STFU With That "Scared" Bullshit Please

Fighters at the professional level do not fear anyone. It's there job to fight and beat whoever they are put in the ring with. Fighters don't go professional to test the waters they go professional because they are confident in there ability to beat the man standing opposite of them. You guys need to cut it out with Mayweather fears Cotto or Fighter A is scared of Fighter B jive. It's a bit ridiculous and makes you all look like you know nothing about the sport. I've pretty much decided to ignore anyone I catch spewing such ridiculous nonsense about men who put there entire lives into a sport that usually only leaves fighters broken and in poor health come long term. Knowingly getting into a ring with someone you know wants to tear your head off requires balls not found on an internet forum full of wannabe critics and over night know it alls. I would go out on a limb and say 80% of you don't even own a pair of gloves. Calm down with the "scared" shit guys. You all sound stupid. Credit due to ME123 and ben41103 for inspiring this. I think the only fighter anyone was ever REALLY scared of was PRIME MIKE TYSON.... for many reasons we all know of.... lol...

Nobody ever means fear in that regard when saying "Mayweather fears Cotto" though. They mean Mayweather fears Cotto as a man. Its obvious he fears losing his 0. But fearing a human is a whole other realm of shit. and yet, its still fear or scared any way you slice it and destroys the basis of this thread.

Nobody ever means fear in that regard when saying "Mayweather fears Cotto" though. They mean Mayweather fears Cotto as a man. Its obvious he fears losing his 0. But fearing a human is a whole other realm of shit.

We'd be arguing semantics in no time. What is defined as necessary? Isn't the only necessary thing for any fighter to do is fight, regardless of opposition? I assume this has something to do with PBF, as comments about scared/fear etc always bring that out of people. Mayweather chose to fight Hatton, which the fans were clammering for. Mayweather stepped up in weight to fight a larger, stronger and HOF'er in ODLH. This goes back to a comment I make every so often.... there's always somebody to fight. No matter what PBF chose to do he'd be criticized for it. Heavy lies the crown. My only real question to respond with is, why are you asking this question in the first place? My original comment and all subsequent ones have been valid that there is a big difference between actual fear and taking an easier route.... is that really disagreeable? I know you're not a moron. So that means you agree with me, right? With your refusal to answer a simple question, I take you don't want to be hypocritical is all. Regarding boxing and sports in general, its necessary for the champion to defend his title against any worthy challenger in order to be called champion. People take the avoidance of unnecessary risk as fear.... Why would a champion need to avoid someone? Isn't the whole premise of being called a champion rising up to the challenge? Oh wait, its another question, scratch that, you're afraid to answer them.

Here's Ishe Smith's views on fear in boxing. "Fear is good and it definitely plays a part in a boxer's life. For the most part you get used to getting hit. You don't like to get hit but you have to have a little fear to help deal with this. "To me, fear and being scared are two different things. You might be scared of the neighborhood bully, but that fear is something different, you can have the fear of losing and it can motivate." As mentioned earlier, fear can be channeled into a positive outcome, which will help to build courage, and consequently a greater capacity to deal with it the next time around. According to Ishe, fear is a positive experience that all boxers need to excel in their sport. "You shouldn't confuse fear with being scared, and personally speaking, I do not have much fear about getting in the ring. There are a lot of scared boxers out there. "I think that the nervousness that comes over me, like that butterfly feeling in your stomach, helps, because it helps you to remember that you are only human, and you need to do the best you can do, and execute what you learned in training.

“I'm scared every time I go into the ring, but it's how you handle it. What you have to do is plant your feet, bite down on your mouthpiece and say, 'Let's go.'” - Mike Tyson “Fear is your best friend or your worst enemy. It's like fire. If you can control it, it can cook for you; it can heat your house. If you can't control it, it will burn everything around you and destroy you. If you can control your fear, it makes you more alert, like a deer coming across the lawn.” - Mike Tyson

There's different levels of fear. All fighters risk their lives doin what they do, so none of them are full fledged cowards. But do they sometimes get scared? I'm sure.

Actually, that's bullshit. Most fighters do have fear especially before a fight. It is just a natural instinct which you cannot help having, you can only control it so it doesn't overwhelm you and feel the confidence that comes with the training and experience to overcome it and use the nervousness to your advantage. If you have ever had to wait in a locker-room for a fight, you would know that fear plays a big part part of the wait. Learning how to use that fear and not let it become a disadvantage is what makes a great fighter though. I'm sure that sometimes a fighter is not scared, but, I'm certain that all fighters have at some point been scared. They just know how to deal with it. Good post Benny!

Why are you using the word necessary? I don't know why anyone argues with you. You say the same old crap every damn time I see you post. Nothing changes. Floyd didn't fight who you wanted him to fight. You can cry and call him a coward until you die. Can't you even talk about any other boxer. There are over 5000 boxers, a top 10 pfp, contenders....lol. All you do is, Floyd is scared of prime welters, hence his retirement.....All you do is, Floyd is scared of prime welters, hence his retirement...All you do is, Floyd is scared of prime welters, hence his retirement...All you do is, Floyd is scared of prime welters, hence his retirement...All you do is, Floyd is scared of prime welters, hence his retirement...lol Since when in the history of sports has anyone retired because they were "scared?" That has to be the stupidest thing I've seen on these boards. But what else can you expect from Lex Luther.

Being scared of the possibility of injury isn't the same as fearing another man.

Fighters at the professional level do not fear anyone. It's there job to fight and beat whoever they are put in the ring with. Fighters don't go professional to test the waters they go professional because they are confident in there ability to beat the man standing opposite of them. You guys need to cut it out with Mayweather fears Cotto or Fighter A is scared of Fighter B jive. It's a bit ridiculous and makes you all look like you know nothing about the sport. I've pretty much decided to ignore anyone I catch spewing such ridiculous nonsense about men who put there entire lives into a sport that usually only leaves fighters broken and in poor health come long term. Knowingly getting into a ring with someone you know wants to tear your head off requires balls not found on an internet forum full of wannabe critics and over night know it alls. I would go out on a limb and say 80% of you don't even own a pair of gloves. Calm down with the "scared" shit guys. You all sound stupid. Credit due to ME123 and ben41103 for inspiring this. Actually, that's bullshit. Most fighters do have fear especially before a fight. It is just a natural instinct which you cannot help having, you can only control it so it doesn't overwhelm you and feel the confidence that comes with the training and experience to overcome it and use the nervousness to your advantage. If you have ever had to wait in a locker-room for a fight, you would know that fear plays a big part part of the wait. Learning how to use that fear and not let it become a disadvantage is what makes a great fighter though. I'm sure that sometimes a fighter is not scared, but, I'm certain that all fighters have at some point been scared. They just know how to deal with it.

that sounds like franklin delano roosevelt. I'm lost? :o:confused:

I simply asked a question based on this comment. I never said or implied you said as much. I merely challenged your thought. Now, lets try again. When has a champion defending his belt been an unnecessary risk against the top challengers in the division? We'd be arguing semantics in no time. What is defined as necessary? Isn't the only necessary thing for any fighter to do is fight, regardless of opposition? I assume this has something to do with PBF, as comments about scared/fear etc always bring that out of people. Mayweather chose to fight Hatton, which the fans were clammering for. Mayweather stepped up in weight to fight a larger, stronger and HOF'er in ODLH. This goes back to a comment I make every so often.... there's always somebody to fight. No matter what PBF chose to do he'd be criticized for it. Heavy lies the crown. My only real question to respond with is, why are you asking this question in the first place? My original comment and all subsequent ones have been valid that there is a big difference between actual fear and taking an easier route.... is that really disagreeable? I know you're not a moron. So that means you agree with me, right?

Apparently you forgot how this started: I never said that, thus your question and subsequent argument around it are based upon a fallacy. I'm looking out for your best interest, as you don't want to make some stupid or long winded post that I have no interest in because you completely misunderstand a post I made. People take the avoidance of unnecessary risk as fear.... I simply asked a question based on this comment. I never said or implied you said as much. I merely challenged your thought. Now, lets try again. When has a champion defending his belt been an unnecessary risk against the top challengers in the division?

Have you ever talked to a boxer? Teddy Atlas can't tell you whether a fighters feels fear or not. Talk to a boxer. If they don't explain it to you the way I did, I'll give you all the money in my NSB bank. Roberto Duran said he never feared any fighter in his life. Ali said he never feared any fighter in his life. I appreciate the offer but I'm not looking to become e-rich. Teddy was a fighter, and has dealt with and talk to more professional fighters than you and I will ever come in contact with. I value his opinion more than a random internet boxing poster who has stated in the past that boxers know no fear. If Duran and Ali say they never feared anyone that's great for them, too bad they don't represent all boxers. Calzaghe's gone on record stating that he needs that fear in order to perform better, he's a prime example of someone who has fear but can control it.

answer the question please. It was a simple question with a simple answer. If you choose not to answer, then we can dead this right now and I'll know where you stand. Apparently you forgot how this started: You're saying a champion defending his belt against his top challengers is unnecessary? I never said that, thus your question and subsequent argument around it are based upon a fallacy. I'm looking out for your best interest, as you don't want to make some stupid or long winded post that I have no interest in because you completely misunderstand a post I made.

All fighters feel fear. It isn't the scared fear that arm chair fans think. They fear losing, not how they lose. They know they can lose, and lose their life going in. The elite cherish this moment. They have the least fear. Yes, losing is a fear that most boxers probably feel the most, along with losing their life. I'm not ready to agree that the elite have the least fear, they have just as many things to fear than any other boxer. I'm sure they fear dying, getting injured, ko'd, losing, etc. I'm going to go with Teddy Atlas and say the have more control over fear.

That question proves nothing. There's always somebody for a fighter to fight. Would it be rewarding to a fan to see him fight the best fights? Yes. However, do I think of him as a coward or afraid for taking 'easier' fights? No. There's a huge gap between hoping to avoid a possible loss and genuine fear. If you think they're synonymous then there's no hope for you. answer the question please. It was a simple question with a simple answer. If you choose not to answer, then we can dead this right now and I'll know where you stand.

Fighters at the professional level do not fear anyone. It's there job to fight and beat whoever they are put in the ring with. Fighters don't go professional to test the waters they go professional because they are confident in there ability to beat the man standing opposite of them. You guys need to cut it out with Mayweather fears Cotto or Fighter A is scared of Fighter B jive. It's a bit ridiculous and makes you all look like you know nothing about the sport. I've pretty much decided to ignore anyone I catch spewing such ridiculous nonsense about men who put there entire lives into a sport that usually only leaves fighters broken and in poor health come long term. Knowingly getting into a ring with someone you know wants to tear your head off requires balls not found on an internet forum full of wannabe critics and over night know it alls. I would go out on a limb and say 80% of you don't even own a pair of gloves. Calm down with the "scared" shit guys. You all sound stupid. Credit due to ME123 and ben41103 for inspiring this. I do agree with some of your points. Unless you are that fighter, how can you in fact say that one person is scared of another. What I disagree with is fighters at a professional level do not fear anyone. I've quoted Calzaghe's view on fear a few times. In Teddy Atlas' book he talks a lot about fear and how boxers need to control it and use it to their advantage. I just started reading In The Corner: Great Boxing Trainers Talk About Their Art, and it also gives you some insight as to how certain fighters are in the ring. I'm waiting to receive my copy of Facing Ali: 15 Fighters / 15 Stories, I'll let you know if there are any reference to any of his opponents fearing him.

Ignorant. Styles make fights. Stewart was slow, and was no match for the faster tyson. You are one ignorant mofo lol. You can't wait for a thread with Floyd's name attached you can go into your special ed repetitive "Floyd is scared of prime welters, hence his retirement" lol. Ignorant. He climbs weight classes, and all of a sudden is scared of welters. You are the true coward. You defend this lie like all liars defend against the truth lol. It doesn't make a difference what kind of style he had, if he feared Tyson, it's still fear isn't it?