Now that we have seen the completed careers of both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather at 130, who was better and who would have won this match? There has been a lot of comparing these two.So how do they match up here when you compare them at 130 in terms of career and head to head in the ring? who was more dominant?
I keep hearing what a KO monster Floyd was at 130/135, but after 24 rounds with a guy that had already been stopped 4 times by mexican cab drivers (Castillo), Floyd didn't knock him down once and didn't seem to have him hurt once. I can see him outpointing Pacquiao, but all of these guaranteed KO claims are a little optimistic I think.
What do cuts have to do with chin?
Good job discrediting your opinion (as if you needed to)
Castillo had a monster chin. He was never knocked down in his entire career. He was stopped on his feet after 10 rounds of trading with Corrales, and went down on his knees against Hatton.
I keep hearing what a KO monster Floyd was at 130/135, but after 24 rounds with a guy that had already been stopped 4 times by mexican cab drivers (Castillo), Floyd didn't knock him down once and didn't seem to have him hurt once. I can see him outpointing Pacquiao, but all of these guaranteed KO claims are a little optimistic I think.
Well I never would have called him a KO monster...but he hit fairly hard for his style...and his speed and accuracy created decent pop for him at 130...shots that Manny hasn't ever been hit with
I keep hearing what a KO monster Floyd was at 130/135, but after 24 rounds with a guy that had already been stopped 4 times by mexican cab drivers (Castillo), Floyd didn't knock him down once and didn't seem to have him hurt once. I can see him outpointing Pacquiao, but all of these guaranteed KO claims are a little optimistic I think.
Keep in mind that Morales and Barrera...they were brawlers with some boxing skills...good Boxing skills for the "typical" Mexican fighter...they weren't the second coming of Sweet Pea or Robinson in terms of skills...they still got hit plenty...
Marquez was a more refined boxer than them...and Manny barely escaped there
as pointed out above...
@130...Floyd = bigger, faster, physically stronger, better inside fighter, greater defense, smarter boxer, good chin, great condition, greater mover, heart, instinct, prime
Talent, skills and toughness...I don't see how Floyd could lose...he hasn't lost, so it is hard to see him ever losing...Manny would eat leather all night until the end
It was a competitive match set at a good pace. Mayweather-De La Hoya was better then Pacquiao-Barrera 2. In this day and age where everyone expects a mindless brawl of course you are gonna think it's boring.
However, it wasn't that bad of a fight. Would I want to see a rematch? Hell no. But the overall fight wasn't that bad.
lol. Pac vs Barrera? haha. How you even gonna compare Pacquiao and Barrera to DLH and Mayweather?
That's like comparing Jordan and Kobe to Chris Paul and Ray Allen. haha.
DLH VS Mayweather was supposedly bring back boxing to the map. BUt it actually hurt boxing more because of their horrible performance.
like i said i had friends, relatives and co-workers that actually ordered the fight that never ordered ppv before because of all the hype.
After the fight every single one of them said that was their first and last ever ordering a boxing on ppv.
Does that tell you anything?
or you just don't get the concept of what i'm saying.
pbf and dlh wasn't a even that bad of a fight????????? WOW!!. i had relatives, friends, and co-workers that never ordered ppv fights that actually ordered.
and told me that it was their first and last ever buying a boxing match.
what does that tell you????
are you ignorant or just a mexican. haha.
It was a competitive match set at a good pace. Mayweather-De La Hoya was better then Pacquiao-Barrera 2. In this day and age where everyone expects a mindless brawl of course you are gonna think it's boring.
However, it wasn't that bad of a fight. Would I want to see a rematch? Hell no. But the overall fight wasn't that bad.
some of the lower weight classes are obsolete in the modern era imo.
a girl who is 5'6 112 would be considered skinny.
I dont know... not everyone is as big as americans and ukranians!
chavez looked like a bum there, just plodding slowly. even david diaz looked better than that. pac would have bloodied this guy before knocking him out.
Floyd was bigger, faster, hit harder, smarter, and just an all around better gfighter than Manny was at 130. Floyd by TKO in the middle rounds.
The same guys Pac beat at 130 Floyd destroys easily.
Pac was /is a natural flyweight
Man, no way is Pac a natural Flyweight! He is more of a natural SFW or even lightweight. He is as big as most lightweights, he is just thinner. While he may have started at Flyweight that was because he was sixteen and thin as a twig. That is the weight he should have been fighting at in the amateurs, like Mayweather did.
If he had started his pro career at a more average age, like around 20/21 he would have been a FW and a reasonably large one at that. He is not small for a lightweight at all and there is no way he is a natural Flyweight. He was very, very young there and even then struggled to make weight which shows you he was fighting at a very unnatural weight. The most natural weight for Pac was probably SFW, or as I said earlier, even lightweight. He always struggled to make weight at 122, 126 etc. and eventually simply couldn't.
That is like saying Hearns was a natural WW. He was more like a natural middleweight but was just able to make WW and JMW.
Only 7 posts deep and already slingin insults:footinmou
i hope we can continue in a good terms because when i used the word Mexican.
it meant that Mexicans keeps boxing alive which is a good thing for the very few boxing fans.
that is why hbo commentators and analyst uses the word MEXICAN WARRIORS because it keeps this dying but wonderful sport alive. ESP. the lower weight divisions.
And what's so funny that Television actually brainwashed Mexicans easily and get them into thinking that they are really warriors ahahahahaha.
That's what lack of education and high prides do to you.
Only 7 posts deep and already slingin insults:footinmou
lol. i didn't know that i have to reach a certain posts when i can start insulting.
i guess i must be that dumb as you might say for u to even response back.
btw. no racial intended when i used the word Mexican.
Mexicans are truly a boxing fan if you didn't felt robbed after all the hyped of the pbf vs dlh.
because 99.2% of america felt that they were robbed. and the .08% of america actually maybe still watches boxing haha.
but hey its not maywather and delahoya fault.
it's actually cotto, pacquiao, valero, berto or pavlik because their such a boring fighters. lol.
Did I actualy see you say " HIT HARDER" ? Floyd has had 25 KO's in his career and Pacquiao has 35 KO's and counting! yeah different weight classes which usualy means Floyd should have more than a little guy that started out as a featherweight. And did you say "FASTER" Pacquiao speaks for himself with his speed! BUT Mayweather is Smarter, I would have ducked Margarito, Mosley, and retired before Cotto could touch me too!
Pacquiao is very fast, but, at 130 he was not as fast as Mayweather nor did he put combinations together nearly as well. At 130 Mayweather was also considered a very hard hitter and stopped most of his opponents. Like it or not he had better stamina, faster hands and combinations as well as footwork. He did hit very hard though whether it was as hard as Pac is certainly debatable.
Of course his greatest asset, defense, is an obvious liability of Pac's as well as his outside and inside boxing skills which are both better than most outside boxers and inside pressure fighters.
I think it's pretty much a given that Mayweather would beat Pac pretty easily at 130, even as good as Pac is. If you go and watch all their respective fights at the lower weights, it would be very hard to argue Pac winning. He just does not have what it would take to beat him.
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