De La Hoya Controversy

If you take away the 12th round, Quartey/DLH is nearly like Mayweather/DLH. Quartey swept 8-11 with clean punches while Oscar just posed and occasionaly threw a flurry. I thought Oscar got the better of Mosley when I saw it years ago. And I had him beating Whitaker even though it's a very tricky fight to score. The Whitaker fight was a pain to score. I don't know how people can honestly say that was a "robbery" when the rounds were so close with most punches missing. That was a fight that could've gone either way. Quartey also won rounds 6 and 7. Round 10 was probably an Oscar round. That was one of the easier fights to score among DLH's controversial decisions. DLH's been in a lot of close debatable/controversial decisions, but not as many as James Toney. Mike McCallum 1 and 2 Reggie Johnson Montell Griffin 1 and 2 Dave Tiberi Sam Peter 1

If you take away the 12th round, Quartey/DLH is nearly like Mayweather/DLH. Quartey swept 8-11 with clean punches while Oscar just posed and occasionaly threw a flurry. I thought Oscar got the better of Mosley when I saw it years ago. And I had him beating Whitaker even though it's a very tricky fight to score.

That doesn't make it look any smarter, does it? Sheeple will always be sheeple. It's not being sheep, it's just what people do on boxing boards. Discuss and debate current boxing and boxing history.

he lost to mayweather, he did beat mosley the 2nd time

Hadn't seen the Whitaker fight in a while. Somebody busted out a tape of it I tried to watch while I was drunk as hell and kept passin out during it. Shoulda asked to borrow that shit but I still remember Oscar relying on the right cuz southpaw Sweet Pea wouldn't let him land a hook. Oscar got dropped, and Whitaker froze in the 12th, which allowed a DLH rally to even it up. The scores he gets are fuckin insane.

Big boxing day for me and some other cats that had the day off. Oscar's name just came up in our boxing discussion. We're talkin about his close fights, opinions v facts. My take on it: Drew with Whitaker (he got the decision) Lost to Quartey (he got the decision) Pissed away the last 3 rds and still beat Trinidad (he lost the decision) Beat Mosley in the rematch (he lost the decision) Lost to Sturm (he got the decision) Lost to Mayweather (he lost the decision) I only agreed with the Mayweather outcome. Curious about everybody else's thoughts. I had: Beating Whitaker by 1 point Beating Quartay by 2 points Beat Trinidad Beat Mosely in rematch Lost to Sturm Lost to Mayweather

That doesn't make it look any smarter, does it? Sheeple will always be sheeple. LOL :lol1:

People like to discuss controversial decisions and whatnot. Hell, a lot people still argue Hagler-Leonard from 1987. Controversial fights do that, people still debate them many years later. That doesn't make it look any smarter, does it? Sheeple will always be sheeple.

Again, bitching about close fights 10 years after they took place is nothing short of insanely retarded. Oscar fought the best, was ultra-competitive in all of them, won some he should have lost, lost some he should have lost and got spanked in the one he should have won. That makes no sense, but who cares? :dunno: People like to discuss controversial decisions and whatnot. Hell, a lot people still argue Hagler-Leonard from 1987. Controversial fights do that, people still debate them many years later.

Again, bitching about close fights 10 years after they took place is nothing short of insanely retarded. Oscar fought the best, was ultra-competitive in all of them, won some he should have lost, lost some he should have lost and got spanked in the one he should have won. That makes no sense, but who cares? :dunno:

He did NOT lose to Quartey, the fight was close and entertaining ass fuck but Oscar won, that last knockdown sealed the victory for him. Calling that fight "entertaining as fuck" is pretty nice, when there were 2 exciting rounds and the rest was very tactical, with a lot of staring. The knockdown didn't seal shit, you still have to be generous to DLH for him to win that fight. Say you're nice and give him 3 of the first 5 rounds (it can easily by 3-2 Ike or 2-2-1). Ike wins round 6 when both guys go down, as he controlled the round after the KDs. DLH did fuck all offensively from rounds 7 through 9, despite Foreman claiming "not much is a lot for Oscar De La Hoya". DLH won none of the rounds from 6 thru 9. DLH needs to win the next 3 rounds to win the fight, and giving him the 11th round is very iffy. As to the subject, for the controversial decisions: Whitaker: Draw Quartey: Quartey won Trinidad: De La Hoya won Mosley II: De La Hoya won. Mosley was on steroids too. Sturm: Sturm won

I had him beating Quartey, Whitaker, Trinidad and Mosley the second time. I had him losing to Sturm and Mayweather. same here.

Maybe De La Hoya-Quartey is one of those fights that you have to watch really closely, like Mayweather-Castillo I. Back when I scored fights while watching them, I always came up with 114-112 for Mayweather over Castillo, but when I rewatched it a while ago, and didn't score it (I refuse to do so now), it looked like Castillo had the clear advantage. I didn't score De La Hoya-Quartey, but Quartey definately looked like he was winning a lot of the rounds, and overall, it looked like he was doing better (minus to 12th round, which was just horrible for him. I'm shocked that fight wasn't stopped).

Oscar lost worse to Sturm than he did to Mayweather. It just goes to show you that a top 10 middleweight can beat a p4p elite fighter at 147 easily. According to your theory, they should, 13 lb difference.

Only legit losses were, Sturm,Hopkins,Mosley 1 . He beat Whitaker,Tito,quartey, and Mosley in the rematch. We should all appreciate a fighter like Oscar, who takes on these guys instead of looking for the easy payday.

I had him beating Quartey, Whitaker, Trinidad and Mosley the second time. I had him losing to Sturm and Mayweather.

I need to score the Whitaker and Quartey fights again, but I definitely had Oscar beating Mosley in the rematch (116-112) and Trinidad (116-112). I had him losing to Sturm (a close but clear 115-113) and Mayweather (116-112).