alzaghe got 8M $ against Hopkins, which is more than Jones purse against Tito.
LOL. You just won't let it go, will you? Fine.
First, Jones took NO purse against Tito, he was only guaranteed PPV. In other words, he didn't care.
But umm..8 million? That's the best you got? LOL. Jones made more for Ruiz & Tarver II. WAY MORE.
We're finished now.
I should also add that Jones stands to make near eight figures for the PPV revenue against Tito.
OK...back to your delusional mindstate.
If Roy Jones prices himself out of this fight hes crazy. Just give Calzaghe anything he wants, otherwise he won't get the fight.
Is Roy pulling this bullshit agian?
Fuck Roy, Calzaghe should just fight someone else. He don't need Roy.
alzaghe got 8M $ against Hopkins, which is more than Jones purse against Tito.
roys intention wasnt to make a lot of money on the tito fight... it was just to win the fight, and get back on track... tito was gauranteed 10 M... and don and roy split the rest, that was the deal... which is another reason roy doesnt want the bigger purse with joe either... its just to get the fight...
LOL@ you talking about Calzaghe making $4 mil for the biggest fight of his career when Jones used to make more for mandatories.
alzaghe got 8M $ against Hopkins, which is more than Jones purse against Tito.
It was a LOSS because they tought that Hopkins could put some asses in the seats. They expected "only" 6K ppl from the UK which is still a good number. Hopkins couldn't sell a few thousand seats.
Man the fight will be in 2008, not 10 years ago so nobody gives a shit. Jones PPV before Trinidad could not sell SHIT!
Newsflash...the Jones-Trinidad PPV DID happen. Sorry, can't ignore it and talk about the past! Here's another newsflash...Jones-Ruiz did HIGHER than Jones-Tito.
Here's some more news for you - the next Calzaghe PPV will be his FIRST.
And here's a final newsbrief for you - the only way he GETS on PPV is to fight Jones.
Are we done here?
LOL@ you talking about Calzaghe making $4 mil for the biggest fight of his career when Jones used to make more for mandatories.
Haha. Jones was getting 5 million to fight Richard Frazier. And gettign 12 million viewers on HBO to watch it. What's your point?
And Jones did 560k for John Ruiz. This is finance, not who can fill up the cheap seats.
Furthermore, Planet Hollywood took a LOSS on Calzaghe-Hopkins. A LOSS.
So Calzaghe's career high payday is a regular one for Jones. Thank you.
It was a LOSS because they tought that Hopkins could put some asses in the seats. They expected "only" 6K ppl from the UK which is still a good number. Hopkins couldn't sell a few thousand seats.
Man the fight will be in 2008, not 10 years ago so nobody gives a shit. Jones PPV before Trinidad could not sell SHIT!
1. Tarver was not at the "peak of his powers."
2. Tarver had just made the Rocky movie where he put on like 40 lbs.
funny how you can use it for tarver but not for roy
I think both fighters have chances to win this fight, but if Roy don't take this fight it'll be a very bad move on his part I think his the naturally bigger, stronger, quicker man. FIGHT CALZAGHE EVEN FOR FREE.
1. Tarver was not at the "peak of his powers."
2. Tarver had just made the Rocky movie where he put on like 40 lbs.
Yeah...he put on about 15lbs for the role - he walks around at 200. hate to pull rank but I spoke to him several times prior to that bout about any weight issues.
But...Tarver was coming off back to back victories over Jones & Johnson. At what point was he ranked higher?
I don't think I'm the only person in the world who considers Tarver to be a level below the best, and I don't think I'm alone in believing Kessler is the better fighter, so I'd say its always up for debate!
However, even if I don't believe Tarver is an incredible win for Hopkins, I agree that at this point that judgement is only an opinion, and currently the facts and belts are on Tarver's side.
Nice to be able to argue with someone who has a meaningful opinion.
Cheers to that!
Whether you rate Tarver highly or not is of little relevance. He beat Woods, Johnson, Eric Harding, and Roy Jones (twice). His resume is WORLD'S better than Kessler's.
Plus, Hops moved up two divisions to do it - while Tarver was at the peak of his powers.
Sorry, this one isn't really up for debate.
1. Tarver was not at the "peak of his powers."
2. Tarver had just made the Rocky movie where he put on like 40 lbs.
Whether you rate Tarver highly or not is of little relevance. He beat Woods, Johnson, Eric Harding, and Roy Jones (twice). His resume is WORLD'S better than Kessler's.
Plus, Hops moved up two divisions to do it - while Tarver was at the peak of his powers.
Sorry, this one isn't really up for debate.
I don't think I'm the only person in the world who considers Tarver to be a level below the best, and I don't think I'm alone in believing Kessler is the better fighter, so I'd say its always up for debate!
However, even if I don't believe Tarver is an incredible win for Hopkins, I agree that at this point that judgement is only an opinion, and currently the facts and belts are on Tarver's side.
Nice to be able to argue with someone who has a meaningful opinion.
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Man Calzaghe wasn't a big draw during the last years. But he got over 4M for the Manfredo and Kessler-fights each. (Kessler arround 5M $). DO you think that Jones could do same numbers against Manfredo and Kessler? Anyway Calzaghe doesn't need Jones for a LV fight. I have never seen more expensive tickets than for Hopkins-Calzaghe starting at 250$. But over 10000 ppl came from GB. Do you think Planet Holywood would have paid 11M fee to host the event without brits crossing the atlantic?
There is no way Jones could bring over 10K ppl watching him at LV. No way.
Haha. Jones was getting 5 million to fight Richard Frazier. And gettign 12 million viewers on HBO to watch it. What's your point?
And Jones did 560k for John Ruiz. This is finance, not who can fill up the cheap seats.
Furthermore, Planet Hollywood took a LOSS on Calzaghe-Hopkins. A LOSS.
So Calzaghe's career high payday is a regular one for Jones. Thank you.
It being in Wales doesn't stop it from being on Pay-Per-View now does it?
Again, what about my other questions? What's Calzaghe's career high payday? Career high in pay-per-view?
Ok then.
Man Calzaghe wasn't a big draw during the last years. But he got over 4M for the Manfredo and Kessler-fights each. (Kessler arround 5M $). DO you think that Jones could do same numbers against Manfredo and Kessler? Anyway Calzaghe doesn't need Jones for a LV fight. I have never seen more expensive tickets than for Hopkins-Calzaghe starting at 250$. But over 10000 ppl came from GB. Do you think Planet Holywood would have paid 11M fee to host the event without brits crossing the atlantic?
There is no way Jones could bring over 10K ppl watching him at LV. No way.
You points are good ones, and Tarver is for me Hopkins's best win, but in truth I just don't rate Tarver that highly. I read somewhere someone describing him as an "opportunist champion" and I think that's about right. For me he is a good-but-not-great boxer who has managed to take belts in fortuitous circumstances. Woods and Johnson are decent, but not fantastic and Tarver would have been destroyed by a prime Jones.
However, I am the first to say that a boxers record counts so I should give Tarver credit I suppose and therefore Hopkins as well. As for Kessler, to me he looks the real deal, but I agree Tarver on paper has the better record.
Whether you rate Tarver highly or not is of little relevance. He beat Woods, Johnson, Eric Harding, and Roy Jones (twice). His resume is WORLD'S better than Kessler's.
Plus, Hops moved up two divisions to do it - while Tarver was at the peak of his powers.
Sorry, this one isn't really up for debate.
Calzaghe-Hopkins would have done better in Wales.
It being in Wales doesn't stop it from being on Pay-Per-View now does it?
Again, what about my other questions? What's Calzaghe's career high payday? Career high in pay-per-view?
Ok then.
Excellent points but in no way is a win over Kessler CLOSE to a win over Tarver. At all.
For starters, Hopkins leaped TWO divisions to fight the light heavyweight champ. STRIKE ONE.
Tarver, having beaten guys like Roy Jones, Glen Johnson, Clinton Woods, and many others, has a far better resume than Kessler. STRIKE TWO.
Finally, yes, I think you should wait and see what Kessler does with his career. If he goes the Lacy route, how good does Calzaghe's resume look then? Tarver, on the other hand, just regained a title. STRIKE THREE.
You points are good ones, and Tarver is for me Hopkins's best win, but in truth I just don't rate Tarver that highly. I read somewhere someone describing him as an "opportunist champion" and I think that's about right. For me he is a good-but-not-great boxer who has managed to take belts in fortuitous circumstances. Woods and Johnson are decent, but not fantastic and Tarver would have been destroyed by a prime Jones.
However, I am the first to say that a boxers record counts so I should give Tarver credit I suppose and therefore Hopkins as well. As for Kessler, to me he looks the real deal, but I agree Tarver on paper has the better record.
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Calzaghe-Hopkins would have done better in Wales.
Calzaghe-Jones won't be on PPV anyway. Calzaghe is not a big name in the US and Jones is no way a huge PPV-draw like Tito. Look at the numbers against the tiger und Prince. I don't wann take anything away from Jones because it's more important to be a good fighter than a huge draw.
Calzaghe-Manfredo tickets started at 100$. Americans need to sell 25$ tickets to fill a stadium (like DLH).
That's nice to know. Thanks for the tidbit. Feel free to answer ANY of the plenty questions I posed in my previous post to you. I believe they are far more relevant than what's the cheaper (or most expensive - why didn't you bring that up?) ticket.