I keep seeing people say BHOB is gonna get beat down and lose because of Joes work rate or Bernard is old.
I really dont think Hopkins is done, he may lose the fight but it should be a good fight. BHOP may be older but hes crafty and somewhat slick and can box. I see it being a close fight.
Well the judges will surely favour Hopkins, so I don't know why he wouldn't. With one stoppage in his last EIGHT fights, I don't really see Bernard stopping a guy that hasn't lost in 17 years. But that's just me.
i think the judges will do to high volume punches
I repeat, this fight is going the distance. lol.
Calzaghe outworking Hopkins----------Totally Feasible almost inevitable and Probably My Pick.
Hopkins frustrating Calzaghe----------Totally Feasible.
Well the book I wrote two pages could have been summed up in this.
Good post!
I repeat, this fight is going the distance. lol.
Calzaghe outworking Hopkins----------Totally Feasible almost inevitable and Probably My Pick.
Hopkins frustrating Calzaghe----------Totally Feasible.
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yeah it would be flash ko. but that would give bhop the round. in the back of my mind bhop is going want to try to find a way to tko him cause he is a big underdog and he want to prove a point with this fight. he also don't want it to go the scorecard
Well the judges will surely favour Hopkins, so I don't know why he wouldn't. With one stoppage in his last EIGHT fights, I don't really see Bernard stopping a guy that hasn't lost in 17 years. But that's just me.
yeah it would be flash ko. but that would give bhop the round. in the back of my mind bhop is going want to try to find a way to tko him cause he is a big underdog and he want to prove a point with this fight. he also don't want it to go the scorecard
i agree with that but i can see joe touching the canvas due to hi bad balance
I can see that.
Hopkins has good power in both hands, but it is respect power, not KO power.
If Joe goes down, he likely gets up very quickly without being seriously hurt.
NO ONE is getting knocked out in this fight.
Neither has the power and both are too smart to get into a situation where they will be TKO'd.
i agree with that but i can see joe touching the canvas due to hi bad balance
I bet my house that Calzaghe doesn't stop Hopkins.....even if he had 3 hands.
i second that. everybody going to jump off joe bandwagon once he lose....kinda like p williams ....maybe i'm the only one still riding with him
I'm goin against the grain.
You gotta understand that Hopkins is the kinda fighter who hasn't eaten a donut in YEARS. You don't wanna fuck with that. He'll wait until the later rounds and unleash his vicious counter right on Calzaghe when he least expects it.
Calzaghe's been on his ass alot more than Hopkins has.
Is this true? Calzaghe has been down twice, against Mitchell and Salem. Hopkins has been down twice, both against Mercado. I see no reason to predict a knockout for Bernard here.
Calzaghe has a lot more power than he is given credit for and has the speed and timing to land flush shots on the button that Hopkins doesn't see, it's a strong possibility. If Calzaghe didn't have hand problems I'd be accepting bets on him to KO Hopkins inside 10.
I bet my house that Calzaghe doesn't stop Hopkins.....even if he had 3 hands.
Calzaghe is more than capable of stopping Hopkins, but he won't risk fighting him one handed if he sits down on his punches.
But Calzaghe is better versus orthodox fighters, is he not? 35-0 to 11-0. Make the logical choice.
This statement is more true of Joe than Bernard. Bernard has lost to Taylor and Roy Jones, both fighters who use speed to confuse and outwork opponents. Not only does Joe have very fast hands, he has never lost, and in doing so has shown he adapts better than Hopkins does. Calzaghe has fought dirty fighters before and won, Bernard has fought fast guys before and lost, that's the real difference here.
Calzaghe will be more than happy to go to war with Hopkins if that is what it takes to prove he is the real deal. If Hopkins makes it ugly and pisses Joe off, he gets stopped late, as Joe sits down a little more on each punch he throws and hurts Hopkins by accumulation. If Hopkins tries to counterpunch and doesn't make it dirty, he loses a wide decision. I don't care how good you are, you can't counterpunch a guy who has hit you five times before you even know where he is. Joe has demonstrated his lateral movement against faster fighters than B-hop, and they were hitting nothing but air, what makes you think Hopkins will have anymore success. One of the most impressive aspects of Calzaghe at the moment is the way he hits and moves, especially against Lacy. Hopkins has gone a fight to far, and will have pretty much no choice but to retire when Joe shows him how hard life can be at the top.
Not true.......Hopkins has a granite chin.
I believe this will go the distance, but Calzaghe will outwork Hopkins. He'll win this by 4-6 rounds in my opinion. As with Kessler, we will see a couple of big punches land on Joe, but his chin is good enough to take them.
I think Calzaghe will win comfortably.....but not without a few bumps in the road.....I'm sure once Hopkins realizes he has no answer for Joes speed and workarte he will start with the headbutts and roughhouse tactics that he is very crafty and good at......But when all is said and done I see Calzaghe winning by UD like 116-112 or possibly by DQ if Hopkins gets too unruley.
Wow! There are actually KO predictions? Are you serious? This will be an ugly fight. I think it will be a tough bout to score as well. Calzaghe is a workhorse, and is usually pretty accurate, but B-Hop just doesn't get hit clean that often. I see Hopkins starting slowly, much like the two Taylor fights, and getting too far behind on the cards. Calzaghe, I think, wins the fight because of the first half of the fight. It will be competitive, and it will be close. I don't think that Calzaghe has been in there with anyone as strong as Bernard. I worried about Hopkins making the jump to Light Heavyweight, but he bullied Tarver around. Joe is used to pushing guys around. That won't happen against B-Hop. Hopkins will use all of his defensive techniques, as usual. He'll clinch, wrestle, and lay all over Calzaghe. Joe's stamina is incredible, but he will be tired by the championship rounds. Then the Executioner will come on strong, but it will be too little, too late. Someone predicted 8 rds. to 4 Calzaghe. I think that's a pretty solid pick. I can even see Hopkins winning on one card, but I think Calzaghe wins 7 rds. to 5. I wouldn't be surprised to see a split decision along these lines: 115-113 (Calzaghe), 115-113 (Hopkins), 117-111 (Calzaghe). Although it will be an ugly fight, it will be very interesting. There's a lot of bias on this sight, and if anyone out there says either of these guys is not a great fighter, they're nuts.
Here is the reason that people think Hopkins will win:
Calzaghe isn't known for throwing short, straight, efficient punches. Hopkins is probably the best counterpuncher in the game, considering his offense is almost entirely based around it. Also, he has the best right hand counter in the game. The more Calzaghe throws, the more opportunities Hopkins has to land the counter right hand. Getting your ass countered repeatedly is a very good way to make your workrate disappear.
It is going to be on Joe to figure out what adjustments he needs to make to make his workrate effective and immune to the counter straight right hand. If he can do that, he will win the fight. If he doesn't, he is probably going to be in some trouble.
I pick Calzaghe because of his ability to adjust, and I pick him to win an extremely close decision.
This fight will be the most competitive of Calzaghe's career.
Now thatz was real talk!
only thing i disagree with is that Calz will make the necessary adjustments! I cant see him winning the thinkin game!
Bernard by KO
Bernards counter punching abilities is what will cap off joes work rate
Joes foot speed and movement, is what will make it hard for Bernard to catch him...
It will be close either way...
The thread ask do people think Hopkins will get blown out by Joe?? I don't know if some people started watching boxing with Hatton vs Mayweather but there is no precedent whatsoever that Hopkins can be blown out. Joe is a very good fighter but he knows he's in the fight of his life.
Theres a ridiculous post here that Hopkins gets stopped in 8th, lol. I'll gladly BOT this thread. Heres the thing, Jeff Lacy who is arguably Joe's biggest win did have some *****s in his armor exposed. Namely in the Omar Sheika fight and early in the Robin Reid fight. On the other hand there isn't a style of fighter that Hopkins hasn't faced from aggressive, tall, fast, smaller, southpaw, etc. He's adapted to them all..
Whats going to happen in this fight is whoever can adjust better will win. People "say" calazaghe adjust well. I've seen Calazaghe fight from the outside and he's pretty basic. Bernard while no where near not even in his prime the volume puncher Calazaghe is, he's a smart calculating puncher. I have no doubt that Hopkins will nullify Calazaghe's speed by coming between his shots with right hands hooks to the body. Some holding, etc.
This is going to be an ugly fight because calazaghe will keep coming forward. Hopkins knows southpaws damn near as good as he does conventional fighters. Footwork will decide this fight namely can Hopkins nullify Joe's ability to create angles which I think is excellent on Joe's behalf.
hopkins will use two ways to beat joe:
1) smother him try and reduce the effectiveness of his wokrate and flurries of punches
2) offensivley hopkins will see the straight right hand and his counter punching as the key
imo joe ca is capable of overcomingb both of these tactics - joe has great footwork - on the inside he will get away a few shots before hopkins gets anywhere near him.
joe has always been suspect to the straight right but hes got an incredible and extremly under rated chin and has only been dropped once. if hopkins decides counterpunching is the way to go then again he will fail, joe isnt afraid of gettin hit and isnt afraid of trading because he knows his speed means he can get off 4 shots while others only get off 2 - and he knows he can take those 2 punches.
calzaghe will win a unanimous desicion by 4/5 pnts.
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Jeff Lacy couldn't carry Hopkins jock. He barely beat Peter "2 pump chump" Manfredo. Oh he did win the made for TV contender though. ha
Lacy can't hold Hopkins' jock but in 2005, Hopkins was coming off 2 losses and looked old and shot while Lacy looked like the future of the SMW division.
It's a miracle that Hopkins is still fighting at the level he is and many people will realize this when he fights Calzaghe. Hopkins has no offensive output, his crafty defense and clinching tactics have kept him as a top fighter.
Either I am completely overrating Calzaghe or Hopkins has more in the tank than I think he does but I just don't see B-Hop winning.
I still remember those fights with Taylor, I also remember how he threw like 20 punches a round against Tarver and Wright. If Joe lets him get away with that, shame on him.