Can Cotto hurt Margarito? This is not to say he has to, but it sure would help.
hurt him to the chin? maybe...im undecided...
to the body? not a doubt in my mind he can hurt margarito to the body.
After the malinaggi fight..the answer is no..
So you don't think Cotto hurt Malignaggi?
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Honestly to the head it is a hypothetical. To the body I think he will. The question was can he hurt Marg IMO of course he can hurt Marg to the body. The more I think about this fight the more I lean towards Cotto. To me the technical superiority Cotto has over Marg will get him the UD. He lost against Williams and was losing against Clottey first 4 rounds before he got hurt. He beat Cintron again and Golden Johnson and looked great against them. But Cintron and Golden Johnson aren't really people to bang your chest over. It all comes down in my book to quality of opposition and the records themselves. Cotto crushes Marg's resume and he's much more technically sound as a boxer than Marg and will take advantage of Marg's slow punches. I started thinking this way, then thought Marg would beat him and now I'm back to thinking Cotto will get the UD. IMO Cotto beats Marg with speed, experience, boxing ability, body work and will take advantage of Marg's weaknesses a la Clottey. I see parallels with this fight and the Quintana fight. The majority of people had Quintana picked but Cotto blew him out based on their records and quality of opposition. Don't think it's gonna be a blow out but an impressive UD victory for Cotto.
Yeah, that is a switch. I'm staying over here though.. HaHA. As much as I can see Cotto having some good moments moving in, scoring, and getting back out I know it will become a slaughter when Margarito starts connecting. To me it doesn't matter if Cotto has the offensive ability of Ray Robinson. If he has the constitution of Miguel Cotto he's going to get roughed up and stopped. Margarito will wait for Cotto to throw his combinations, then he will take his turn. It's not unlike a Winky Wright style of exchanging. Cotto isn't built for wars, and he's only been in one which he almost lost to Torres. Cotto gets hurt in Boxing matches for christ sakes.. This is all wrong for him.
Is that more of a hypothetical for you, or do you really think he's going to hurt Margarito?
Honestly to the head it is a hypothetical. To the body I think he will. The question was can he hurt Marg IMO of course he can hurt Marg to the body. The more I think about this fight the more I lean towards Cotto. To me the technical superiority Cotto has over Marg will get him the UD. He lost against Williams and was losing against Clottey first 4 rounds before he got hurt. He beat Cintron again and Golden Johnson and looked great against them. But Cintron and Golden Johnson aren't really people to bang your chest over. It all comes down in my book to quality of opposition and the records themselves. Cotto crushes Marg's resume and he's much more technically sound as a boxer than Marg and will take advantage of Marg's slow punches. I started thinking this way, then thought Marg would beat him and now I'm back to thinking Cotto will get the UD. IMO Cotto beats Marg with speed, experience, boxing ability, body work and will take advantage of Marg's weaknesses a la Clottey. I see parallels with this fight and the Quintana fight. The majority of people had Quintana picked but Cotto blew him out based on their records and quality of opposition. Don't think it's gonna be a blow out but an impressive UD victory for Cotto.
Voted yes. To the body he can hurt Marg. To the head depends how much leather he lands on Marg over time. Knowing Marg's chin it will have to be a siginificant amount.
Is that more of a hypothetical for you, or do you really think he's going to hurt Margarito?
Voted yes. To the body he can hurt Marg. To the head depends how much leather he lands on Marg over time. Knowing Marg's chin it will have to be a siginificant amount.
I meant to put 40/60 chance.
But think about it. Tony has been in some tough fights... Its like... How long can he take it? and when will it take affect towards him? I think Cotto will answer that question, cause he has potential to break down Tony if he plays his cards right.
Yeah, that's a great point and it will be in the back of my mind until I see Margarito moving and throwing on the night. Until then I won't know what kind of shape he's in. He looked dead slow against Cintron at different points, and he's taken a fuckload of heavy shots the last few years. We won't know how slow and weathered he is until it's too late and he's in with a fresh set of legs and a guy with sharp mechanics aka Miguel Angel Cotto.
You got me on this, Undefeated.
Then I can see why you chose yes. For you it's a better than 50% chance so that makes total sense.
See, I had to go with no because to me there's about a 10% or less chance that Cotto can hurt Margarito legitmately. Cotto hasn't hurt any of his opponents recently early in a fight -except for Malignaggi with the eye socket break - and he's never been the type of puncher to just drop someone out of nowhere. Not up in class anyway.
But like I said Cotto has punches that find sick points on the body and he might be able to give Margarito his instant AIDS and bring him to a knee. If I see Margarito on a knee I'm going to go crazy. Even I will be impressed.
I meant to put 40/60 chance.
But think about it. Tony has been in some tough fights... Its like... How long can he take it? and when will it take affect towards him? I think Cotto will answer that question, cause he has potential to break down Tony if he plays his cards right.
60/40
I see Cotto countering Tony, and counters are dangerous and Cotto is capable of landing some solid counters and you know that. Cotto will hurt Tony with some counter body shots.. As for Tony long face... I don't know.. Maybe Cotto can slip a hook right on the chin to snap his neck. Who knows.
Then I can see why you chose yes. For you it's a better than 50% chance so that makes total sense.
See, I had to go with no because to me there's about a 10% or less chance that Cotto can hurt Margarito legitmately. Cotto hasn't hurt any of his opponents recently early in a fight -except for Malignaggi with the eye socket break - and he's never been the type of puncher to just drop someone out of nowhere. Not up in class anyway.
But like I said Cotto has punches that find sick points on the body and he might be able to give Margarito his instant AIDS and bring him to a knee. If I see Margarito on a knee I'm going to go crazy. Even I will be impressed.
May have been on the back of the side, but was still a legal punch. Funny thing is before I posted that I was watching a highlight reel of Cotto and when I seen that punch I remembered our argument about where it was landed, then I seen your post, I LOL'ed. I still classify that as side, especially since Quintana seen it coming and tried to turn to deflect it, only making it worse.
It doesn't matter. That shit is legal. Its on the body. Not behind the head. Look at the way Quintana turned into it, but Cotto does throw it to hit behind the back a little, but hey..... Its still legal. I'd rather get hit there rather than one of Cotto's hooks behind the head!
Quintana could have taken that shot early, but he was done.
May have been on the back of the side, but was still a legal punch. Funny thing is before I posted that I was watching a highlight reel of Cotto and when I seen that punch I remembered our argument about where it was landed, then I seen your post, I LOL'ed. I still classify that as side, especially since Quintana seen it coming and tried to turn to deflect it, only making it worse.
Tell me about likelihood if you will.
What are the chances Cotto hurts Margarito? 50-50, 90-10? What?
60/40
I see Cotto countering Tony, and counters are dangerous and Cotto is capable of landing some solid counters and you know that. Cotto will hurt Tony with some counter body shots.. As for Tony long face... I don't know.. Maybe Cotto can slip a hook right on the chin to snap his neck. Who knows.
I will grow up, but im 20.. Im still growing up.
Tony has been hurt before bro. Im pretty sure Cotto will hurt him. Tony has faced big punchers yes, but its the punches that you don't see which will hurt you. Im pretty sure Cotto will hurt Tony to the body.
Im not ahead of myself, unless you was one of the people who voted no. My post was towards them.
Calm the fuck down.
Tell me about likelihood if you will.
What are the chances Cotto hurts Margarito? 50-50, 90-10? What?
Undefeated, grow up. Cotto had trouble hurting Urkal. Margarito has been hit by some big punchers to the head and body and not been hurt. Get real.
I haven't stated my opinion yet. You're way ahead of yourself anyway..
Calm the fuck down.
I will grow up, but im 20.. Im still growing up.
Tony has been hurt before bro. Im pretty sure Cotto will hurt him. Tony has faced big punchers yes, but its the punches that you don't see which will hurt you. Im pretty sure Cotto will hurt Tony to the body.
Im not ahead of myself, unless you was one of the people who voted no. My post was towards them.
Calm the fuck down.
U need to give credit to cotto, I have to say I didn't like him much a couple years ago, but I have come around to like his style. The man flat out loves to box and never complains, This is a great warrior quality always going forward and attacking. This is why this next fight will be great, two true warriors best of the best Mexico vs PR, what more can we ask for? I don't know about you guys but I can't wait and I hope we get the fight of the year when this is all done because we are sure in for a monster fight.
p.s
Coming from Mexican decent I am rooting for Margartio, but I respect cotto for taking this fight and for being a true warrior.
p.p.s
I also vote "YES" on the poll because any fighter can get hurt.