A few months back atfter Cotto beat Mosley a lot of people thought he could beat Mayweather with his constant pressure and power but since December 8th no one seems to think so any more?
Mayweather knows his win over Hatton has really silenced his criticts and most experts now recognise that Cotto can't beat him so why is there such a demand for this fight? Sure, I'd love to see them fight but then it will just be Paul Williams after that. "What Ifs" really get on my nerves.
What you can see here (as in many of the "hate mayweather" threads) is the typical, now getting old "Mayweather must fight till he loses" mentality. He is the best and the only way he should lose is if father time cathes up with him, he gets old. Thus the only way to his haters to get what they want is if Mayweather fights until his body can't endure no more. Cotto fans know it, Williams' fans know it, Margarito fans know it.
Cotto would add nothing to Mayweather's legacy. As of now, Mayweather would still beat Cotto but time is friends of Cotto in this occasion. But on the other hand there are new exciting fighters BEHIND Cotto in years, already calling Cotto out. Williams for instance. Cotto can run but can't hide and because he's very limited for an elite fighter he will rather sooner than later taste defeat. Chances are he will sooner than Mayweather.
So Cotto really wouldn't add anything to Mayweather's legacy?
Usually beating a P4P champion is a pretty damn good win.
I'd say that fighting a couple of the top guys around him, who are secure at the weight class and defeating them would likely propel him into the top 10 P4P fighters of all time. No matter what he does in his career now, there's no way that he'll ever not be remembered as being one of the top 20 at this moment in time.
What you can see here (as in many of the "hate mayweather" threads) is the typical, now getting old "Mayweather must fight till he loses" mentality. He is the best and the only way he should lose is if father time cathes up with him, he gets old. Thus the only way to his haters to get what they want is if Mayweather fights until his body can't endure no more. Cotto fans know it, Williams' fans know it, Margarito fans know it.
Cotto would add nothing to Mayweather's legacy. As of now, Mayweather would still beat Cotto but time is friends of Cotto in this occasion. But on the other hand there are new exciting fighters BEHIND Cotto in years, already calling Cotto out. Williams for instance. Cotto can run but can't hide and because he's very limited for an elite fighter he will rather sooner than later taste defeat. Chances are he will sooner than Mayweather.
what does a win over a smaller one dimensional hatton have to do with cotto's odds, who is a naturally bigger stronger and more skilled fighter.
I believe Cotto can beat Mayweather and many people here do as well, you must be hiding under a rock or so narrow minded you only hear what you want to hear.
You you even listen to yourself? A few months ago Hatton was nothing of that. Suddenly, because you feel the need to lessen Mayweather's victory (which was hard btw) Hatton is one dimensional. Pff you make me sick.
Cotto is alot less skilled than Hatton and only an inch taller. Also Cotto has fought all his career as a Junior WW.
Oh btw, guess what? Mayweather is a natural LIGHTWEIGHT having started at 130!! These kinds of arguments fizzle.
if DLH can't beat mayweather than Cotto sure as hell can't beat mayweather. Have you ever seen Cotto chase down a speedy defensive boxer like Mayweather, I don't think so. DLH had a picture perfect performance against mayorga and all of a sudden he looked shakey(although he gave may his toughest match to date) against mayweather. This is cuz mayweather is a great fighter and will make good boxers look amateur in the ring. Just like Roy Jones on Trinidad. Everyone thinks Trinidad is finished and Roy took advantage and all that other crap, but wait till you see trini vs forrest, or trini vs Taylor, I garuntee that he will look completely different than in the roy fight.
He MUST fight Cotto to be remembered as an all time great? Lets be serious, Cotto is a good fighter, perhaps even great, but Floyd has pretty much dominated the sport of boxing for nearly 10 years. He's gonna be remembered as one of the best by anyone with more than a dozen brain cells. Now, if you want to say that a Cotto fight would extend his legacy a little bit more then I would agree.
I'd say that fighting a couple of the top guys around him, who are secure at the weight class and defeating them would likely propel him into the top 10 P4P fighters of all time. No matter what he does in his career now, there's no way that he'll ever not be remembered as being one of the top 20 at this moment in time.
Yeah but Cotto hits alot harder, and is a better boxer and ring general than hatton will ever be. And not to break your heart but hatton is the new gatti in the sense that he doesnt take good enough care of his body to fight effieciently at 140 but is no way a challenge to any top 10 ww at 147.
grab your box of tissues buddy boy.
Very true.
Not quite as confident in your statement about Hatton = Gatti though.
Diminish his win over Hatton all you want but most of you don't realise although Hatton is smaller than Cotto, he is faster and has better footwork. Cotto will be hit all night.
Yeah but Cotto hits alot harder, and is a better boxer and ring general than hatton will ever be. And not to break your heart but hatton is the new gatti in the sense that he doesnt take good enough care of his body to fight effieciently at 140 but is no way a challenge to any top 10 ww at 147.
grab your box of tissues buddy boy.
To the thread starter:
People have stopped with the Cotto's pressure beats Floyd shit after the Mosley fight, because he didn't pressure Mosley to a UD. He jabbed and fought his way to a decision.
Cotto fights in a different way than Hatton completely, so that is why you don't hear much about Cotto's pressure at the moment, because he really didn't use it so much in his last fight.
i think more than half of the forum agrees cotto could/will beat mayweather everybody wants this fight made the polls of hbo 63 % want floy-cotto for 08 mayweather is to scared to lose that 0 too scared that's why he don't give a fuck about his legacy.
I'm not sure of the exact percentage, but a LARGE majority of people polled thought Oscar would beat Floyd also. People always get hyped up over the next fighter.
A few months back atfter Cotto beat Mosley a lot of people thought he could beat Mayweather with his constant pressure and power but since December 8th no one seems to think so any more?
Mayweather knows his win over Hatton has really silenced his criticts and most experts now recognise that Cotto can't beat him so why is there such a demand for this fight? Sure, I'd love to see them fight but then it will just be Paul Williams after that. "What Ifs" really get on my nerves.
hatton is garbage him and cotto are not in the same league cotto is a better boxer than hatton and cotto and hatton fight nothing alike.
i think more than half of the forum agrees cotto could/will beat mayweather everybody wants this fight made the polls of hbo 63 % want floy-cotto for 08 mayweather is to scared to lose that 0 too scared that's why he don't give a fuck about his legacy.
Mayweather is not scared of Cotto, he just wan't Cotto to become a bigger market so the fight wil make as much money as it can.
i think more than half of the forum agrees cotto could/will beat mayweather everybody wants this fight made the polls of hbo 63 % want floy-cotto for 08 mayweather is to scared to lose that 0 too scared that's why he don't give a fuck about his legacy.
GET IT THRU UR HEAD FLOYD HAND PICKS OPPONENTS AND THE WHOLE BOXING COMMUNITY AGREES THAT HE MUST FIGHT COTTO OR HE WONT BE REMEMBERED AS AN ALL TIME GREAT.
WTF!?! Are you serious? The WHOLE boxing community agrees on this???
Mayweather would have been remembered as an all-time great if he'd never even gone up to Welterweight. The fact that he has and is fighting pretty good competition, and yes Judah, Baldomir, DLH, Hatton is pretty good competition, is just improving his standing.
Cotto is the best fight out there for him and it's a fight that all boxing fans want /demand to see, but hyperbole doesn't serve your point well. Mayweather's greatness is beyond question at this point. It's the degree of greatness that remains in doubt. A win over a prime and undefeated Cotto will put him a lot closer to where he believes he ranks all time. But he's done more than enough thus far to put himself in the ranks of all-time great.
YES BUT HE HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST FLOYD. COTTO HAS IT. HATTON IS GOOD AT 140 GET IT THRU UR HEAD FLOYD HAND PICKS OPPONENTS AND THE WHOLE BOXING COMMUNITY AGREES THAT HE MUST FIGHT COTTO OR HE WONT BE REMEMBERED AS AN ALL TIME GREAT.
He MUST fight Cotto to be remembered as an all time great? Lets be serious, Cotto is a good fighter, perhaps even great, but Floyd has pretty much dominated the sport of boxing for nearly 10 years. He's gonna be remembered as one of the best by anyone with more than a dozen brain cells. Now, if you want to say that a Cotto fight would extend his legacy a little bit more then I would agree.
Diminish his win over Hatton all you want but most of you don't realise although Hatton is smaller than Cotto, he is faster and has better footwork. Cotto will be hit all night.
YES BUT HE HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST FLOYD. COTTO HAS IT. HATTON IS GOOD AT 140 GET IT THRU UR HEAD FLOYD HAND PICKS OPPONENTS AND THE WHOLE BOXING COMMUNITY AGREES THAT HE MUST FIGHT COTTO OR HE WONT BE REMEMBERED AS AN ALL TIME GREAT.
Cotto has proven he can compete at the level that mayweather operates and he is the closest in terms of giving Mayweather problems at 147, Even though i dont see him winning against Mayweather anything can happen in boxing, I just hope this fight Happens between now and 2009.
Personally Paul williams with another 2 or 3 fights beat Mayweather but he really needs more experience to go up against a smart fighter like PBF.
Its tiresome to hear that people 'cant' beat other people. We're not talking ranking differences of 500 places. You're not talking about a club fighter against the champion of the world. Cotto COULD beat Mayweather. Cotto is one of the fighters out there within the weight division who would have the best chances of beating Mayweather. However, Floyd would quite rightly be the favourite in the fight.
Its as simple as that.
Diminish his win over Hatton all you want but most of you don't realise although Hatton is smaller than Cotto, he is faster and has better footwork. Cotto will be hit all night.
:haha: dude, lay off the crack pipe. his foot work might be a bit better but no way is he faster, cotto also has a better defense then Hatton and doesn't just lunge in head first with his arms to his waist trying to clinch.
Of course I think the fight would be very close and like someone else said I wouldn't bet my house on it (even though I wouldn't bet my house on anything)
but Cotto has a better chance then De La Hoya or Hatton did or anyone else Floyd has ever fought.