Kelly Pavlik vs Floyd Mayweather at 160

Pavlik has a good chin?? thats news to me. The onyl reason he went on to beat Taylor is because the referee let him. He was stumbling all over the place, that isn`t a good chin. A good chin means either you get tagged and dont even blink, or you get dropped but bounce up again as if it didn`t happen. Kelly was legless for about 2 minutes. Didn't Pavlik eat a lot of punches from Edison Miranda during their fight? Isn't Miranda supposed to be one of, if not the, hardest p4p punchers in the sport? Why bring up Pavlik's chin in this matchup anyway? Floyd has about as much chance of stopping Pavlik as getting struck by lightening.

Pavlik has a good chin?? thats news to me. The onyl reason he went on to beat Taylor is because the referee let him. He was stumbling all over the place, that isn`t a good chin. A good chin means either you get tagged and dont even blink, or you get dropped but bounce up again as if it didn`t happen. Kelly was legless for about 2 minutes.

People in this thread are forgetting that 160 would tear away at Floyd's speed/stamina, he will be carrying more weight which will in turn slow him down a lot. Floyd is weak against a GOOD jab, but see there's a difference because De La Hoya has a good jab and at 154 being YEARS past his prime he was able to get the better of Floyd early on when using his jab.. now, imagine Floyd 6 pounds higher (he wasn't even a full 154 against Oscar) against the current undefeated, undisputed champion who fights behind a jab, a better jab than Oscar's at that. Floyd stands no chance in that fight, when looking at his chances it's like pitching a perfect game for an entire season, it's 99.infinity% chances against him. Pavlik takes a GREAT shot, even when dropped he gets up to win by KO so Floyd wont have anything to surprise Kelly and at the rate he will have to be moving at just to wether the storm by Pavlik will be enough so that by rounds 11-12 Floyd wont be the same. those long arms wont help him because Kelly's arms are longer (I think) and has the height so he is in more control of the range. Floyd would get hurt fighting Kelly, seriously hurt. I don't mean hurt as in cuts or shit like that but in just overall longevity, even if he was to ever win he wouldn't rebound from such a war. the key to beating Floyd is to press him and force him to fight all while working behind your jab, Kelly can do that to a T. also remember Floyd's chin has never really been tested, it has yet to get hit by back to back powershots. I'll find it hard to believe that after 10+ years of never really getting rocked that he will just be able to shake off back to back bombs by someone Pavlik's size.

Oscar is not even a big Junior Middleweight whos used to pushing people around. At this weight he's been more of a speed based boxer puncher. It's a gigantic difference.

This fight will not and shouldn't happen. What's next??? Manny vs Wlad for the Heavyweight title?

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Who is asshole who voted for Floyd by KO?

If Mayweather could beat a middleweight champion, then why wouldn't he fight Winky Wright at 154 with a day-before-fight weigh-in? Flashback to 2005: http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml "Because Wright, who prefers to fight at 160, could probably put on as many as 15 pounds between the weigh-in (the day before) and the fight and enter the ring as high as 165-170, Mayweather's camp requested a morning-of-the-fight weigh-in. That included a stipulation that Wright couldn't go more than eight pounds above the limit." Assuming that Pavlik is allowed to weigh-in the day before the fight, how much of a size advantage would Pavlik retain by going up to 172+, while Mayweather weighed in at 150 for Oscar de la Hoya? Mayweather saw the size difference against Wright as a serious obstacle, how more so would it be against a prime Pavlik who just beat Taylor at 166? Does anyone care to refute?

This is why I'm over at east-side(as well as Sweet Pete) and other more knowledgeable sites most of the time, because of stuff like this. Pavlik is too big for Mayweather, period. Mayweather is not a middleweight and barely made it past a slightly natural bigger fighter in De La Hoya that was past his prime and use pressure tactics. Pavlik is a volume puncher that wouldn't respect Mayweather's power. Even if he doesn't land, he would simply throw punches and game consists of pressuring his opponents he making them work. Oscar's reach also gave Mayweather hell and he landed his jab at will. Think about it, If Mayweather came in at middleweight(past his weight class) then how would he maintain the stamina to fight a fast paced fight against a natural middleweight(with the frame of a light heavyweight) for the entire fight? It wouldn't happen. There is no way that you can take a natural junior welterweight and match him against 6'2 power/volume puncher that pressures you for every minute of every round that has a great chin as well. What do i have to say to that? Pavlik TKO 8.

Floyd is one of the most talented fighters there has ever been. Pavlik is simply a guy at the top of his division at this moment in time. He isn't a great boxer, he has some pop and alot of heart but he is light years away from floyd in terms of talent. This fight would be a complete mismatch if you Floyd was an inside fighter who was going to stand and trade. Of course Floyd gets knocked out if he gets hit on the chin, but how many times have we seen floyd get hit on the chin by fighters with more speed than Pavlik? Just because a guy outweighs you by 20lbs doesn`t mean he can automatically knock you out, he has to catch you first. Floyd defence and ring craft would give him a decent shot at winning on points, i think this would be a 50-50 fight, but i voted for Floyd because Wlad Owns would ask Klitschko to marry him if he could.

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Pavlik....duh. THat doesn't mean Floyd Mayweather isn't lightyears ahead of Kelly Pavlik, size/height difference wouldn't work out. If Floyd was 6' and 160, I'd say he'd knock Pavlik TFO, but that's not the case

Roy Jones didn't have to take many flush shots against Ruiz because he doesn't get hit with his defence. Mayweather's defence is all about blocking shots, he still takes them.. Whoever voted for Mayweather here are fucking retards.

26 dellusional Floyd nuthuggers have been exposed so far. This is the beauty of having public polls. Hmmmm... I dont think this is as simple as such. Mayweather's skills and quickness is the best in boxing today, and although Pavliks skills tend to be underrated then skill-wise and in terms of footwork the edge clearly would belong to PBF. The big difference comes in weight and power. As for power PBF is severely outgunned especially considering the fight being at 160. The question is if Pavlik would be able to land the big shots. And that is a considerable if IMO. I could see a decision for PBF but ultimately I would have to go with Pavlik by late stoppage.

26 dellusional Floyd nuthuggers have been exposed so far. This is the beauty of having public polls.

LMAO :rofl: :rofl: Floyd Mayweather fans are the worst there is. The difference between Mayweather and Jones is Mayweather lets people hit him on his elbows and shoulders while Jones just doesn't let anyone hit him at all. Mayweather even in blocking Pavlik's shots would feel them and would get knocked out eventually.

Oscar's size and strength seriously bothered Mayweather last May. Floyd does not want to fight at middleweight. Nor should he.

If Mayweather could beat a middleweight champion, then why wouldn't he fight Winky Wright at 154 with a day-before-fight weigh-in? Flashback to 2005: http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml "Because Wright, who prefers to fight at 160, could probably put on as many as 15 pounds between the weigh-in (the day before) and the fight and enter the ring as high as 165-170, Mayweather's camp requested a morning-of-the-fight weigh-in. That included a stipulation that Wright couldn't go more than eight pounds above the limit." Assuming that Pavlik is allowed to weigh-in the day before the fight, how much of a size advantage would Pavlik retain by going up to 172+, while Mayweather weighed in at 150 for Oscar de la Hoya? Mayweather saw the size difference against Wright as a serious obstacle, how more so would it be against a prime Pavlik who just beat Taylor at 166?

if i vote for floyd, am i automatically a nuthugger? or just someone who thinks that its highly possibly that floyd could outbox kelly seems like you cant give an honest opinion without being flamed in here...exactly, dickheads like wlad own and other punk ass hors on here think because of how small floyd is to kelly that he stands no chance. i see floyd outboxing the living shit out of pavlik, like spinks did taylor, but seeing as floyd is a master boxer, much more pure than spinks ever been and moves better, and does pretty much everything better, i don't see how kelly stands a chance of beating him minus him knocking him out, and floyd has not weak chin by any means, i'd pick floyd over kelly and taylor any day. he's too good, skillwise. kelly is a good fighter, but is too basic for floyd.

pavlik is too big.