Joe Louis v RJJ at Heavyweight

Roy Jones is my favorite active fighter. And an all time great. Joe Louis is one of my all time favorite fighters and an all time great. Wiser men than me have said "A great big man beats a great little man." With a gun to my head, I would pick Joe Louis, mostly out of respect for him. BUT, in the back of my mind, I would be wondering....If little, skinny Billy Conn can outbox Joe for as long as he did before being splattered, what would RJ have done?And something like that is enough for me to go against the pack and go with Jones, quite comfortably as well.

At his peak around 200 lbs. The difference is that he didn't need to be juiced up like RJ was. Well, than we have to take in account that RJJ comes in juiced, which gives him a big advantage in this fight :)

How heavy was Louis in his days? At his peak around 200 lbs. The difference is that he didn't need to be juiced up like RJ was.

How heavy was Louis in his days?

Joe Louis v RJJ at Heavyweight ,RJ would have kicked his arse into next week this would actually be quite embarrassing to watch Louis wouldnt have landed a glove on RJJ yet he would have been peppered with Counters with speed & power Louis to slow not enough movement for RJJ lmao. youve got to be kidding me right? louis would have literally murdered him!

jones, by KO Louis was way to slow and he was susceptible to knockdowns because of his poor defense. Roy Jones was susceptible to Knockouts because of his poor chin. Louis Handspeed was immense he could pressure Jones like he has never been before. A punch that Louis could generate would hurt Jones through the gloves.

jones, by KO Louis was way to slow and he was susceptible to knockdowns because of his poor defense.

I'm picking Joe Louis. If Roy Jones was at his peak and weighed in the high 180's or low 190's, this would be BY FAR Joe's hardest fight to win. Styles make fights, and Louis was flustered by clever boxers. RJ is more disciplined than to outbox him for 11 rounds and then go for broke in search of a KO. But I'm still picking Louis. Fast hands, great finsher and he's not revered as a pound for pound great for nothing.

, and this was borne out when he'd lost a step and was outboxed by Antonio Tarver and outboxed by Glen Johnson. u just made youself the biggest idiot on Boxingscene right there LMFAO , If u think Glen Johnson beat RJJ by out Boxing him then u aint seen the fight or u just aint got a clue about Boxing after this outlandish post i think i am justified to diregard all your future posts :smashfrea You think that Roy Jones would beat Joe Louis so I win.

Joe Louis handspeed was alot faster than most realise. His one punch speed was proberbly faster that Ali's not his jab his power punches. He sat down on his jab which is underated. Roy Jones would be caught jumping in with a big Left hook from an odd angle which only contributes to Louis power and would KO jones. In his prime, his short punches were incredibly fast, sharp, and powerful. I wonder if people are watching the past prime version of Louis, post the War.

Joe Louis handspeed was alot faster than most realise. His one punch speed was proberbly faster that Ali's not his jab his power punches. He sat down on his jab which is underated. Roy Jones would be caught jumping in with a big Left hook from an odd angle which only contributes to Louis power and would KO jones.

Roy I still think the weight loss (which was muscle, not fat), at his age, an how fast he did it the way he did it, destroyed him. He was like a ghost afterwards. Funny thing is, it happened to Tarver when he did it a similar way and at 35+

jones gets ko'd

If Max Schmelling could stop a 27-0, 22 year old Joe Louis, then anything is possible. Plus Joe was around 200 at his best, a 194 lb Jones would be competitive. Also, Jones seemed invincible till he was 35 and finally stopped, his speed till then was amazing and allowed him to avoid huge shots. In the end though, Joe was a natural (if rel small) heavyweight, and one of the greatest ever, so you would have to give him the edge. I like Jones in a heads up against any other SM and LHW in history though.

I wonder if we change this to Chris Byrd vs. Louis, would this change anybody's mind?

Here are some HLs from the Conn fight that people were talking about And, Bert Sugar's Conn vs. Louis (color)

, and this was borne out when he'd lost a step and was outboxed by Antonio Tarver and outboxed by Glen Johnson. u just made youself the biggest idiot on Boxingscene right there LMFAO , If u think Glen Johnson beat RJJ by out Boxing him then u aint seen the fight or u just aint got a clue about Boxing after this outlandish post i think i am justified to diregard all your future posts :smashfrea

For a start I had Hatton pegged as the underdog from the very moment the fight was signed, I was rooting for him and I was picking him to win as the ********. I never considered Hatton to be a better fighter than Mayweather, and I repeatedly said that Hatton would lose nine times out of ten. I was wrong in that I thought he had Mayweather's number for ONE FIGHT but we're all wrong at some point or another. Unless we only ever pick the favourite, but where's the fun in that? So now you've compared Ricky Hatton to Joe Louis, how stupid must you feel? In a 20ft square ring Louis will get to Jones, and Louis was one of those rare heavyweights who went to the body hard and often. Jones' athleticism would only get him so far and sooner or later he would have to face up to the Brown Bomber's massive power and not inconsiderable skill. Louis goes to the body and then to the head and knocks Jones silly. Roy Jones Junior would find his prime leaving him very quickly once Louis started to land. Joe had one-punch power that Roy never did, and had far better boxing fundamentals. You are making the mistake of confusing flashiness with skill, and Joe was a skilled fighter. You think that Jones would beat Louis? Do you think that Jones could have beaten, for example, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Joe Frazier etc? Because Joe Louis is the kind of fighter that is mentioned along with the names I have just given. Roy Jones Junior at heavyweight is not. Oh and it's well worth pointing out that once Jones lost a second of speed he was proven to be extremely chinny. Imagine a fighter who can jab as hard as Tarver can punch? You think that Joe wouldn't land a single jab? _____________________________________________________________ So now you've compared Ricky Hatton to Joe Louis, how stupid must you feel? Sorry i missed the bit where i compared him to Joe Louis i questioned your poor judgement ,u sound like the idiot trying to make things up that i aint said i dont think joe Louis would have beaten Tyson ,Foreman,Lewis ,Holyfield NO & just because some dinosaur thinks Joe Louis should be mentioned above those names that dont make it right ,everybody has there own criteria IMO Ali could have beaten any of the modern greats though because he had a fluid style he could jab on the move throw 1 2 counters on the move he could jab effcetively & he was fast had a great chin & was brave as hell

Joe Louis

point im making is im sure its safe to say he is more technically sound than Joe Louis ,throwing punches accuratley & correctly is good technique your style is a different story in my book RJJ like Ali is one of those guys who could do everything wrong because he was quicker than everyone he fought. Junior's technique was always very sloppy, he was never a good technical boxer, and this was borne out when he'd lost a step and was outboxed by Antonio Tarver and outboxed by Glen Johnson. As soon as his physical advantages left him he was pretty much knockout fodder. Add to that he never fought a seriously skilled and powerful fighter, especially not a heavyweight, at any point in his career. Roy Jones Junior had bad technique but enough athleticism to overcome it. Joe had great technique and he earned his great technique the hard way with his knockout loss to Schmeling. Joe would have been able to compete with the best heavyweights of any era. Roy would have been able to compete with the best light heavies. Joe still wins.