Margarito: Better Or Worse Than Most People Think?

If Cotto beats Margarito.. Beats the guy that both Mosley and Mayweather ducked for 8 million dollars.. Man.. I would get on my knees and bow the fuck down. Real talk. I sincerely believe that Cotto is getting railroaded by Top Rank on this matchup. It's an 80's movie scenario if Cotto wins. I will stand up and clap in my livingroom if Miguel somehow beats him. If I'm at ringside I will rush into the ring and put Cotto up on my shoulders and parade him around the arena.. I know alot of people know he's up against it with this one. It would be incredible. This is it. He can be great. I will take down my sig and never say another thing against him, because I will truly be his fan. Come July 26, you'll be his fan.

Yup Tony is due big time, and this is the perfect opportunity to showcase the kind of fighter he really is to all the people who don't give him the respect he deserves. I also think he is hungrier at this point than Cotto, it showed at how quickly he signed for this fight and agreed to all of the things in the contract, he doesn't want Cotto to get away from him like last time. I'm sure he still regrets that loss to Williams and has shown me he came back after that fight as a much better fighter.MABEY HE NEEDED TO LOSE TO WILLIAMS CUZ HE WAS BEATING EVERYONE IN FRONT OF HIM AND THE WILLIAMS FIGHT JUST WOKE HIM BACK UP AND NOW WE HAVE MUCH MORE HUNGRIER TONY which makes him even more dangerous!!for what its worth i still think he was robbed in that fight williams hit all glove all night.....rookie judges!!

At first it was a hard fight to pick for me, I know Cotto has improved tons and he no longer seems like the linear fighter he was when I first heard of him. Some of his old school fans say he's always had that sort of mobility and speed, let's give them the benefit of the doubt. But after watching videos of both fighters and realizing the kind of pressure Margarito always brings into all of his fights it's going to be too much for Cotto to handle. Besides Margarito's excellent pressuring style he brings power which makes him a lethal threat. I don't care what all the Cotto fans say but Cotto does not work well under pressure and his chin is still suspect, don't give me that bullshit that "at 147 he's gotten a better chin", you either can take a punch or not, simple as that so cut the bullshit. If Margarito lands bombs on Cotto he is going down, even with Cotto's powerful body shots I see Cotto going down by Tony's shots rather than Cotto KO'ing Margarito by a left hook flush in the ribs. Both fighters are great and I give mad props to Cotto all the time, unfortunately some of his dumbass fans instead of looking at this fight with a clear mind and good perspective they just run their mouth like punks trying to put down Margarito. I agree with my homie Addison, Cotto fans are going to be for a rude awakening.IF tony wins this fight...its a victory way overdue and he will have finally gotten the recognition he deserves...but we have to wait and see like ive always said cotto is no pushover....i still like tony in this one!

Margarito is the epitome of a True Mexican Brawler, Jim Lampley put it best in his last fight against Cintron, he said; "Margarito is a brawler with skill, he knows how to box but he chooses to fight instead" that pretty much says it all. Not everyone is blessed with Mayweather-like pure boxing skills and speed, Margarito is a seasoned boxer who has been through hell with a 15 year career, a guy who knows the sport and utilizes the tools he possesses in the ring in order to win. He is not a flashy, speedy guy, he's just a tough son of a bitch who digs in deep and takes his opponents to a new level of pressure, beautiful inside work and horse-like work rate. Big power and guts, he's got a subpar defense but if you notice he blocks a lot of punches with his gloves, deflecting some of the shots he takes. He's also got one of the greatest chins in the biz and is a savvy fighter who finds ways to beat you. There are many new up n' comers and established boxers that I like and enjoy to watch them fight but Margarito always stands out from the rest, his fighting style and personality appeal to me and make me root for him every time, he's my favorite boxer hands fucking down.MINE TO BRO...THAT BEING SAID I LOVE ROOTING FOR COTTO AS WELL BUT I WANT TONY TO WIN THIS FIGHT SO BAD!!!:boxing:

he is underated IMO

this fight is great becuz you dont really know whos gonna win that is why this fight just sounds great......i wouldnt be suprised if it end early for cotto ..but then again i would becuz just as determined as tony is cotto has always showed great determenation no matter if he looked like he was losing......i dont know i want tony to win cuz he needs this fight for than any other fight in his life but i want cotto to win so he can beat the crap out of that biaaacth gayweather, and cuz miguel is great i love all his fights he is really the smartest fighter today!!hes even smarter than floyd cuz floyd can only win one way.....cotto on the other hand you never know how or what he is gonna do to win he uses diffrent skill for diffrent fighters he may go twelve with one guy but cut the fight short for another !!!he always brings his a game.......anyways that being said we have the two best welterweights in the ring with each other which is more than we can say for that ducker and dodger floyd!!!!:boxing:

I really dont know what to think of him yet. Hes a good fighter but he hasnt faced a lot of different opposition all of them were really the same, stand in front of him, dont really use the ring.I havent seen margo deal with a person that does use the ring and with faster hand speed. If your going to stand infront of him of course margo will be great at beating your ass but we will see after july if hes the real deal or just overhyped.But he is a tough SOB i will give him that. ...and to addison...what fighter does like to get hit?...isnt the point of the game is to hit and not get hit...you could say the same thing for floyd too then. But cotto does recover fast when he does get hit.

he is underated in my opinion, he is a tough fight for anyone at welterweight.

Wow, I'm quite surprised at that post Addy....? You really think he will blow out Cotto that easy? Interesting. I don't know if he will or not as I admit I haven't actually watched much of Margarito's fights and can't say either way whether I think he is overrated or underrated. Nonetheless, I do know one thing and that is that it will be a good fight. I think I might disagree with your view of how it will go though, not so in the actual winner of it but in how it will be won. I think it will go the distance, but, I don't know who will win. :fing02: HaHA.. Get ready for a shocker, Benny. :fing02: Get your knee pads, ready !! I wish, I'm really pulling for Cotto this time. I'd love to see him prevail. Sadly, it will not happen under any circumstances. None.

He's better than most people think. Just because he isn't flashy or technically brilliant doesn't mean he isn't hell to fight. Even though he has been a pro for a long time he is still learning and improving. The real idiots are the ones who point to his five losses as a flaw when three of them are when he was under 18, the same age that the other top welters were fighting three rounders with headgear.and thats a good fucken point you put out there for those ididots who know nothing....he was fighting grown men while he was still a young teen!!good post my friend.

If Cotto beats Margarito.. Beats the guy that both Mosley and Mayweather ducked for 8 million dollars.. Man.. I would get on my knees and bow the fuck down. Real talk. I sincerely believe that Cotto is getting railroaded by Top Rank on this matchup. It's an 80's movie scenario if Cotto wins. I will stand up and clap in my livingroom if Miguel somehow beats him. If I'm at ringside I will rush into the ring and put Cotto up on my shoulders and parade him around the arena.. I know alot of people know he's up against it with this one. It would be incredible. This is it. He can be great. I will take down my sig and never say another thing against him, because I will truly be his fan. Get your knee pads, ready !!

Margarito will win by TKO if it happens. Cotto has superior mobility and that might make it possible for him to win some rounds until Margarito catches up with him, but Margarito can remove Cotto from his senses at any point. Cotto will be on his bike every second. Every second. I can absolutely guarantee that. It's a promise. 1000000%. No hate. No diss. This is simple. Cotto doesn't like to get hit, and he doesn't like to be pressured. Margarito is going to hit him and pressure him from bell to bell. This fight is not only not going to go the distance - it's not going to last very long, at all. If Cotto can come back from queer street 8 times or 10 times - we will see him on queer street 8 times or 10 times. This fight just might ruin Miguel Cotto as a fighter. The more he endures the more he's going to get hurt. The best possible case scenario for this will be like a Trinidad/Vargas, with Cotto in the role of Vargas - but like I said; it shouldn't last that long. We here on the forum detailed conclusively that Cotto was not hurt in the late rounds against Mosley. Cotto friends and foes alike concurred on the issue. People like myself were saying a year before that fight that jumping on Cotto was the way to beat him. Shane Mosley illustrated the basic reality of it. Margarito is the worst possible style matchup for Cotto in the sport of Boxing P4P. It's a farce and a setup. A joke, and soon to be a blowout.. Wow, I'm quite surprised at that post Addy....? You really think he will blow out Cotto that easy? Interesting. I don't know if he will or not as I admit I haven't actually watched much of Margarito's fights and can't say either way whether I think he is overrated or underrated. Nonetheless, I do know one thing and that is that it will be a good fight. I think I might disagree with your view of how it will go though, not so in the actual winner of it but in how it will be won. I think it will go the distance, but, I don't know who will win. :fing02:

Cotto doesnt like to get hit? Have you even seen Cotto's fights? Just because he chose to oubox the shit out of Mosley for tha last 3 rounds, doesnt mean, that he doesnt like to get hit!. WHat happen with the judah fight,or the Torres fight,or pinto fight. You just hating men. comparing Cotto to Vargas when he fought Tito. Redicuolus! Vargas had only 20 fights and he was unexperience when he fought a Prime Tito. Cotto is about to get to his peak,he is in his prime.And well experienced!And MArgarito is not Tito Trinidad. You will see Cotto dictating the fight! Brawling when ever he wants and outboxing the Shit out fo Margarito when ever he wants. Cotto TKO 9. Left Hook to the Body! Again! Just hating? :lol1: Watch this fight, pal. You just watch.

It depends on the eye of the beholder. I think he is underrated by most, overrated by VIVA.

My wet dream scenario is Joshua Clottey for a full 12. This is how I thought the fight would play out at first blush when it was first announced. Honestly I can't make up my mind. He has a better jab, better handspeed, better boxer but he's a midget compared to Marg and Margs style exacerbates the problem. I just can't make a pick. My head hurts... All I know is if Cotto wins and wins big then he's the real deal most definitely and should be labeled as Champ at 147 by Ring Magazine. His P4P also goes up a couple of ranks between 2 and 4. If Cotto beats Margarito.. Beats the guy that both Mosley and Mayweather ducked for 8 million dollars.. Man.. I would get on my knees and bow the fuck down. Real talk. I sincerely believe that Cotto is getting railroaded by Top Rank on this matchup. It's an 80's movie scenario if Cotto wins. I will stand up and clap in my livingroom if Miguel somehow beats him. If I'm at ringside I will rush into the ring and put Cotto up on my shoulders and parade him around the arena.. I know alot of people know he's up against it with this one. It would be incredible. This is it. He can be great. I will take down my sig and never say another thing against him, because I will truly be his fan.

Just for fun, WSLPR, is there a scenario where you envision a potential Cotto victory? He's surprised us all before.. Who knows, you know? Cotto has the biggest X factor in the sport. If you compare him last fight and 5 fights ago you would think it's a different guy. My wet dream scenario is Joshua Clottey for a full 12. This is how I thought the fight would play out at first blush when it was first announced. Honestly I can't make up my mind. He has a better jab, better handspeed, better boxer but he's a midget compared to Marg and Margs style exacerbates the problem. I just can't make a pick. My head hurts... All I know is if Cotto wins and wins big then he's the real deal most definitely and should be labeled as Champ at 147 by Ring Magazine. His P4P also goes up a couple of ranks between 2 and 4.

Argh Addison I hate to say it but I think your prediction is spot on. This fight IMO has Hearns-Duran written all over it. Just the absolute scissors to Cotto's paper. This sucks and taking this point of view into account it's no surprise Cotto still hasn't signed the contract. I hope he wins but shit don't think he will... Just for fun, WSLPR, is there a scenario where you envision a potential Cotto victory? He's surprised us all before.. Who knows, you know? Cotto has the biggest X factor in the sport. If you compare him last fight and 5 fights ago you would think it's a different guy.

Argh Addison I hate to say it but I think your prediction is spot on. This fight IMO has Hearns-Duran written all over it. Just the absolute scissors to Cotto's paper. I hope he wins but shit don't think he will...

Good stuff in this thread. :fing02:

The only people who don't respect him are Floyd dick riders who don't wanna believe Floyd don't want it wit him. Tony's a tough mothafucka who'll take on anyone, anytime.