This thread will be used as a no excuses to 43 yr old Bernard!

i wasnt talkin about you ? lol Yeah I know I was talking about the guy that was hatin on Roy

This will be a very intresting fight...

Not an idiot but a complete buttplug toolshed take in in the rumplestiltskin idiot i wasnt talkin about you ? lol

Calzaghe only get credit if he KOs or completely dominates Hopkins. Otherwise... it was a 43 year old Hopkins. Agreed. And even then his resume will always hold him back from the highest echelon. Unless he decides to keep fighting beyond his one planned fight after this.

wow your an idiot........ Not an idiot but a complete buttplug toolshed take in in the rumplestiltskin idiot

When Calzaghe beats him, this thread will be brought up if anybody uses the "Oh so what, Calzaghe beat a 43 year old Hopkins" line. Everyone knows how Bernard is an exception to the age rule due to his late starting career and his wins over Tarver and Wright. When Calzaghe beats him, he beats him fair and square. NO EXCUSES Calzaghe only get credit if he KOs or completely dominates Hopkins. Otherwise... it was a 43 year old Hopkins.

smart money is on the executioner

When Calzaghe beats him, this thread will be brought up if anybody uses the "Oh so what, Calzaghe beat a 43 year old Hopkins" line. Everyone knows how Bernard is an exception to the age rule due to his late starting career and his wins over Tarver and Wright. When Calzaghe beats him, he beats him fair and square. NO EXCUSES Calzaghe has already set himself up by saying he won't lose to a 43 year old. So you might as well prepare yourself in the fact that JC is in a lose lose situation as far as his clout goes.

Both brilliant fighters, I'm a fan of both, but a more of a fan of Joe. Huge credit to whoever wins. It will be easily be their most impressive victory to date. As a fan of both, I'm praying for a draw. Ha! But I would be most content with a Calzaghe victory. Joe wants to keep his unbeaten record in tact, and who am I to say he doesn't deserve it? What the hell have I done in comparison? He has provided some great entertainment over the years and, in my opinion, he's a person the world needs to remember. Fighters like this don't come around often, they are an extreme rarity. After Joe retires, I'll be interested to know how long it'll be before we see another fighter who's able to stay at the very top of their division and how long they reign as a champion, how long it will be before anyone can smash a record of 18 years without losing a fight (amateur into pro), even match his amateur record where he made achievements unheard of since the 1930's, and, hopefully, retire unbeaten. Hopkins has losses on his resume already. I won't feel bad if he loses because of that, and the fact that his place in history is already sealed. As a compassionate human being, I wish Joe all the luck in the world and hope he gets to realize the dream he's been passionately and patiently working towards.

if joe wins this will obviously be his best win, but like someone said he deserves some credit but not all due to hopkins' age. its a big reason why hes the favorite to win

hahahah this jeffries character hits me with red k saying roy is a little cheating bitch awwwwe is that your way of throwing an online temper tantrum sweetheart? someone get a bucket his pussy is leakin all over this place

B-Hop is always in shape and doesn't have a lot of damage on him so the age excuse would be bullshit. Joe C has proven himself to be an A class fighter so nobody can use that overrated shit to discredit Nard if he beats Joe.

Calzaghe still will deserve credit as Hopkins is not your average 43 year old, and Joe is no spring chicken himself in his mid 30s, but it is clear that Hopkins at 43 isn't as good as he used to be. There's a reason why Hopkins throws a punch every eon. Older fighters have to conserve their energy and pick their spots more. They can still do some of the brilliant things, but only in flashes. Hopkins has had to adapt, and has done well in this regard thanks to his all around skills and intelligence and work ethic. He fought a great fight against Tarver, but I don't think the Hopkins of a few years earlier loses to Jermaine Taylor. Hopkins's workrate has been crap since the 3rd Allen fight, with the exception of the Wright fight, which a lot of that was short punches while in the clinch. Hopkins threw 640 punches in the Wright fight, which was 8 months ago. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=9623 That's almost twice as many punches as he threw in the first Taylor fight. Is he really slowing down as everyone is saying?

Ahem.......this is a NO EXCUSES thread. As long as we're off topic, let's talk about how ordinary a fighter Roy Jones Jr would have been without steroids. wow your an idiot........

very true........ Ahem.......this is a NO EXCUSES thread. As long as we're off topic, let's talk about how ordinary a fighter Roy Jones Jr would have been without steroids.

what was Lacy's best win?? what was Kessler's biggest test? How old is Hopkins? very true........

what was Lacy's best win?? what was Kessler's biggest test? How old is Hopkins? don't bother making excuses before the fight has even started.

Calzaghe still will deserve credit as Hopkins is not your average 43 year old, and Joe is no spring chicken himself in his mid 30s, but it is clear that Hopkins at 43 isn't as good as he used to be. There's a reason why Hopkins throws a punch every eon. Older fighters have to conserve their energy and pick their spots more. They can still do some of the brilliant things, but only in flashes. Hopkins has had to adapt, and has done well in this regard thanks to his all around skills and intelligence and work ethic. He fought a great fight against Tarver, but I don't think the Hopkins of a few years earlier loses to Jermaine Taylor. Hopkins's workrate has been crap since the 3rd Allen fight, with the exception of the Wright fight, which a lot of that was short punches while in the clinch.

anyone want to bet? i got calzaghe to win :)

Hopkins is another machine all together, this guy is once in a lifetime, i think he can fight till hes 48 if he wanted too, this age thing means nothing to me, Calzaghes no spring chicken either.