How did you score it?

i had rounds 1,3,9 and 10 for hopkins... nice Avatar. LOL

i had rounds 1,3,9 and 10 for hopkins...

Hopkins was the better fighter/scrapper/cagey old bastard. But if you're gonna be so defensive then those pot shots have to be more damaging and you need to land them flush, apart from the knockdown obviously, I didn't ever think Joe was in trouble. I think it was much closer than people make it out to be. And I thought Joe got hurt in them middle rounds where he got stopped in his tracks, but I forgot what round it was.

114-113 Joe C.

Hopkins was the better fighter/scrapper/cagey old bastard. But if you're gonna be so defensive then those pot shots have to be more damaging and you need to land them flush, apart from the knockdown obviously, I didn't ever think Joe was in trouble.

I actually scored it 116-113 (not 116-112 as I stated earlier) for Hopkins. I scored it as follows: R1: 10-8 Hopkins R2: 10-9 Hopkins R3: 10-9 Hopkins R4: 10-9 Hopkins R5: 10-9 Calzaghe R6: 10-9 Hopkins R7: 10-10 even R8: 10-9 Hopkins R9: 10-9 Calzaghe R10: 10-10 even R11: 10-9 Calzaghe R12: 10-9 Calzaghe Again, I'm not worried about the scoring or the official outcome. Bernard tired down the stretch, no question, but I thought he landed the cleaner, better shots. Joe looked awful IMO. He threw some of the gayest punches I've seen in quite some time. Apparently a lot of people were impressed by him though. I take it you mean his sissy slaps? right? IMO they were not effective ,just trying to keep busy.

Maybe you have head lice. Anyway, how did you score each round? I actually scored it 116-113 (not 116-112 as I stated earlier) for Hopkins. I scored it as follows: R1: 10-8 Hopkins R2: 10-9 Hopkins R3: 10-9 Hopkins R4: 10-9 Hopkins R5: 10-9 Calzaghe R6: 10-9 Hopkins R7: 10-10 even R8: 10-9 Hopkins R9: 10-9 Calzaghe R10: 10-10 even R11: 10-9 Calzaghe R12: 10-9 Calzaghe Again, I'm not worried about the scoring or the official outcome. Bernard tired down the stretch, no question, but I thought he landed the cleaner, better shots. Joe looked awful IMO. He threw some of the gayest punches I've seen in quite some time. Apparently a lot of people were impressed by him though.

Calzaghe clearly won but Hopkins was the better boxer. he did show his cageyness.

I think 114-113 or 115-112 Calzaghe or whatever the judges gave him were right scores. There were rounds I thought Hopkins closely won where he landed several hard, clean power punches. Ultimately Joe just outworked him with his faster hands and combinations.

114-113 for Hopkins, but the swaying rounds were 5 and 7 that could have gone to Calzaghe. Maybe round 8 too, but I thought Hopkins clearly won that round even though a lot disagreed. So I'm not to upset that Hopkins didn't win because Joe put up a really good fight and I was impressed. Anything past 115-112 for Joe shouldn't be taken seriously. That's the biggest stretch you could have it and it should have been 114-113 for Joe insted of that fucking Harold ledderman card as an official card. 116-111 was sad. edit: WTF? 117-110 was even worse.

Anyway, the fight went pretty much how I expected it to. Hopkins is the better fighter, and landed the better punches, but doesn't throw enough. It's why he lost to Jermaine Taylor twice. Calzaghe got the job done by simply outworking Hopkins. Agree with you again. Expect some green

You think that a fighter should receive a point deduction because one punch accidently landed just below the waist line? Are you sure you didn't watch Golota vs Bowe by mistake? one low blow? what fight were you watching? or, do you think the first couple didn't count even though the ref acknowledged them?

Calzaghe clearly won but Hopkins was the better boxer.

A point taken for that!? That would have been ridiculous. I had it 115 - 112 to Joe. Hopkins landed perhaps 3 nice clean shots, Joe was far busier and was the aggressor. Not Joe's best performance, but he beat a great fighter tonight. Chuffed for him.

I had it 117-110 Calzaghe he didn't land a whole lot when he wasn't locked up with Joe C - he leaned in with his head, held, and cheapshotted. He avoided getting hit a lot, but he did get hit a lot considering the pace and makeup of the fight. Like late career James Toney and Roy Jones, his skill set has declined but he's too proud to admit he loses a fight. And Adelaide Byrd is yet another example for the argument of women not being allowed to judge fights... he knew things weren't going his way - thus the zab Judaesque low blow full-blown acting production...even though he low blowd to the crotch and leg whenever they would lock up

Anyway, the fight went pretty much how I expected it to. Hopkins is the better fighter, and landed the better punches, but doesn't throw enough. It's why he lost to Jermaine Taylor twice. Calzaghe got the job done by simply outworking Hopkins.

114-113 Hopkins, though many rounds couldve went either way

115-112 calzaghe

me too. the guy hardly landed anything clean at all. that is why i gave rounds to bhop. he actually landed clean punches. Everything else he did was dirty.

I think if Bhop tried to make more combos he might have pulled more rounds and clearly show himself "schooling" Joe.