Calzaghe isnt even the best opponent Hopkins has faced....

Hopkins has NEVER beat a fighter better than Calzaghe!

well on paper it might not seem as though Calzaghe is the best oponent his has faced but we all know the reallity of the situation which is that Calzaghe is the best he has faced besides Rjj and he lossed that fight so i dont see how that is relative it was like Glen Kelly telling a rookie David Haye ive been in thier with Roy Jones ,yeah but u got the shit kicked out of ya i dont think anyone can moan that this fight is taking place now when Hopkins is 43 cause that is Hopkins fault and he is paying the price for it :lol1:

Hopkins has faced one person his size that was better than Calzaghe, RJJ. As I remember he didn't do so well in that one and he's a lot older now.

IMO RJJ would of beaten Calzaghe very easily, RJJ is still very slick in the ring(tito fight) and dosn't have the speed he once had but he had but can wow you and hit u with sum pop at the end of his shots. Calzaghe is a good fighter, but B-hop will show calzaghe things he hasn't seen, Clinch punching, and even step on his lead foot, this will be a good fight and i can't wait. you do realise he has had 44 professional fights and won them all right? i'm sure he's seen most of it before

IMO RJJ would of beaten Calzaghe very easily, RJJ is still very slick in the ring(tito fight) and dosn't have the speed he once had but he had but can wow you and hit u with sum pop at the end of his shots. Calzaghe is a good fighter, but B-hop will show calzaghe things he hasn't seen, Clinch punching, and even step on his lead foot, this will be a good fight and i can't wait.

calzaghe has always wanted bhop but never got him for some reason and i gta admit this has to be the 2nd best opposition in years because of the age difference if he wins then hes proven alot but roy jones jr is the best opposition hes faced imo.

I understand you are from Wales but Calzaghe doesn't beat RJJ in his prime, no way no how. RJJ was one of the most naturaly talented fighter's I have ever seen. He was a combination of power and speed that is rarely seen in boxing. I respect Calzaghe for being a tough fighter and a volume puncher but he's in a perfect era of boxing where he never had to face a prime RJJ, Hopkins or Toney......... I said the Calzaghe of today would have beaten that young, green and unfinished Roy Jones that Hopkins fought all those years ago. Roy obviously got better after his fight with Bernard.

Joe Calzaghe would have beaten that green Roy Jones who beat Hopkins all those years ago. Prime for prime is another subject though. I think Calzaghe is the best fighter Hopkins has ever fought. I understand you are from Wales but Calzaghe doesn't beat RJJ in his prime, no way no how. RJJ was one of the most naturaly talented fighter's I have ever seen. He was a combination of power and speed that is rarely seen in boxing. I respect Calzaghe for being a tough fighter and a volume puncher but he's in a perfect era of boxing where he never had to face a prime RJJ, Hopkins or Toney.........

but Hopkins is the best opponent Calzaghe will fight. hes not fighting in his backyard, 1st time in the usa, and has to move up in weight. if hopkins didnt get outpointed by jermaine taylor twice no one would even give calzaghe a chance. o yea im not trying to say calzaghe isnt good or the best at his division, but i cant see him beating hopkins by outworking him like many believe. You mean, your average yank wouldn't have given him a chance. Boxing afficiando's would have given him every chance, ask Sugar Ray Leonard where he putting his money. Why not, since when did outworking somebody NOT put you in an imesuarably better position to win the fight. Pavlik - JT II for instance, JT caught Pavlik with some ace counter shots, looked confident and like he had some power and snap in his punches for a change, but Pavlik outworked him all night long, got him blowing and tired, slowed him up......and, oh yes won a UD. I see the fight going very similar to that one apart from Hops not catchin Calz with as many couter rights. At the pace Calz fights, I predict Hops's unquestionably excellent defense will fall apart in the later rounds, hopefully Calz is not too worried about his hands to try and get Hops out of there. Of course then when he beats him all of this talk of Hopkins excellent record will be down the pan and of course they'll all be a bunch of bums and Calz wont have proved anything. :rolleyes:

A prime RJJ would have beaten Calzaghe soundly IMO, hell even the RJJ we see today would give Calzaghe problems. This fight better happen before Joe calls it quits.

but Hopkins is the best opponent Calzaghe will fight. hes not fighting in his backyard, 1st time in the usa, and has to move up in weight. if hopkins didnt get outpointed by jermaine taylor twice no one would even give calzaghe a chance. o yea im not trying to say calzaghe isnt good or the best at his division, but i cant see him beating hopkins by outworking him like many believe. I disagree, i still think Kessler will have been Joes biggest challenge. He was the young, hungry lion that was supposed replace Joe. Technically good, hard hitting, fast, strong as an ox, and Joe beat him. I don't see the location of the fight and the weight as an issue for Joe, most of the crowd will be rooting for him and what is 7 more pounds to him? Nothing really. The end result may be similar to the Kessler fight, but i don't think he will have to really dig deep again and i don't think he will get his chin tested.

It's very difficult to get tired when you only throw five punches per round. i knew that was coming!!!!

Joe Calzaghe would have beaten that green Roy Jones who beat Hopkins all those years ago. Prime for prime is another subject though. I think Calzaghe is the best fighter Hopkins has ever fought.

soundz honest to me! but if you ask JT, Tarver, DLH, or Winky if they felt like they were in the ring with an OLD fighter when they fought Hopkins, the answer would be NO! Joe will say the same thing! Bernard doesnt get tired and thatz what got him the win against Winky! Bernard was something like 16 years older than JT when they fought, so I guess that counts for nothing! Calz is OLD in boxing years, get it straight! Anybody still boxing past 35 is considered OLD in boxing! It's very difficult to get tired when you only throw five punches per round.

i agree.. the one thing against hopkins is his age.. i just don't think he can do it like he used to.. i think calzaghe will be 2 much "right now".. but u can never count hopkins out, i'm rooting 4 hopkins, i just think his time may be gone, but i've been wrong in my predictions b4 soundz honest to me! but if you ask JT, Tarver, DLH, or Winky if they felt like they were in the ring with an OLD fighter when they fought Hopkins, the answer would be NO! Joe will say the same thing! Bernard doesnt get tired and thatz what got him the win against Winky! Bernard was something like 16 years older than JT when they fought, so I guess that counts for nothing! Calz is OLD in boxing years, get it straight! Anybody still boxing past 35 is considered OLD in boxing!

Calzaghe isnt even the best opponent Hopkins has faced.... but Hopkins is the best opponent Calzaghe will fight. So who was the best that Hopkins faced? Roy Jones Jr? He fucking LOST that fight!

Doesn't there ever come a point where a fighter is just too old to do it anymore? Hopkins will always be a better fighter than Calz, but this fight is coming to late for him. IMO Hopkins is a freak though. His peak age was much later than most and while he is now certainly starting to get on, his age and fighting skills are on a relative level with other guys who would be in their early to mid thirties and starting to wind down. The funny thing is, I actually think they will be coming in in at a somewhat similar age peak, as funny or silly as that sounds. Hopkins is not fighting at his peak and five years ago he had a higher punch volume, but, he is still very skillful and capable of great things in their that his experience has taught him to bring in. Calzaghe on the other hand, since five years ago, has lost quite a lot of speed, power and while he still also has his ring savvy and great spoiling skills, it seems to me that his sharp combination punching has declined and his defensive head and upper body movement has declined. Nonetheless, I can't wait for this fight, and still think Hopkins has a huge chance at a major upset. If people think that age is the only factor that will come into play they're going to get a big shock come fight night. They must also remember that Hopkins simply isn't like most other guys and keeps so freakishly fit between fights that even though there is a big age difference, their actual fighting age might be very similar on fight night. Calzaghe is still 36 and for most fighters, apart from Hopkins, thats when they lose it! This may very well happen to Calzaghe, after all, he didn't look nearly as good against Kessler as he did just five years ago. I reckon Hopkins will rank about 2nd. We're talking about the last 12 months, right? I think he meant if Hopkins loses where will Calzaghe rank on the list of fighters that Hopkins has fought over his career? Hopkins is a great fighter and has fought many other great fighters, but, I still think most people are underrating Calzaghe. Some are overrating him while the other half are underrating him. It's quite an amusing scenario :lol1: I know it seems like a cliche but it really is a case of if he fought in the US of good ol' A early in his career and beat the American champs he did on American soil then he would be much more recognised as the skilled fighter he is, but of course, he didn't, so isn't! lol If he loses this fight, everything will go down the crapper for him as well as everyone will jump on the bandwagon to discredit any of his wins with the usual "All of his opponents were shit, overrated, old, bums, has-beens, never-has-beens, etc etc". I guess one day down the track, when most folks have gotten over caring where he is from and whatever other reasons for discrediting him, they will actually just go back and look at his work with an objective viewpoint and see how very damn good he was. Some of his fights were truly quite brilliant and I say this quite happily as someone who has never particularly cared for him as an actual fan but have simply enjoyed his fights as a good fighter. Nearly as much as Hopkins!

So when Joe beats him where will he rank in the list? I reckon Hopkins will rank about 2nd. We're talking about the last 12 months, right?

So when Joe beats him where will he rank in the list?

Doesn't there ever come a point where a fighter is just too old to do it anymore? Hopkins will always be a better fighter than Calz, but this fight is coming to late for him. IMO i agree.. the one thing against hopkins is his age.. i just don't think he can do it like he used to.. i think calzaghe will be 2 much "right now".. but u can never count hopkins out, i'm rooting 4 hopkins, i just think his time may be gone, but i've been wrong in my predictions b4