damn looks as if 10 years on boxingscene is still getting carried away when an undefeated fighter looks good against a bum....
Also known as the Golovkin business model.
I think hed beat Quintana ?!?! you can kill me for sayin it... but... I do, along with Mayorga and Collazo.... Id like to see Clottey - Berto
Hey he wasnt even wrong about this
Not the greatest technical savant... but that dudes EXPLOSIVE
I was quite impressed with his performance, even if he he was fighting fodder. His punch variety was what stood out to me. He threw everything at Trabant. Doubled the left hook, straight right lead, jab/cross under, tripled the jab, etc. The power wasn't awe-inspiring and his technique is lacking like you said, but yeah he can explode with the quickness.
Berto will have a lot of problems, based on how he looked in this fight, with someone who fights behind a good, fast jab. Trabant was landing it and Berto wasn't doing a great job of throwing over the punch, as it was relatively weak. I'd like to see how Berto deals with a guy like Collazo.
I already said Berto would get this guy out by the 6th round, He didnt prove nothing tonight than him just staying active and thats a good thing, More like Jesus chavez jnr he would be expose if he keep fighting sub-standard opponent.
I don't think Berto can beat a guy who throws when he throws. His whole "game" is built around him being able to unload on you. Fighters like Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Floyd, Cintron, Quintana, etc. are able to throw back while the other fighter is punching at them. As soon as Berto fights one of these guys he'll be exposed.
He lowers his hands when he punches and leaves his chin WIDE open. He'll be very good against lesser opponents but will get hit too much against fighters that are not afraid of him (look at how much he got hit by Estrada!)
we learned nothing tonight about Berto. Trabant was a joke. this was a handpick of all handpicks. Berto has offense but when a pressure fighter like Margarito or Cotto get on him he will look totally different. trabant was a heavy bag tongiht, no more no less.
co-signed. I don't like the way he stares down the other fighter immediately after each round like he's some big shit. Especially when we all know he is in with pure stiffs.
He'll get his ass kicked soon and he'll be exposed and done, I promise....
Berto Gets Hit Too Clean!
Did anyone else notice that when another fighter wants to hit Berto, its usually not a problem? His last few fights, Berto is fighting guys that are just turtling and not offering up much of an offense. His first real test will be against anyone who is a puncher. Then we will se what he's really made of.
I know that the guy's careerer is still young but come on man most of his opponents have been bums and you know that. Let him fight a guy who actually gonna fight back and then make a comment. His performance against this guy does not warrant any praise it's like saying a guy is good because of the way he hit the punching bag. The punching bag don't hit back, just like his opponent tonight!
Estrada was very good... and who the hell said I said Berto was the best? I Can praise him all I want... hes 24 years old and has started his professional career beautifully... 21-0 18kos... i can praise him all I want too... Im not being delussional about his abilities.. I didnt say he'd beat everyone... But I know what I see, and I like it.
ive been watching berto since he was 10-0
I know that the guy's careerer is still young but come on man most of his opponents have been bums and you know that. Let him fight a guy who actually gonna fight back and then make a comment. His performance against this guy does not warrant any praise it's like saying a guy is good because of the way he hit the punching bag. The punching bag don't hit back, just like his opponent tonight!
How could you say he is a beast based off tonights performance. He was fighting a guy you could consider walking dead. He was not impressive to me at all tonight. His opponent was not doing shit so he does not warrant high praise.
If he steps up his competition maybe. JCC JR has had better opponents and tonight was proof of that.
It amazes me that some of you are so quick to jump on some guys nuts. His opponent was worthless think about that before you make these outrages comments.
ive been watching berto since he was 10-0
Not the greatest technical savant... but that dudes EXPLOSIVE
How could you say he is a beast based off tonights performance. He was fighting a guy you could consider walking dead. He was not impressive to me at all tonight. His opponent was not doing shit so he does not warrant high praise.
If he steps up his competition maybe. JCC JR has had better opponents and tonight was proof of that.
It amazes me that some of you are so quick to jump on some guys nuts. His opponent was worthless think about that before you make these outrages comments.
PRboxing said it. Berto was in with a guy made for him, and he was for a reason. He has glaring defensive weaknesses, that will become evident as soon as he's in with better fighters. He's a phenom offensively though, there's no doubt about that.
I think Collazo would find himself in over his head
I don't know. I think Collazo is a pretty tough guy and he has good hand speed and counter-punching skills. Also, this may sound crazy to some, but I'm not convinced that Berto's punching power is that great. He's got those shortass arms and throws mostly close quarters hooks from what I've seen. People should realize that he has fought absolutely nobody thus far. He's in a tough division, and I suspect that when he steps up to better competition his KO rate will drop off significantly. Don't get me wrong. I think Berto is a great prospect. I just don't think he's proven enough at this point to think that he will beat the better guys in the division yet.
berto v. collazo would be a great match up for boxing. two top 10 guys (in my opinon at least) going at it. they both have a good am background. collazo is a former champ... let's make it happen.
That fight would make sense. Collazo is someone that will fight and bring troubles for Berto. The two fighters that I would like to see Berto fight next would be Collazo or Quintana.
berto v. collazo would be a great match up for boxing. two top 10 guys (in my opinon at least) going at it. they both have a good am background. collazo is a former champ... let's make it happen.
I think Berto beats Judah, Williams, Collazo and probably Quintana based on styles. I think he loses to Margarito, Clottey and Cotto. I still think Berto is a little chinny so he might lose to Kermit but maybe I am completely wrong about his chin.
I think Cotto's toughest fight in the division is against Clottey that is if Mayweather stays retired.
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