Are people forgetting that Mayweather was a 'knock-out' artist at 130. Also, Mayweather is naturally bigger than Morale, Barrera, or Pac and his punch would be about to effect them tremedously. Floyd has greater speed, skill, power at that weight, so I find it difficult to believe that people would pick Morales over PBF.
Mayweather was not even close to a KO artist at 130.
Who did he KO in such a fashion that made you think that he was a KO artist?
130 title fights
Genaro Hernandez - Quit on his stool.
Angel Manfredy - TKO stoppage on the ropes after 10+ consecutive punches landed.
Carlos Rios - Decision.
Justin Juuko - Stoppage on a right hand. Floyd's only true "KO" at the weight.
Gregorio Vargas - Decision.
Carlos Gerena - Doctor stoppage. Gerena did manage to say "No punch!" in the middle of the fight.
Emanuel Burton - Corner stoppage. Burton didn't look hurt at all in the fight.
Diego Corrales - Corner stoppage. Many knockdowns, but Corrales didn't look seriously hurt in any of them.
Carlos Hernandez - Decision.
Jesus Chavez - Corner stoppage. Chavez didn't look seriously hurt, although his head was being knocked around at will with uppercuts.
Floyd had a few stoppages at 130, but he really wasn't a knockout puncher at all. He stopped his opponents on the accumulation of punches. Seriously, the proof is in the pudding... how many times did Floyd put an opponent down who looked seriously hurt?
Are people forgetting that Mayweather was a 'knock-out' artist at 130. Also, Mayweather is naturally bigger than Morale, Barrera, or Pac and his punch would be about to effect them tremedously. Floyd has greater speed, skill, power at that weight, so I find it difficult to believe that people would pick Morales over PBF.
Margarito or someone like Glen Johnson for most people. Jorge Arce and Manny Pacquiao do the trick as well.
Morales was unique for me because of the level of technique and skill he showed WHILE making it a hell of a fight.
Barrera-Morales II had me frothing at the mouth with excitement if that tells you anything.
couldnt of said any better!
Margarito or someone like Glen Johnson for most people. Jorge Arce and Manny Pacquiao do the trick as well.
Morales was unique for me because of the level of technique and skill he showed WHILE making it a hell of a fight.
Barrera-Morales II had me frothing at the mouth with excitement if that tells you anything.
fuckin' amen to that
who desnt bro? I mean there isnt ONE fighter right now that bring as much exitment to the table.... or could u name one?
Margarito or someone like Glen Johnson for most people. Jorge Arce and Manny Pacquiao do the trick as well.
Morales was unique for me because of the level of technique and skill he showed WHILE making it a hell of a fight.
Barrera-Morales II had me frothing at the mouth with excitement if that tells you anything.
ahhh thanx bro, u learn somthing new everyday
Same here! I had no idea their fight was at lightweight. I thought David Diaz was Morales's first venture into that weight class.
I miss Erik Morales. :(
I think it wasnt a tune up, i think he was going for the title in the 4th weight class. correct me if im wrong
I do think that one was incorrect. The WBC International Lightweight Title was on the line, but not a real ABC belt that is considered one of the four legitimate world titles. Also, on the -Skidz- version that I have of Pacquiao-Morales II (all of the -Skidz- videos have a paragraph or so about the fight), it says that it was the rematch that almost didn't happen. Pacquiao won his tune-up bout against Hector Velazquez, but Morales shockingly lost a decision to Zahir Raheem. That makes me think that it was all planned out to have a rematch, and Raheem was seen as an underachiever for the most part that Morales should have had a fairly easy time with.
The Zahir Raheem fight was at 135
Fuck me, you are right!
Why the hell did Morales take a tune-up in the weight class above where the Pacquiao rematch was going to be at.
The Zahir Raheem fight was at 135
Morales is not a brawler at all really.
He does get very aggressive sometimes, but he does not wing punches crazily with 110% power for more than one shot, at most.
He was a very aggressive boxer-puncher, which usually are not wild enough to bother a very defensive fighter.
Also, remember what defensive specialist Zahir Raheem did to Morales at 130. Morales's best days were behind him at 130.
Finally, the 15 people who voted Floyd KO are absolutely out of their fucking minds. Morales has the best chin I have ever seen. Ever. I am still convinced to this day that Pacquiao did not have him hurt once. He lost his balance every time (they were legit knockdowns, but he wasn't on queer street), and gave up in the third fight because he knew his reflexes had no chance against this fast, strong Pinoy kid who was coming at him every second.
Close decision win for Mayweather, although I wouldn't be shocked about a Morales decision. No KO in this one, either way.
I would take Azumah Nelson at his peak over a 130 pound Mayweather.
Mayweather takes a hard fought, but lopsided decision over Erik at 130. Something of the 117-111 variety sounds right. Clean punching would bust up Erik's face, but Erik's ability to switch gears would keep Mayweather fighting all 12 rounds.
Shit I forgot Nelson.
I would pick Mayweather above Arguello and Nelson, but in close fights, where I would not be surprised to see Arguello or Nelson getting the nod. Let's say that in a trilogy against either, I would bet on Mayweather winning at least two fights.
Nelson in particular would be better suited stylewise to trouble Mayweather. Arguello even with his skills, righthand bombs, and toughness, would a bit too straightforward for Mayweather. He would not present him with a lot of puzzles, and would leave him too much time to think.
It's not even close.
Mayweather DOMINATES any featherweight you put in the ring with him. The only exception being a young Arguello, who went on to be a great 130-135 fighter.
I voted KO as in fight does not go the distance, not as in Morales gets caught and counted out, because that's pretty close to impossible. A TKO or a corner/doctor stoppage is very likely.
I will happily proceed to add to my ignore list those who picked Morales, because it is one of the most ludicrous opinion I have read on this website, and it shows either ignorance or inability to put logic together with empirical observations.
I would take Azumah Nelson at his peak over a 130 pound Mayweather.
Mayweather takes a hard fought, but lopsided decision over Erik at 130. Something of the 117-111 variety sounds right. Clean punching would bust up Erik's face, but Erik's ability to switch gears would keep Mayweather fighting all 12 rounds.
Junior Jones had success with Morales when his chin held up, so would a guy thats a better pure boxer, faster, better chinned, better stamina, better diverse arsenal and better defensively would do? Mayweather by wide UD.
Sweet