 if they fight. If he holds out longer and Margarito beats a Williams or Cotto in a rematch then the fight is super huge. Floyd is smart about that stuff.
he already learned after the Baldomir fight that engaging in bouts where he's going to be backpeddling for most of the fight isn't going to help him achieve what he wants. It would be an un attractive win for him. It would do more damage than good.
I'd rather have him fight Pavlik. That way if he won in a boring manner, I wouldn't really care because he wouldn't be favored in this fight anyway.
he already learned after the Baldomir fight that engaging in bouts where he's going to be backpeddling for most of the fight isn't going to help him achieve what he wants. It would be an un attractive win for him. It would do more damage than good.